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Old 11-25-2010, 05:42 PM
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Dammit. A friend is missing.

Stephanie, whom I have worked with for 8 years, is missing. Missing since Monday. My Wife and I have been out of town and I just found out about it today.

She left her home at 10pm Monday night to go for a walk. Hasn’t been heard from since.

She’s a Mother of three. This is NOT like her.

It’s been down to 15 below zero Fahrenheit for the last two nights.

Shit shit shit.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:30 PM
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Sending out good thoughts for her turning up.
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Old 11-25-2010, 07:06 PM
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So sorry to hear that. Good thoughts for her.
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Old 11-25-2010, 07:25 PM
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I hope this turns out well.

But who goes for a walk in sub-zero weather? At 10 pm?

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Old 11-25-2010, 07:32 PM
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Thanks Khadaji, and Garden.

She was laid off from work 5 weeks ago. And I just found out that she was going through a divorce at the time. I didn't know.

I'm a bit worried. No. I'm real worried.

She's a long time local. So I doubt she would be dumb enough to let the weather get her. But, I guess you never know.
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Old 11-25-2010, 07:37 PM
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I hope this turns out well.

But who goes for a walk in sub-zero weather? At 10 pm?
Monday night at 10pm, it was 'still' about 10 above. But I asked the same question.

I've lived up here for 19 years. And while I am certainly more remote than she is, a late walk like that, with bad weather coming in seems... odd. It was a full moon though.

The paper says that the police don't suspect foul play.
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Old 11-25-2010, 07:43 PM
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If the soon-to-be ex-husband didn't do something to her, I would hate to be him. Seems like a lot of these stories end up with a husband/ex-husband behind it. Here's hoping for a logical and good conclusion.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:21 AM
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Yikes. I hope she turns up safe.
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:30 AM
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Hoping for a safe return.
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Old 11-26-2010, 04:36 AM
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Did you check under the sofa cushions?

Still sending out good thoughts for a safe return.
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:13 AM
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I hope this turns out well.

But who goes for a walk in sub-zero weather? At 10 pm?
Someone with a dog?

I also hopes she turns up safe and sound soon - keep us updated please?
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:18 AM
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Who is minding the kids?

I hope she turns up safe, and do please keep us updated.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:23 AM
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If the soon-to-be ex-husband didn't do something to her, I would hate to be him. Seems like a lot of these stories end up with a husband/ex-husband behind it. Here's hoping for a logical and good conclusion.
I'd be willing to put money him as being the culprit. Sorry, but this is most definitely how it will turn out.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:27 AM
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I'd be willing to put money him as being the culprit. Sorry, but this is most definitely how it will turn out.
If she's been going through a rough patch then it's possible she has done something to herself. Lets hope nothing untoward has happened and that she's is ok.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:56 AM
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Thanks all. And thanks for the sounding board. Can’t imagine what the family is going through.

No news as of yet. They should be able to do quite a bit more searching today. She was not walking a dog, so the 10:30pm walk is a little odd. But you never know. I suspect that perhaps they had an argument, and she decided to leave. Pure speculation though.

There is a lake near her house, but no mention of searching it. I suspect it has enough ice on it to not be considered dangerous, don’t know for sure.

They are talking about bringing the husband in for a polygraph.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:58 AM
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I am so hoping this turns out okay.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:02 AM
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Scary, enipla. I hope she's OK.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:31 AM
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http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16716041

This is so distressing. Hoping and praying for the best.

From last night:
http://www.9news.com/news/article.as...5939&catid=339
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:34 AM
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Praying for a good outcome....
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:56 AM
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Doesn't look good. I agree that the ex probably involved but I hope not. Pretty woman.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:59 AM
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One of those articles says the police are considering having the husband come in for a polygraph. Aren't those things mostly debunked? And in this kind of case, where it measures physiological changes and sweating when asked about a missing spouse, well, wouldn't most people have emotional responses? Why don't they tie a big rock to him and throw him in the lake to see if he's guilty?

Question for the OP: If the missing woman is a friend, what about the husband? Have you met him and/or formed any opinion?
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Old 11-26-2010, 11:18 AM
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The polygraph is just an investigative ploy.
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Colorado criminal courts have concluded that polygraph results are not reliable enough to be admitted in a criminal proceeding. Even if you were to take a polygraph and fail, the Colorado District Attorney cannot mention that fact during your trial. If you refuse to take a polygraph test, the D.A. cannot mention that either, nor can he use the word “polygraph” during the trial.
From here.
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Old 11-26-2010, 11:47 AM
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The polygraph is just an investigative ploy.
My understanding is that they use them to help them focus the investigation.

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Old 11-26-2010, 11:57 AM
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My understanding is that they use them to help them focus the investigation.
Yeah. Focus it on you, because you refused the offer or failed the test or had an inconclusive result.

If it wasn't you the test will tell them nothing.

If it was you they still require actual evidence.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:00 PM
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From the first link:
"According to court records, [Stephanie] Roller had sought a restraining order against [Dale] Bruner on Oct. 14, but that order was vacated on Oct. 28."

The second link says that her husband was the last person to see her. I guess the kids were in bed sleeping at 10:00pm? When did he call the police to report her missing?

This doesn't seem good at all.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:02 PM
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Polygraphs can't prove anything, and can't be used as evidence, but they do have some investigative utility for the cops, and sometimes they can scare people into confessions. In a case like this, it doesn't hurt anything to wire the husband up and sweat him a little bit.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:02 PM
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Make sure she gets listed on NamUs.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) is a clearinghouse for missing persons and unidentified decedent records. NamUs is a free online system that can be searched by medical examiners, coroners, law enforcement officials and the general public to solve these cases.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:05 PM
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Question for the OP: If the missing woman is a friend, what about the husband? Have you met him and/or formed any opinion?
I’ve only met the husband once or twice. This is really the first I heard about any marital troubles. She never said anything to me, and I wouldn't have thought that she would. It was just really a shock to see her name in the paper.

I know it’s hard to not speculate. I’m trying not to. A case in point – about 3 years ago, a tourist tried to walk home from a local bar and ended up freezing to death about ½ mile from the bar. He wasn’t found for months. Ya just never know.

Steph and I know each other through different projects we have worked on together at work. And, we both have the same type of Smart Phone and net book. So, we would share tips and tricks.

I agree that the polygraph is really a red herring. It wouldn’t work on me, I would be way, way to emotional in such a situation. For instance, once I was a little concerned that my wife was an hour overdue from when I expected her. Two police cars pulled into my property and I felt my legs go to rubber. The reason the police came had nothing to do with either my wife or I. They were looking for someone that claimed my address as a previous residence (um, no). Still, it scared me to death when they pulled up, I was sure something had happened to my Wife.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:20 PM
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I've known this happen to a few women.

The first time was an asst manager at a Red Roof Inn, where I worked. Her name was Jackie. I was working overnight and I was there about 10:50pm at the shift change and Jackie shows up all mad.

The prior shift was closing out, her name was Gail and I asked her what she was doing at work so late, she said, "I hate this job and this place and I am leaving, I'm never coming back."

She never showed up for work and her mother called and her didn't take nothing from her apartment but a month later no one had ever heard from her. She just walked out and left her job, her flat, her possessions, just everything. Of course this was 1982 so it was easy not to leave a trace.

I remember the cops saying "When a person over 21, says she's leaving and goes, she ain't missing, she's left."

I worked on and off at that place till 1988 and no one ever found out what happened to her.

The other two ladies I knew who "disappeared," were later found, they were having affairs with men and went voluntarily. I never understood why they didn't make up some excuse to justify they were leaving other than going off to spend a week with someone. I guess they thought they could think of an excuse later on

Well good luck to your friend.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:20 PM
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To continue a bit...

My Wife is a triathlete. We had just returned from a race when I found out about Steph.

My Wife is often running in the mountains by herself or with the dogs. I always know where she is going, but there is always that itch in the back of my mind that makes me worry about her. Or worried when she is racing, or otherwise training. As a husband, or any spouse, it’s my job.

Hearing about Steph really reminded my about how fragile we all are.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:35 PM
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Hope she's okay...
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:08 PM
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The other two ladies I knew who "disappeared," were later found, they were having affairs with men and went voluntarily. I never understood why they didn't make up some excuse to justify they were leaving other than going off to spend a week with someone. I guess they thought they could think of an excuse later on
Those must have occurred in the days before "hiking the Appalachian Trail" became the metaphor of choice.
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Old 11-26-2010, 04:08 PM
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:20 PM
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shit. can't talk now.
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:25 PM
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Sad.
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:26 PM
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That is sad news! Sending out supporting thoughts.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:53 PM
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I'm so sorry.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:56 PM
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No no no. I'm so sorry. Omigod.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:50 PM
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Oh no. That sucks. I'm sorry.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:00 PM
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To continue a bit...

My Wife is a triathlete. We had just returned from a race when I found out about Steph.

My Wife is often running in the mountains by herself or with the dogs. I always know where she is going, but there is always that itch in the back of my mind that makes me worry about her. Or worried when she is racing, or otherwise training. As a husband, or any spouse, it’s my job.

Hearing about Steph really reminded my about how fragile we all are.
get her a nice semi-automatic and stop worrying.

As to the op, we had a mother of a newborn just up and leave her husband for another man without telling anyone.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:13 PM
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:16 PM
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I'm so sorry, that's so shocking and sad.
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Old 11-26-2010, 11:30 PM
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Oh dear, how terrible. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend enipla.
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Old 11-26-2010, 11:48 PM
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Have been following this thread, hoping for the best. I hope whoever is responsible is caught.
Sorry about your friend, enipla. And she had children!
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:38 AM
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Like cashew, I've been following the thread, and I just wanted to say I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:21 AM
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Very sorry this had to happen to your friend.

This makes what, the 4th or 5th person that someone knows that has been killed?

I know I didn't post about it, but we had a very lovely woman in our Pennsic household that got into a relationship with a man, moved away from Tulsa to Texas with him and drop out of contact with her friends and grown up kids, and mysteriously died of 'natural causes' after a surprisingly short time after marrying him and changing her will to exclude her kids. Strangely enough he had her cremated, and it wasn't until the son and some of her friends paid a private detective to track her down that the new husband bothered to tell anybody in her old family that she had died We are talking meet to die of 8 months ...
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:45 AM
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I'm sorry for your loss, enipla.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:47 AM
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Aw man. I'm so sorry.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:18 AM
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So sorry for your loss enipla. This is a very odd and sad story.
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