Which ONE Crime Would You Like The True Answer To?

[Markxxx]

OK we all know that Lizzie Borden took an ax and gave her father 40 whacks and when she saw what she could do, she gave her mother 42. But she was found "not guilty," so did she? (OK the rhyme is totally screwed up from the facts, but...)

We all know OJ is guilty or do we?

And we all know that Lindbergh Baby was kidnapped by Bruno Richard Hauptmann or do we?

Just like we know DB Cooper died after parachuting out of the plane?

If you could pick one crime and go back in time and tape it so there would be no doubt whatsoever, which one would you pick to witness and tape?

I would also include things like the Black Dhalia, which was never solved

But for the purposes of this thread it has to be a crime, not like a disappearance, like Jimmy Hoffa. We would assume some crime was involved but no one can be 100%.

[Markxxx]

For me I'd definately like to know what REALLY happened in the Lizzie Borden case

[Darth Sensitive]

JFK assassination.

Just to shut them all up.

[Shakester]

I'd like the identity of Jack the Ripper. Though I'm fairly sure that if his name was finally revealed, we'd all say "Who?"

Certainly none of the "case closed" claims has stood up to investigation, particularly the various famous names that have been accused.

[Arnold Winkelried]

The case of Olof Palme - the head of state of a Western European country (Sweden), in time of peace, assassinated by someone who made a clean getaway, in the second half of the twentieth century ( 28 February 1986 ).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Palme_assassination

[ralph124c]

I would really like to know how OJ murdered those two people - Iam certain that he did not act alone.

[panache45]

The murder of JonBenet Ramsey.

[panache45]

Originally Posted by ralph124c

I would really like to know how OJ murdered those two people - Iam certain that he did not act alone.

But isn't OJ himself out there, trying to find the real killer?

[MPB in Salt Lake]

I would like to know what (if any) role Amanda Knox actually played in her roomates' death.

IF she was indeed involved, she is truly evil; both for the murder of Meridith Kercher and for convincing her parents that she is an innocent victim of circumstance, and letting them spend over a million dollars defending her.............

[Kamino Neko]

Black Dahlia...some of the theories are so twisted*, I'd really like to know what really happened...

I'm not sure whether I'd be more disappointed if the real answer was as twisted as the theories, or simple and straightforward.

* I'm thinking particularly of Steve Hodel's...er...'evidence', for want of a better word, that his father did it.

[thirdname]

I'm the first to say JFK?

[myskepticsight]

Originally Posted by thirdname

I'm the first to say JFK?

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[robardin]

The true fate of the crew of the Mary Celeste?

[KneadToKnow]

I have just enough conspiracy nuttiness in me to want to know, without doubt, what happened with the JFK assassination.

[Pray for peace]

The West Memphis child murders (I believe the WM3 were wrongly convicted).

[Freudian Slit]

JonBenet Ramsey. I know that makes me sound pervy but I got really interested in it a while ago and it's such a bizarre case. Her family was ruled out but the way it was done, it looked so much like an inside case...

ETA: I'm not the only one. I don't feel so skeevy.

[Pray for peace]

If I can have a second choice, I would say the murders of the Rafay family - probably another wrongful conviction.

[MPB in Salt Lake]

Originally Posted by Sidney Evgeni Jordan

If I can have a second choice, I would say the murders of the Rafay family - probably another wrongful conviction.

When I watched the 48 Hours episode (I think it was a 2 hour special) about the case, there was not much doubt in my mind that those two were absolutely guilty...........

I dont want to spend hours pouring over a website, but do you have something fairly concise that I could read that casts doubt on their guilt?

I promise I would read it with an open mind.

[Mahaloth]

Yes, I guess the JFK would be nice just to show everyone it was Oswald alone.

However, learning 100% who the Zodiac killer was would be nice. I'm sure he's dead, though.

[Larry Borgia]

Originally Posted by Sidney Evgeni Jordan

The West Memphis child murders (I believe the WM3 were wrongly convicted).

Gets my vote as well. The case against the WM3 was lousy. I can't say for sure they didn't do it, (though I don't think they did), but there is too much doubt to send those boys to jail.

[John DiFool]

The RFK assassination seems to have more holes in it (likely because of the chaotic situation in that room, but I'm still not sure).

[Pray for peace]

Originally Posted by MPB in Salt Lake

When I watched the 48 Hours episode (I think it was a 2 hour special) about the case, there was not much doubt in my mind that those two were absolutely guilty...........

I dont want to spend hours pouring over a website, but do you have something fairly concise that I could read that casts doubt on their guilt?

I promise I would read it with an open mind.

I'm definitely not an expert on the case (nor am I fully convinced of their innocence). The Burns and Rafay appeal campaign website isn't particularly well organized, but IIRC
1. There was no physical evidence connecting them to the murder scene. I believe that hair of the defendants was found in the bathroom with some of the victims' blood, but both defendants were living with the Rafays and using that bathroom before the murder happened. DNA was collected at the scene that does not match the victims nor the two convicted.
2. Their "confessions" were coerced in a scam in which the RCMP pretended to be members of the mafia who were threatening them. Here's a page that provides evidence that the confessions were false.

[Dallas Jones]

Originally Posted by KneadToKnow

I have just enough conspiracy nuttiness in me to want to know, without doubt, what happened with the JFK assassination.

Marilyn Monroe shot JFK from behind the fence on the grassy knoll. Bobby Kennedy had her killed, and RFK was then 'cleaned up' by a rouge reverend follower of Martin Luther King.

I could go on...this series of attempts at the lives of major US figures was put to rest when Jimmy Carter killed the Illuminati Attack Rabbit, and sunk their hopes for wolrd dominion to the bottom of a Georgia creek.

It's all very clear when you chart it out.

[blondebear]

I'd like to know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa.

[Harriet the Spry]

Another vote for JonBenet Ramsey.

[dragonlady]

Originally Posted by panache45

But isn't OJ himself out there, trying to find the real killer?

Nope, he's in prison in Nevada on other charges.

[Clothahump]

There are so many.......

I guess I have to say that I really want to know who Jack the Ripper was.

[elfkin477]

Originally Posted by Sidney Evgeni Jordan

The West Memphis child murders (I believe the WM3 were wrongly convicted).

You got mine too. I also think that they were wrongly convicted, but it would be nice to know if my faith in their innocence is foolish or not.

[RealityChuck]

Many of these would be interesting, but I'd love to find out the culprit in the Crime of the Century -- the Hall-Mills Case.

[Cunctator]

The disappearance of the Beaumont children.

[Projammer]

Originally Posted by ghardester

Marilyn Monroe shot JFK from behind the fence on the grassy knoll. Bobby Kennedy had her killed, and RFK was then 'cleaned up' by a rouge reverend follower of Martin Luther King.

You mean a cardinal? That's a bit extreme for excommunication, don't you think?

eta: On topic. I think I'd go with the Memphis child murders as well.

[lost4life]

It's personal, but the mystery of Margaret Fox. She was an acquaintance of mine.

[F. U. Shakespeare]

William Herbert Wallace, the granddaddy of all unsolved murder cases (although I have read the claim that the police overlooked a well-connected suspect).

Already mentioned, but the Zodiac killer, the Tylenol killer and the Mary Celeste are three cases that always struck me as 'organically' unsolved, as opposed to cases made more mysterious by police bungling, high visibility/paranoid obsessives (JonBenet/JFK) or well-heeled, sociopathic perps (OJ/Lizzy Borden).

I'll give the Moonlight Murderer of Texarkana an 'honorable' mention, for additional creepiness.

And, a few extra points for confirmed sightings: people actually laid eyes on Zodiac and the Moonlight Murderer, but they were never caught.

[PandaBear77]

JonBenet Ramsey, so that worthless mother of hers will finally be exposed for the murderer she was before she kicked off and her POS father will finally be put to shame for covering it all up.

Not that I, um ... ya know. Have a strong opinion on the subject ...

[HubZilla]

Aren't the Anthrax envelope cases still unsolved, too?

[Earl Snake-Hips Tucker]

Wally's "accident."

[Shagnasty]

Originally Posted by Shakester

I'd like the identity of Jack the Ripper. Though I'm fairly sure that if his name was finally revealed, we'd all say "Who?"

I don't understand why Jack the Ripper is so famous. Someone killed some fairly small number of prostitutes? Who would have ever imagined such a thing could happen?

There are many, many more serial killers than have been more grisly than that and even some much worse before him that aren't nearly as famous and it continues to this day. I am not sure why there is such fascination with those particular killings as opposed to so many others.

I would like to know about the JonBenet Ramsey case as well. The whole thing is incredibly odd even though her mother is dead now so we may never find out. I think it was probably some other sexual predator but I have no idea how the little girl ended up in the basement without anyone in the house knowing. Something similar happened with the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping though even though she didn't die so it is possible.

[Freudian Slit]

Originally Posted by PandaBear77

JonBenet Ramsey, so that worthless mother of hers will finally be exposed for the murderer she was before she kicked off and her POS father will finally be put to shame for covering it all up.

Not that I, um ... ya know. Have a strong opinion on the subject ...

I thought the DNA evidence showed that it was an unrelated white male who has yet to be identified.

[olivesmarch4th]

I came in here to say Lizzy Borden. Guess I'm not alone.

[MPB in Salt Lake]

[quote=Shagnasty;11968830]I don't understand why Jack the Ripper is so famous. Someone killed some fairly small number of prostitutes? Who would have ever imagined such a thing could happen?

There are many, many more serial killers than have been more grisly than that and even some much worse before him that aren't nearly as famous and it continues to this day. I am not sure why there is such fascination with those particular killings as opposed to so many others.QUOTE]

I think the letters the Ripper wrote (From Hell, sir...) are a big part of the fascination, and I think the Zodiac Killer letters are similar, taunting the public to catch them............

[Shmendrik]

Geli Raubal

[dhkendall]

Nobody, not a soul yet, has said 9/11? Not one?

OK, we're all sane people and we pretty much knew how it went down (although if you spread the tentacles out far enough, you'll get into the juicy questions, ie "How much did Bush *really* know?"), and this board is relatively free of "Truthers", but they are out there, surely we can't have had the good fortune of banning all of them?

FWIW, I don't really care, I'll happily swallow the Kool-Aid on this, even go as far as to agree with the MSM on how much Bush knew. Really, I don't care. But I know plenty do, which is why I'm surprised it wasn't brought up.

My personal inquiries were all covered in the OP. Including my first thought, which was shot down in the final paragraph.

[Little Nemo]

If this were a real offer, I'd have to pick some recent unsolved murder in the hope of bringing a criminal to justice. But for purely theoretical knowledge, I'd go with Jack the Ripper.

[Shakester]

Originally Posted by Shagnasty

I don't understand why Jack the Ripper is so famous. Someone killed some fairly small number of prostitutes? Who would have ever imagined such a thing could happen?

There are many, many more serial killers than have been more grisly than that and even some much worse before him that aren't nearly as famous and it continues to this day. I am not sure why there is such fascination with those particular killings as opposed to so many others.

It's not a competition. The killer with the highest bodycount isn't the most interesting case.

The Ripper murders are interesting because they happened at a fascinating time and place in history and they made a large impact. In many ways, that particular crime was the beginning of modern criminology. It drew attention to the conditions of the London poor, and it undoubtedly helped to push through reforms in that society which reverberated through the entire British Empire for decades.

[Shakester]

In case anyone is interested, the motherlode of Jack the Ripper information is here:
http://www.casebook.org/

Warning: if you're interested in the case and you haven't seen this site, you're going to be pretty busy for quite a while.

[Cicero]

Simply because it is local, the Claremont Killings.

[Two Many Cats]

The Grimes Sisters Murders

This isn't famous beyond Chicago, but since the North Side's long unsolved Peterson/Schuessler Murders were fairly recently resolved, it'd be nice to see the big unsolved murder case from the South Side put to rest as well.

[tumbleddown]

I'd go purely personal. A friend of mine was mugged and murdered a few years ago, right in front of his own home. Killed for $20 and a cheap watch. I'd like to know who did it and why they had to kill him so pointlessly.

[tr0psn4j]

I'd like to know who stole the cookies from the cookie jar!

[Maiira]

JonBenet Ramsey, for sure.

And for a more local case, the Jacob Wetterling disappearance.

Yeah, that's more than one. You wanna make somethin' of it?