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Old 01-24-2010, 05:11 PM
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Vicious Rumors (and misinformation)

So, Brad and Angelina are NOT splitting, yet the notion spread through the internet with the speed of lightning. That one wasn't really a vicious rumor, just a stupid and misinformed one (and I'm very disappointed at Roger Ebert for Twittering it, which spread the rumor far and wide). Can anyone think of other rumors that actually hurt people, or at least their careers?

Fatty Arbuckle was innocent of murder, but his career was ruined. Lizzy Borden was acquitted, but to this day everyone thinks she took an ax to her parents. I'm not sure those count as vicious rumors, just misinformation.

What are some vicious rumors that I'm thinking of but can't think of?

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Old 01-24-2010, 05:14 PM
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Richard Gere and the gerbil?
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:15 PM
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:17 PM
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I don't know anything about Lizzy Borden, but looking at OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson I'd have to say that winning in court doesn't mean that the whole thing was based on rumors and misinformation.

Quite certainly OJ's troubles ruined his career, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it was likely undeserved.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:06 PM
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Well, one of the key pieces of evidence that acquitted Lizzy Borden -- that if she had killed her parents, she would have been splattered with blood -- has been shown to be based upon false assumptions (it depends on where she was standing). People following the case seriously now do think that she's by far the most likely culprit.

Richard Jewell was falsely reported as being a suspect in the Centennial Park bombing in Atlanta. He suffered badly and was the target of lawsuits until the US Attorney wrote a letter saying that he never was a suspect. It certainly hurt his life, though he later recovered, won some lawsuits, and was able to appear on SNL about it.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:18 PM
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The McMartin preschool case is a good example of people's lives being destroyed by rumor and misinformation.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:57 PM
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Well we don't know that the denials from "sources" aren't another form of misinformation and all is not well and the divorce will still happen , but at a later date.

For vicious rumors as deliberate policy to try to destroy lives, of journalists, authors and others , look no further than the Church of Scientology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout

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Old 01-24-2010, 07:13 PM
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The Brangelina rumor was supposedly corroborated by Angelina's longtime maid, Anna Horowitz (I am almost certainly misremembering her name), who described Angelina's wild orgies with other guys while Brad sat alone text ing in another room. The moral of this sordid tale? Never hire Anna Horowitz as your private maid.

Not sure if it's been disproved yet, but the source of the "J. Edgar Hoover: Crossdresser" story, irresistible as it is, was one lone, none-too-credible woman with an axe to grind. And Dan Quayle never said "I love it here in Latin America. I just wish I'd learned Latin." That came from Hexagon (a DC-based comedy revue) and was picked up by Jay Leno.
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:35 AM
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So, Brad and Angelina are NOT splitting, yet the notion spread through the internet with the speed of lightning. That one wasn't really a vicious rumor, just a stupid and misinformed one (and I'm very disappointed at Roger Ebert for Twittering it, which spread the rumor far and wide). Can anyone think of other rumors that actually hurt people, or at least their careers?

Fatty Arbuckle was innocent of murder, but his career was ruined. Lizzy Borden was acquitted, but to this day everyone thinks she took an ax to her parents. I'm not sure those count as vicious rumors, just misinformation.

What are some vicious rumors that I'm thinking of but can't think of?
I don't think that Fatty Arbuckle's career was ruined by the mirder thing, anyway; I believe that it was the sex party (I know, I know) that tainted his cherubic 'innocent' personna. Lizzie Borden wasn't a 'victim' of any kind of rumor or misinformation: there is plenty of good information on her, just not enough to get a conviction in a court. It is debatable, also, as to whether or not her life got better after the affair. She had plenty of cash, which many saw as her motive.

I am a bit skeptical of the Brangelina denial of a split. Who knows about orgies while Brad is in the other room, but I have been hearing the castigation of sensational stories for a LONG time; as a general rule, IMHO, the stories are about 1/2 correct.

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:40 PM
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Richard Gere and the gerbil?
And Extra's Jerry Penacoli (at least if you grew up in Philly or South Jersey in the 80s)
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:45 PM
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The Duke rape case, as well as that false accusation case that involved Al Sharpton - ah, the Tawana Brawley case. (Forgot the name for a minute there.)

Also that lady who made up the story of being attacked in the last US Presidental race.

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:50 PM
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Mick Jagger eating a mars bar from Marianne Faithfull's honeypot.

http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/marsbar.asp

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Old 01-26-2010, 01:20 PM
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Didn't they say Mama Cass choked on a ham sandwich?
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:23 PM
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In the "Biography" ep of Mama Cass, they played some of the early radio reports, and one of them did say that they suspected she had choked to death on a ham sandwich. I guess they reasoned was that Mama Cass would not have just eaten part of anything, so she must have choked.
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:26 PM
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Alice Cooper and the chicken incident. In reality, the chicken was thrown on stage and in turn, Alice threw it back into the audience. It was only there that it was torn apart and shredded. Alice did not eat it and drink the blood.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:21 PM
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...Also that lady who made up the story of being attacked in the last US Presidental race.
Huh? Is this a joke? I don't get it.

Re the Angelina Jolie having orgies-type rumor: they always go way overboard with the details. If they made up a story about the relationship slowly, quietly falling apart out of boredom or stress or squabbling over stupid stuff, then I might believe it. But no, it's always something outrageous. Like Gennifer Flowers: "We had an affair for twelve years! He told me not to tell anybody! He used to spank me with a hairbrush!" Not "We had a one-night stand a dozen years ago and then he never called me."

There was a blurb in some tabloid about a year ago about Brad Pitt falling for one of their nannies and Angelina being wildly jealous. Now, I want to see the woman who could make ANGELINA JOLIE jealous. This woman must be so hot that you can't look at her without special sunglasses or something.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:31 PM
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Not sure if it's been disproved yet, but the source of the "J. Edgar Hoover: Crossdresser" story, irresistible as it is, was one lone, none-too-credible woman with an axe to grind.
According to Mitrokhin's KGB archive, the Soviets tried floating rumors of crossdressing and homosexuality with nearly every prominent politician in the United States. Almost none of the rumors had any traction since many of the targets were known womanizers. However, Hoover's rumor stuck during the 1960s, but only after decades of the KGB floating it.
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:16 PM
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I was going to post, "Angelina and Brad, who cares?", but then I realized I don't care enough.

Seriously, the bizarre thing is not that their marriage may be on the rocks, the bizarre thing is that they could have a chance at all.

First of all, they're both actors, and second, they're young and good looking. That makes them media fodder. That puts everything the do in a giant spotlight.

Then they are leading romantic roles, which sees them spend long stretches of time pretending to be in love with various people, where they have to provide a convincing portrayal - sometimes even with sex scenes. Is it so inconceivable that that might foster an attitude of real emotional involvement?

Now mix in some prior celebrity couple relationships for each, and that just amps the papparazzi factor by 100.

Yeah, that's a healthy environment to have a relationship.

And I thought the rumor was she was having wild orgies with other women. Shows how closely I read the tabloid headlines (while standing in line at the checkout counter).
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:20 PM
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Trivia about Mama Cass is that Keith Moon died in the same apartment she did.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:05 PM
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Huh? Is this a joke? I don't get it.
Try a little Googling, some lady did claim she was attacked and branded with a "B" for Obama, because someone noticed she had a bumper sticker as worker for the McCain/Palin campaign. Most people didn't really buy it, even MaCain/Palin were sorta ambivalent, even before people noticed the "B" was backward, as if done in a mirror, and the event was not corroborated by the nearby ATM camera. SHe eventually admitted filing a false police report.

At any rate, since someone mentioned the Richard Gere gerbil incident, I'll add the Jamie Lee Curtis as hermaphrodite rumor. I tell people there's no such proof, and for some people, that just proves it -- of course, the doctors who know can't tell us, because of confidentiality, but that just makes it all the more true. See. They have to not be available as a source, that's how the rumor got started. There's just no way to kill this particular fallacy. And it probably got started because her name is "Jamie", and it works for a boy as well. Sheesh.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:07 PM
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Trivia about Mama Cass is that Keith Moon died in the same apartment she did.
And it was owned by Harry Nilsson, who sold it to Pete Townshend for Keith to live in.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:15 PM
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:17 PM
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Try a little Googling, some lady did claim she was attacked and branded with a "B" for Obama, because someone noticed she had a bumper sticker as worker for the McCain/Palin campaign. Most people didn't really buy it, even MaCain/Palin were sorta ambivalent, even before people noticed the "B" was backward, as if done in a mirror, and the event was not corroborated by the nearby ATM camera. She eventually admitted filing a false police report....
Oh yeah, I remember that!

I thought it was some kind of Hillary Clinton joke.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:41 PM
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There was an old UL I heard floated about in junior high school ('81-'84 for me) alternately attached to Elton John, Rod Stewart, David Bowie & Boy George: That the singer in question collapsed onstage, got rushed to the hospital and had his stomach pumped of an overdose of semen. Then, someone backstage looked in his dressing room refridgerator and found gallons(!) of semen in jars.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:46 PM
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And, of course, poor Nero did not fiddle while Rome burned. For one thing, the fiddle had not been invented yet. And for another, he was miles away at the time.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:47 PM
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Lady Gaga is, depending on the source, a hermaphrodite or a drag queen or a transsexual. Jamie Lee Curtis: also a hermaphrodite.

Either Will Smith or Robert Downey, Jr., (same rumor different subjects) beat his secret gay lover so badly he sent him to the hospital and had to settle a huge amount of money on him.

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Trivia about Mama Cass is that Keith Moon died in the same apartment she did.
Same ham sandwich was found by his bed as well.

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Old 01-26-2010, 08:55 PM
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A Lizzie Borden rumor that appears in many places including several books (including the dreadfully unreliable Wallace/Wallechinsky books) is that she was named in a divorce suit due to her lesbian affair with the man's wife. While it's not unlikely she was a lesbian, this seems to have no basis in fact.

The exact events of Jefferson Davis's capture are disptuted, but best evidence seems to be that he was wearing a raglan (a sort of raincoat) that belonged to his wife and a shawl (which was a unisex item) on his head when captured. He probably was trying to hide his identity, he admitted he was trying to get away, and his wife blurted out "that's my mother!" which may have led to the "trying to pass as a woman" rumor. Rumors that he was wearing a dress and disguised as a woman are not true.

"Abraham Lincoln was gay" is a rumor that gets repeated a lot. Perhaps he was, perhaps he wasn't, but there's certainly no strong evidence for it- he shared a bed with a man for four years, but at the time sharing a bed was just the same as being roommates, and later shared a bed with his bodyguard (a man who later married and had 13 kids), which seems a bit less unseemly when you realize what happened when he didn't have a bodyguard near by.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:59 PM
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There was an old UL I heard floated about in junior high school ('81-'84 for me) alternately attached to Elton John, Rod Stewart, David Bowie & Boy George: That the singer in question collapsed onstage, got rushed to the hospital and had his stomach pumped of an overdose of semen. gallons(!) of semen in jars.
We heard it about Marc Almond.

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Old 01-26-2010, 09:07 PM
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The McDonalds funds IRA terrorists myth:


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This story is based on an old urban myth that dates back to the 1970's when McDonald's first opened up shop in the UK. The payslips used for UK staff at that time were imported from the USA, and included printed reference to the American equivalent to NI pension contributions - the 'Individual Retirement Account' - or 'IRA' for short. The rumour that McDonald's donated to the IRA terrorist group arises from this misunderstanding.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:26 PM
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A girl was raped and murdered by a techie when the song ROLLER COASTER was recorded and her screams were left on the album.

Things I remember from the backwards masking craze: Olivia Newton John's LET'S GET PHYSICAL was really "I've got demons" and The Doors' BREAK ON THROUGH claimed "I am Satan" or "We love Satan".

Another gay rumor (not that there's anything wrong with being gay): Cary Grant. It's pretty much just accepted now that he was bisexual or a closeted gay- I even believed it for a long time because it's in all bio blips- but in fact the only strong evidence he was latently gay was the number of times he was photographed or witnessed not practicing. He was roommates with and then had a lifetime close friendship with Randolph Scott* and that's about as much hard evidence as you get; his marriages and his affair with Sophia Loren and other women would indicate he was straight. By all accounts he was very weird, but straight.
The most ludicrous of all accounts puts him at Cielo Drive on the night Sharon Tate was murdered having a tryst with the caretaker, a teenaged rentboy he had frequently used since he had lived in the house. In fact the teenager, William Garretson, was not a rentboy and had not lived there when Grant did and says he never once met Cary Grant.

Jim Nabors and Rock Hudson were married. This one began as a Laugh In joke: "If Rock Hudson married Gomer Pyle he'd be Rock Pyle". In fact other than being at a couple of the same functions over the years they didn't know each other, but because both had a lot of gay rumors (certainly valid on Rock's part and probably on Nabors as well) it became gospel.
Jane Fonda most definitely did some shitty things in the '70s- going to Vietnam and posing for propaganda photos and believing everything the VC told her, etc., but the tales of what all she did there are grossly exaggerated. I've gotten the story about her taking smuggled messages and handing them to the VC guards after calling the prisoners babykillers more than almost any other urban legend.

Others from history:

Marie Antoinette was not as callous as her "let them eat cake reputation".

Catherine the Great did not meet her death by horsecrushing.

Caligula may not have been nearly as bad as his reputation. He also never really made his horse a senator or consul- he just threatened to and probably hyperbolically, and while he did declare himself a god it wasn't that unusual. He was probably a bloody and not great ruler whose reputation got grossly magnified by his biographers. (His uncle and successor Claudius, meanwhile, was not nearly as sweet and innocent as his novel and miniseries based reputation.)

Bruce Ismay's saving himself on TITANIC was not as cowardly as often reported. He boarded a lifeboat only after all other passengers at that station had boarded and it was being lowered.




*Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda had a lifetime friendship after being roommates as well but there were no such rumors (though I did think when I saw BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN that "if this had been made in 1950 it totally would have starred Stewart and Fonda").

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Old 01-26-2010, 09:38 PM
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Another gay rumor (not that there's anything wrong with being gay): Cary Grant. It's pretty much just accepted now that he was bisexual or a closeted gay- I even believed it for a long time because it's in all bio blips- but in fact the only strong evidence he was latently gay was the number of times he was photographed or witnessed not practicing. He was roommates with and then had a lifetime close friendship with Randolph Scott* and that's about as much hard evidence as you get; his marriages and his affair with Sophia Loren and other women would indicate he was straight. By all accounts he was very weird, but straight.
Well, Grant did manage to sneak in some very obvious (for the time) gay slang and references into Bringing Up Baby that probably wouldn't have been known outside the gay community (such as it was) at the time.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:54 PM
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I never heard that Jamie Lee Curtis was a hermaphrodite...but I have heard it associated with Nicole Kidman. Some elaborate story about someone who knows somebody's else's cousin whose friend is a surgeon and went to medical convention where Nicole's case was examined (with full color slides and all) and everyone was sworn to secrecy under medical confidentiality.

I also heard that Tom Cruise and John Travolta are devotees to Scientology because they were promised it would cure their gayness.

And yeah, I am the chick who was over on the Brad and Angelina thread with a gigantic case of verbal diarrhea as to why tabloids are evil. Up until a few years ago I thought that if something appeared in print with quotation marks around it that meant the person being discussed had actually said it. I was wrong. There is no such thing as integrity in journalism anymore, or at least the lines between real journalism and the yellow press is becoming more and more blurred. Besides, the way some of these tabloid lies read, the writer would have to be living in the house with the celebrity in order to have such a blow-by-blow rundown.

I also think the children should be off limits to the covers of supermarket rags. All the speculation about Suri Cruise being father from the frozen sperm of L. Ron Hubbard may be funny for us to snicker over now, but I really do think that kind of stuff is going to be very harmful to an innocent little girl one day when she gets old enough to read and finds out about it.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:17 PM
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And Extra's Jerry Penacoli (at least if you grew up in Philly or South Jersey in the 80s)
And popular meteorologist Tony Cavalier from Huntington, WV. I have no idea how that rumor started, but I always heard his name mentioned along with Richard Gere. Funnily enough, I put Tony's name into the Google search bar, and as soon as I got to "tony cav" the first result to be auto-completed was "tony cavalier gerbil."
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:18 PM
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Well, Grant did manage to sneak in some very obvious (for the time) gay slang and references into Bringing Up Baby that probably wouldn't have been known outside the gay community (such as it was) at the time.
Grant did not write the screenplay, and he hated ad-libbing.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:36 PM
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The Mama Cass and ham sandwich was a bit cruel considering that Cass was Jewish and Jews don't eat ham.

But it does leave open a joke about "How two lives would've been saved had Mama Cass just given that ham sandwich to Karen Carpenter."
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:59 PM
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The Mama Cass and ham sandwich was a bit cruel considering that Cass was Jewish and Jews don't eat ham.
She wasn't kosher though, and there was a ham sandwich in the room, it just didn't cause her death. By some accounts it had not even been touched. She died of a heart attack brought about by her lifestyle (obesity, smoking, drug use [though I don't think she had any illegal drugs in her system when she died], busy schedule, etc.).

Apropos of nothing: Mama Cass and Sammy Davis Jr. singing "Rock n' Roll Music" (sans reference to the Mamas and the Papas).

Speaking of Sammy Davis, Jr., he was rumored to be a Satanist. I think he did do some dilletantish occultism with Anton LaVey but mainly it was a combination of curiosity and wild-side, but I seriously doubt he ever slaughtered a goat or anything like.

Speaking of Anton LaVey: he was a boogie man when I was a kid who headed a satanic empire, had palatial estates and a black jet, was on the 70s equivalent of a speed dial of world leaders and the entertainment elite, etc., and his curse led directly to the decapitation of Jayne Mansfield and his portrayal of Satan in ROSEMARY'S BABY led to the deaths of Sharon Tate and later John Lennon.
It turns out that what he was was a master of self promotion and a pathological liar. His "empire" was a few die hard proto-Goths, his palatial estates consisted of one (1) small old house in San Francisco inherited from his parents and so run down it was condemned after his death, and the Jayne Mansfield business was something he himself started, and he was never anywhere near the set of ROSEMARY'S BABY.
As for evil- there seems to be some evidence there but it's of a more mundane variety: cruelty to the exotic animals he kept as pets and criminal negligence of his children and grandchildren.

Also, Jayne Mansfield was not decapitated. This was started by an accident scene photograph in which one of her wigs was on the back seat of the car.


Another historical smear campaign: Anne Boleyne had six fingers on one hand and three breasts. More likely she had a bump on her finger and possibly a sixth fingernail (not the whole digit), and a bump somewhere on her body that some called a third nipple (which later became a third breast in the retellings).

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Old 01-26-2010, 11:58 PM
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Not sure if it's been disproved yet, but the source of the "J. Edgar Hoover: Crossdresser" story, irresistible as it is, was one lone, none-too-credible woman with an axe to grind. And Dan Quayle never said "I love it here in Latin America. I just wish I'd learned Latin." That came from Hexagon (a DC-based comedy revue) and was picked up by Jay Leno.
Singer/Songwriter Janis Ian claimed, in an article titled "Monumental Mistakes" in Performing Songwriter magazine, to personally having seen Hoover in a dress (PDF) at the gay bath house of which she was part owner:

Mistake # 7
The scenario: A private party at a bathhouse in New York City in the late '70's.
The players: Myself and several hundred others.
My situation: I'm trying to pass a short, dumpy cross-dresser who's appeared in front of me and is blocking my way, giggling nervously.
The issue at hand: Whether to smack him or call security.
The discussion: “Who are you and why are you here? This is a private party. How can I talk to you with that boa covering your face? Get out of my way!”
The decision: To avoid this obvious lunatic for the rest of the night, and make a joke of the whole situation with my hosts. Particularly because I own part of the bathhouse.
The result: J. Edgar Hoover, dressed in a beautiful strapless pink evening gown, did not think I was funny.
The consequences: Who knows?
What I'd do now: Ask him for an autographed picture, signed “To Janis, with love”.
My current take: And we thought Clinton was amusing…
Given the rest of the things in her list, and how outrageous some of the others are, and how well established those are, I doubt she'd have any reason to lie about this one.

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Old 01-27-2010, 04:30 AM
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The Brangelina rumor was supposedly corroborated by Angelina's longtime maid, Anna Horowitz (I am almost certainly misremembering her name), who described Angelina's wild orgies with other guys while Brad sat alone text ing in another room. The moral of this sordid tale? Never hire Anna Horowitz as your private maid.
She wasn't even Angelina's private maid. She was an employee of the hotel who sometimes did Angelina's, or the whole family's, room as part of her rotation. She was fired last month, and chooses this time to tell her story. Which basically comes down to "Angelina leaves the bathroom in total disarray." In fact, I think this wave of divorce rumor may have started with her.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:19 AM
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Lizzy Borden was acquitted, but to this day everyone thinks she took an ax to her parents. I'm not sure those count as vicious rumors, just misinformation.
Being acquitted doesn't mean she didn't do it. So I wouldn't count it as either misinformation or vicious rumor.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:56 AM
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Napoleon was freakishly short !

Marlboro is owned by the Ku Klux Klan, and they embedded racist imagery in their logo ! (check Snopes)

Lewis Carol was a pedophile ! So was Walt Disney !

Washington told one lie in his entire life ! (all right, that one's not really vicious )

The motherlode's probably the Dreyfus Affair, though.
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:51 AM
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Grant did not write the screenplay, and he hated ad-libbing.
But neither of the lines were in the original script. They had to come from somewhere.

And Howard Hawks encouraged ad libbing on the set. It's clear, for instance, that Grant's line about "Archie Leach" and "Mock Turtle" in His Girl Friday were not in the original play, and it seems unlikely anyone but Grant would have included them.

Remember, Grant started in British Music Halls, so he had to know how to ad lib to survive.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:15 AM
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Also, Jayne Mansfield was not decapitated. This was started by an accident scene photograph in which one of her wigs was on the back seat of the car.
She wasn't decapitated, but aside from the wig that flew apart, I believe the ME's report indicated that she had been scalped.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:19 AM
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There was a rumor floating around the Internet this weekend that Johnny Depp had been killed in a car crash in Paris. Not so.
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And, of course, poor Nero did not fiddle while Rome burned. For one thing, the fiddle had not been invented yet. And for another, he was miles away at the time.
In fact, the aftermath of this fire was probably the (relatively modest) high point of Nero's reign - according to some sources, he turned part of the imperial estate into refugee housing.

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There was a rumor floating around the Internet this weekend that Johnny Depp had been killed in a car crash in Paris. Not so.
Not so ? How do you know ? Just because he's walking and talking doesn't me he isn't dead. Paul McCartney walks too, and we all know he's been dead for a long time now.
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She wasn't decapitated, but aside from the wig that flew apart, I believe the ME's report indicated that she had been scalped.
And partially cannibalized. Mariska Hargitay has never accounted for her actions that night.

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Marlboro is owned by the Ku Klux Klan, and they embedded racist imagery in their logo ! (check Snopes)
Similar tales:

The ship on SNAPPLE bottles is a slave ship.

There is a man with a huge erection on the CAMEL cigarette pac (which is technically true I suppose, but it's kind of like 'that cloud looks like a rabbit'- you can see it if it's pointed out).

Liz Claiborne or Tommy Hilfiger or Calvin Klein or [insert designer here] made incredibly racist comments on Oprah about their irritation at black people wearing their designs and it resulted in Oprah throwing them off the show and then raising the dead child of one of the audience members (or something similar).


Two that are true: Sea Monkeys were marketed by a white supremacist (Harold von Braunhut) and a portion of the residuals from Facts of Life and Mama's Family go to supporting cryonics (the freezing of dead bodies in hopes of future cure and revivification) per the will of their producer and co-owner Dick Clair.
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There was a rumor floating around the Internet this weekend that Johnny Depp had been killed in a car crash in Paris. Not so.
The same day Michael Jackson died, there was an internet rumor that another major star died. The publicist had to come out and refute it. I can't remember now who it was, though!
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:12 PM
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A joke that was popular a while back here in NC was ""What do Jim Neighbors and NC have in common? Blowing Rock"
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:15 PM
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The same day Michael Jackson died, there was an internet rumor that another major star died. The publicist had to come out and refute it. I can't remember now who it was, though!
Jeff Goldblum? From a falling off a cliff in New Zealand even! (Honestly it was surprising that one even gathered any traction at all.)
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Yes, Goldblum went on a few shows to poke fun at the rumor of his death.
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