Republican Congress

[monavis]

Well,well, the Republicans won the Congress, now in about 3 months (or so )we should expect every one who wants to work will have a job!!! The country should prosper,there will be no more poor people. Just like it was when the Republicans ran the country before. No taxes should be a big boon to everyone, everything will be free and we can just burn our debts. All the foreclosers will be recinded and every one will have a fully paid house!!! Of course I will sell you a nice bridge if you want one!!

If the mod thinks this is the wrong place please move it for me..Thanks

[Sattua]

Seriously. They've got two years to turn things around.

[Gyrate]

Good news! Now they will be able to implement the detailed budget, health care reform and jobs creation plans they have drafted.

[Lightnin']

... and if it doesn't work, blame Obama!

[Count Blucher]

On the other hand, I still pity the horse that wakes up with Carl Paladino's head in its bed....

[Agent Foxtrot]

If the Republicans get nothing done in two years, they'll simply blame the progress-hating, stone-walling Democrats.

[twickster]

Enh, for now I'll leave it here, and move it to the Pit, or the Elections forum, depending, if it ceases to be MPSIMSy.

[RealityChuck]

No, the Republican plan is to do whatever they can to make sure they win even bigger in two years. If that involves governing the country and making laws, they'll do that, but it's not necessary as long as they have something to posture about.

N.B., the Democrats will probably be doing the same thing. Neither party is particularly interested in governing -- it's just something that distracts from their main job of getting elected.

[The Great Sun Jester]

Well, so far they only have the House, Dems still have the Senate.

It's with morbid fascination that I watch my fellow Americans kick themselves in the nuts.

[Markxxx]

If I were the Democrats I'd be CHEERING this. Why? Because the only reason the Republicans got voted in was the economy. Now let's think about this. The only reason the Democrats got voted in in 2008 was the rotten economy.

They didn't fix it, so they got booted out.

Ask yourself, do you really see it getting better in two years? I don't. So in 2012 when the presidental elections comes voters will be mad at the party in power, which will be the Republicans. This is likely to help Mr Obama win again.

Almost ever time the economy sucks the party changes. Mr Reagan, Mr Clinton, Mr Roosevelt etc, etc.

Now HERE is the REAL WORRY that Democrats failed to see. Well I'm sure they are well aware of it but no one is talking abou it.

The reapportionment of the House. The Republicans won a lot of governorships. The governors in most states have a lot of sway in saying how districts will be drawn up. States like Texas and Florida are going to get 2 to 4 extra seats. California may even lose a seat for the first time ever (More likely will not gain any)

NY, PA, IL, OH and other NE leaning Democratic states will lose at least one seat each.

This is something that needs to be discusses. This is where the real issues is going to be and I'm surprised it wasn't made clearer. I am imagining 'cause the results of the Census won't be in till Dec 31, 2010, after that I'll be the next "bitch-fest"

[twickster]

Originally Posted by twickster

Enh, for now I'll leave it here, and move it to the Pit, or the Elections forum, depending, if it ceases to be MPSIMSy.

Don't know why I was dithering.

Moved MPSIMS --> 2010 U.S. Election forum

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Markxxx

Ask yourself, do you really see it getting better in two years? I don't. So in 2012 when the presidental elections comes voters will be mad at the party in power, which will be the Republicans. This is likely to help Mr Obama win again.

Uh, not quite. The Republicans now control ONE chamber of Congress. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Democrats will still be seen as the party in power. If things do not improve, Democrats will continue to lose.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Yep. The party with the presidency is seen as the one in power. Just look at 2008. The math for 2012 is simple: economic (and particularly job) growth will see Obama keep the White House, and unemployment remaining at 10% will see that he won't.

[monavis]

Originally Posted by Gyrate

Good news! Now they will be able to implement the detailed budget, health care reform and jobs creation plans they have drafted.

Too bad they didn't do that years ago when they had the chance!

[Gyrate]

Originally Posted by monavis

Too bad they didn't do that years ago when they had the chance!

I think my tongue has just punched through the side of my cheek.

[monavis]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Yep. The party with the presidency is seen as the one in power. Just look at 2008. The math for 2012 is simple: economic (and particularly job) growth will see Obama keep the White House, and unemployment remaining at 10% will see that he won't.

The Repiblicans intend to recind most of the gains, and go back to the Bush economy, at least that is how I understand it.

When Obama said the economy would get worse before it got better, he was being honest he was critised for saying that( honesty is something one shouldn't apparently do in politics)! he was accused of being a downer,when he should have been an uplifter..couldn't win if he tried, and that is what the Opposition did, talk loud and long, about the fact that every thing was wrong.Even tried to say he was not a citizen or a Christian, yet it was my understanding that when a person seeks a job , he (or she) was not to be asked their religion, race, sex, or ethnic origin. So doing such as I see it should ave been illegal.

The president was asking for the job of being president and religion, race, gender,and ethnic origin should not be considered.

[puddleglum]

Well, the last year the GOP had control of the house, unemployment was 4.6%, and the deficit was about one trillion dollars less than what it is today. So good times are just around the corner. Remember though, they do not actually get sworn in till January, we will have to wait a couple of months for the prosperity to come back.

[Chefguy]

This is a chance for both sides to show they can compromise and work in a bi-partisan way to accomplish meaningful change. Any bets?

Perhaps they should ask the Alaska legislature, which has been operating under a coalition government for several years now, how it's done. I mean seriously: Alaska, one of the reddest states in the country, can manage to work together, but our national legislators are hopeless?

[carnivorousplant]

Originally Posted by Chefguy

I mean seriously: Alaska, one of the reddest states in the country, can manage to work together, but our national legislators are hopeless?

It's too damn cold to argue about anything.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Yep. The party with the presidency is seen as the one in power. Just look at 2008. The math for 2012 is simple: economic (and particularly job) growth will see Obama keep the White House, and unemployment remaining at 10% will see that he won't.

Therefore the goal of the Republican House is pretty clear;

Keep the economy stagnant, and more importantly, keep unemployment at 10% or higher. That is how they will govern for the next 18 months.

[Chefguy]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

Therefore the goal of the Republican House is pretty clear;

Keep the economy stagnant, and more importantly, keep unemployment at 10% or higher. That is how they will govern for the next 18 months.

According to Mitch McConnell (tortoise face), the primary goal will be to keep Obama from being viable in 2012. So much for working for the good of the American blahblahblahblahblah.

[monavis]

Originally Posted by puddleglum

Well, the last year the GOP had control of the house, unemployment was 4.6%, and the deficit was about one trillion dollars less than what it is today. So good times are just around the corner. Remember though, they do not actually get sworn in till January, we will have to wait a couple of months for the prosperity to come back.

Did you forget to add the surplus Bush had when he came into office, if so add that to his debt, plus Obama could not just stop the costs of war that Bush started, and the costs will continue even under the Republicans, not to mention the lives of our service men and women and the innocent women,children and older folks. One president can't just say,"Okay boys come on home" The feathers of enraging all the crazies in the area, has now been blown to the wind! No easy task to gather them up!

One of the reasons Obama was voted in was because employment was dropping more ,and more people were losing their jobs,plus the Tax cuts for the rich and the cost of the 2 wars(one surely unnecessary) with no way to pay for it, that added to our national debt by many ,many dollars per day. When people aren't working even the taxes from that go down. The middle class is always paying most of the burden.now the middle class is getting poorer, thanks to the inherited debt!

It also makes me wonder what miracle the Republicans can conjure up to suddenly bring jobs to the people, since they didn't do anything about it before and wouldn't give anything a try, Perhaps they were afraid Obama would succeed and that was something they couldn't stand?

[Omar Little]

Originally Posted by Markxxx

So in 2012 when the presidental elections comes voters will be mad at the party in power, which will be the Republicans. This is likely to help Mr Obama win again.

I must have missed that day in my high school civics class where they explained that to have the power in the government that you only have a simple majority in the House. The Senate majority approval and the veto power of the executive branch are nothing. Thanks for fighting ignorance.

[Omar Little]

Originally Posted by Markxxx

Now HERE is the REAL WORRY that Democrats failed to see. Well I'm sure they are well aware of it but no one is talking abou it.

The reapportionment of the House.

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