Merry Fucking Easter!

[Lobohan]

Just thought I'd check in and mention that Jesus, if he ever existed, wasn't supernatural and his corpse has long since degraded to dust. And like all of us, upon death his consciousness dissolved into oblivion and ended utterly and permanently.

He ain't coming back, you people are wasting your lives in a pathetic delusion.

But please, by all means, keep hanging your "He is Risen" banners on the overpasses of our fair city. I'm sure you got the necessary permits to place them on public property.

[Morgenstern]

Someone had an empty Easter basket this morning, huh?

[antonio107]

He is risen!!!


























Also, go fuck yourself.

[Vinyl Turnip]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Just thought I'd check in and mention that Jesus, if he ever existed, wasn't supernatural and his corpse has long since degraded to dust. And like all of us, upon death his consciousness dissolved into oblivion and ended utterly and permanently.

Good point. Jesus was really no different from you.

Well, except that people wept when he died. And he still has a sizable fan base two thousand years later, instead of being immediately forgotten.

[John Mace]

What a dick.

As an atheist, I don't want you on my team.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Vinyl Turnip

Good point. Jesus was really no different from you.

Well, except that people wept when he died. And he still has a sizable fan base two thousand years later, instead of being immediately forgotten.

His fans have no conception of what the actual man was like. They are in love with the idea of Jesus. It's still a delusion, but a happy one.

Not one person on Earth has a mote of emotion for the historical Jesus.

And asides, I'm not dead yet, maybe I'll gain a death-cult full of rubes too.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by John Mace

What a dick.

As an atheist, I don't want you on my team.

Sadly, it isn't a team. We are only joined by something we don't think. That said, I'm primarily pissed about hanging religious signage on a public overpass. Hang it from your building if you want to.

[FinnAgain]

Ah, the OP is an asshole.

Happy Easter folks, may it be emotionally satisfying and spiritually rewarding.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by FinnAgain

Ah, the OP is an asshole.

No one in their right mind will go against your encyclopedic knowledge of assholery.

Happy Easter folks, may it be emotionally satisfying and spiritually rewarding.

Or, conversely, enjoy some chocolate eggs.

[Baker]

the lord is risen!!!

he is risen indeed!!!

alleluia!!!

[samclem]

As a related topic, but a bit off-track, I noticed Sai Baba died today. My brother believes in him and has for the last 40 years. Did I mention my brother and I aren't speaking much the last 40 years?

[Oakminster]

Originally Posted by John Mace

What a dick.

As an atheist, I don't want you on my team.

My reaction as well.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by samclem

As a related topic, but a bit off-track, I noticed Sai Baba died today. My brother believes in him and has for the last 40 years. Did I mention my brother and I aren't speaking much the last 40 years?

Give it three days before you make any judgments about Baba's divinity.

Originally Posted by Oakminster

My reaction as well.

See post #7.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Sadly, it isn't a team. We are only joined by something we don't think. That said, I'm primarily pissed about hanging religious signage on a public overpass. Hang it from your building if you want to.

If it gets your panties all in a bunch, then call the cops.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by John Mace

If it gets your panties all in a bunch, then call the cops.

That is a good point. But I noticed it while driving, I have no idea what street it's on. I'd have to retrace my route and it's far to drizzly to go back outside again.

Instead my panties will unbunch with the gentile thumb-and-forefinger that is The Pit.

[FinnAgain]

Originally Posted by John Mace

If it gets your panties all in a bunch, then call the cops.

It's interesting that the OP is not just an asshole, but a stupid son of a bitch... to the point where Easter decorations on public property don't elicit a comment about the necessity of church and state, but a generalized "Fuck Easter and your silly religious views too!" rant.

Stupid people aren't necessarily so bad, but stupid people who've decided to be assholes are somewhat less ignorable.

[Colibri]

While I do not agree with the sentiments expressed by the OP in general (even though I'm an atheist), I am massively pissed off at some local celebrants this morning. I got to bed at about 3 AM last night after a night out. At 5:30 AM I was awakened by booming hyper-amplified music from a "sunrise service" put on a couple blocks away by what sounded like evangelicals. It wasn't even joyful music, but solemn and dreary. And that gave way to an hour-long ranting sermon, also delivered at full amplified volume. More "music" and shouting went on for two and a half hours. I was finally able to get back to sleep at 8 AM. This is a high-density residental neighborhood of high-rise aparment buildings; I'm sure these assholes woke up thousands of people before daylight.

If you want to have your dawn celebration, fine, but go do it in a non-residential neighborhood. There are city parks well away from houses here where they could have done their thing while showing a little consideration for their neighbors.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by FinnAgain

It's interesting that the OP is not just an asshole, but a stupid son of a bitch... to the point where Easter decorations on public property don't elicit a comment about the necessity of church and state, but a generalized "Fuck Easter and your silly religious views too!" rant.

Hey Finn old buddy, are you ready to apologize to me for your insane reaction to my mentioning your repeatedly making anti-Semite accusations?

Religious views are silly by the way. In any case, you should consider converting, because I read on an overpass that Jesus is back.

Stupid people aren't necessarily so bad, but stupid people who've decided to be assholes are somewhat less ignorable.

I agree utterly.

[elucidator]

With intellect, I can figure out how to make a better world for my brother to live in. With love, I know why I want to.

[Chefguy]

So, did the Pope see his shadow this morning? Is there six more weeks of Lent?

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Or, conversely, enjoy some chocolate eggs.

The grocery store is closed today.

On the bright side, tomorrow chocolate eggs (and all the other leftover candy) will be on sale.

[The Second Stone]

Hey Lobo! Happy Sunday then. May whatever makes you happy happen lots. The world needs atheists too and needs atheists to contribute good things to humankind. Go forth and be pleasant to someone somewhere.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Frank

The grocery store is closed today.

On the bright side, tomorrow chocolate eggs (and all the other leftover candy) will be on sale.

It's a miracle!

[rhubarbarin]

I'm a pretty nice person and usually feel very tolerant and accepting of religious belief, but atheists are allowed to be angry. If someone in the Pit really ruins your holiday because they say they think your faith is wrong and dumb, I don't have it in me to feel sorry for you.

It helps that I thoroughly enjoy the fruits of Christian delusions. Had a great Easter breakfast with the BF's Catholic family this morning, now off to a delicious dinner!

[Morgenstern]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

. . .

But please, by all means, keep hanging your "He is Risen" banners on the overpasses of our fair city. . .

Originally Posted by Lobohan

. . .because I read on an overpass that Jesus is back.
. . .

So, is he risen, or is he back?

[LilyoftheField]

Originally Posted by FinnAgain

Ah, the OP is an asshole.

Happy Easter folks, may it be emotionally satisfying and spiritually rewarding.

Whether or not the OP is an asshole is kind of irrelevant, don't you think? I wonder how many of those who are so tolerant of the 'Jesus is Risen!' kind of signage hanging from public property, would feel the same way if the sign read 'There is no God, but Allah!' or some other non-Christian religious slogan.

I would suspect that this kind of display is actually illegal? But I guess it's okay if its in Jesus' name, Amen.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Morgenstern

So, is he risen, or is he back?

Neither, actually.

I assume that He is Risen means to suggest that his return is imminent, doesn't it?

[Morgenstern]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Neither, actually.

I assume that He is Risen means to suggest that his return is imminent, doesn't it?

No.

[Superdude]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

<snip>I'm not dead yet</snip>.

You're not foolin' anyone, you know. You'll be stone dead in a moment.

[The Tao's Revenge]

ITT: OP troll or retard, you decide!

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Superdude

You're not foolin' anyone, you know. You'll be stone dead in a moment.

I'm getting better!

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by The Tao's Revenge

ITT: OP troll or retard, you decide!

Technically this isn't an either-or sort of situation.



I'm not trying to troll, and hopefully I'm not going full-retard. I just got pissed off by a sign because it said something unsupportable as a fact. Can't the signs say, "We believe, without any evidence, that He is risen."? Is that so much to ask?

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by LilyoftheField

Whether or not the OP is an asshole is kind of irrelevant, don't you think? I wonder how many of those who are so tolerant of the 'Jesus is Risen!' kind of signage hanging from public property, would feel the same way if the sign read 'There is no God, but Allah!' or some other non-Christian religious slogan.

I would suspect that this kind of display is actually illegal? But I guess it's okay if its in Jesus' name, Amen.

Negatory. I couldn't care less either way. It's just a stupid banner.

[FinnAgain]

Originally Posted by LilyoftheField

Whether or not the OP is an asshole is kind of irrelevant, don't you think?

I think it's perfectly relevant, and a fruitful area for analysis as long as we're in the Pit. And I say that as an atheist who'd much rather than even the exemptions for "ceremonial deism" were done away with in the US.

If the issue was simply a case of public property used for religious messages, then presumably that would have been the substance of the OP. Instead, it seems to have touched off some kind of asshole-fugue-state, bitching about people "wasting their lives in a pathetic delusion". It's the difference between "creches shouldn't be setup outside City Hall or the local court house." and "you fucking stupid Christians, don't you know that there is no God?"

It's perfectly possible to be an atheist without being an asshole about it.

[Vinyl Turnip]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Can't the signs say, "We believe, without any evidence, that He is risen."? Is that so much to ask?[/size]

Good luck. My campaign to put "IN GOD SOME OF US OCCASIONALLY LIKE TO PRETEND WE TRUST" on our coins was shot down for some bullshit "lack of space" reason.

[zoid]

While I am a Catholic, I agree that professions of faith, of any kind, do not belong on public property and should not be publicly funded.

Not that anyone gives a fuck what I think


Oh and BTW - the OP could have done w/o the snark, but whatever

[Little Nemo]

Originally Posted by John Mace

What a dick.

As an atheist, I don't want you on my team.

My sentiments as well. Just because I don't share someone's religious beliefs doesn't mean I'm going to mock them.

[Lemur866]

In other news, Zeus didn't really turn into a swan and have sex with Leda, after which she laid an egg out of which hatched Helen of Troy. That was completely made up, and I feel strongly that everyone should know it.

[Chefguy]

Originally Posted by Lemur866

In other news, Zeus didn't really turn into a swan and have sex with Leda, after which she laid an egg out of which hatched Helen of Troy. That was completely made up, and I feel strongly that everyone should know it.

Hey, everybody who's read a book knows that it was Thor slipping his hammer in the back door while Zeus was off buying lightning bolts.

[The Tao's Revenge]

Originally Posted by Lemur866

In other news, Zeus didn't really turn into a swan and have sex with Leda, after which she laid an egg out of which hatched Helen of Troy. That was completely made up, and I feel strongly that everyone should know it.

But it was published in Penthouse! They fact check these things!

[Antinor01]

Originally Posted by Chefguy

Hey, everybody who's read a book knows that it was Thor slipping his hammer in the back door while Zeus was off buying lightning bolts.

I was told you couldn't get pregnant that way! Lies I say!

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by Lemur866

In other news, Zeus didn't really turn into a swan and have sex with Leda, after which she laid an egg out of which hatched Helen of Troy. That was completely made up, and I feel strongly that everyone should know it.

Sheesh. I better go take down that banner I put up that says "Hail Gods of Olympus!"

[Lord Ashtar]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

I just got pissed off by a sign because it said something unsupportable as a fact.

Yeah, I don't buy that.

[FinnAgain]

Originally Posted by Lord Ashtar

Yeah, I don't buy that.

Imagine the frenzy that the average billboard drives him to.

"Crown royal is the best whisky, and chicks dig it."
"Lies, lies!!! You're wasting your lives you pathetically delusional fucks!"

[Novelty Bobble]

Pointless trying to reason with people of a religious mindset. The whole point of religion is that it is faith not reason.

Living in the UK I don't have to deal with too much religious imagery. me and the family are up in London for the holiday weekend and the fact that it is Easter has pretty much passed me by (other than the children decorating some chocolate eggs............but is that religious or pagan? I can never remember)

Mind you, it is interesting to note that whenever anyone points out the ridiculousness of someones religious belief it is considered bad form, if they held the same belief about Elvis or Michael Jackson they would be considered fair game.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Lord Ashtar

Yeah, I don't buy that.

Well, good 'cause I ain't fookin' sellin' it.

Do I think that all religions are a waste of time, sure. Do I think the world would be better without them, probably. Do I think that the arrogance of claiming your unexamined, ignorant beliefs are fact and posting said beliefs on public property is douchbaggery, yes. Yes I do.

As for Finn's point, I don't think that a billboard is able to claim being the best. You need to use weasel language like, "The choice of a new generation" or "Boozo Vodka, a cut above" or "Boozo, the vodka you deserve".

Other than that, Finn is just being Finn. You mad, bro?

[LilyoftheField]

Originally Posted by FinnAgain

I think it's perfectly relevant, and a fruitful area for analysis as long as we're in the Pit. And I say that as an atheist who'd much rather than even the exemptions for "ceremonial deism" were done away with in the US.

If the issue was simply a case of public property used for religious messages, then presumably that would have been the substance of the OP. Instead, it seems to have touched off some kind of asshole-fugue-state, bitching about people "wasting their lives in a pathetic delusion". It's the difference between "creches shouldn't be setup outside City Hall or the local court house." and "you fucking stupid Christians, don't you know that there is no God?"

It's perfectly possible to be an atheist without being an asshole about it.

So...you're saying it's okay for the OP to oppose the signage, per se - but that you consider him an asshole based on the way he expressed that opposition? I'm asking, not to be argumentative, but only because I want to be sure that I understand you.

IME, people who have this kind of knee jerk reaction to religious declarations are more likely to be the ones who once believed it themselves - and now have become bitter and cynical because those early beliefs seem so hollow now. So now they use the same tactics to oppose the belief that they first learned in how to espouse the belief.

Maybe the OP is an asshole for how he expressed his opposition to the sign. I would say that he's no more of an asshole than the person who hung the sign in the first place. In which case, tit for tat. You don't get a pass for being an asshole, just because you're being an asshole for Christ.

[Little Plastic Ninja]

That's nice, kitten. Here, let me make you some warm milk with honey and cinnamon. That feels better, right? Good!

Also, Jesus loves you.

[elucidator]

There's mockery, and then there's mockery. There's the mocker that says "You believe something foolish, and I'm going to rub it in your face, so you don't forget it!" Then there's the mockery that says "We are prone to believe foolish things, and we shouldn't ever forget it."

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

He ain't coming back, you people are wasting your lives in a pathetic delusion.

Oh the horror! Your life is ruined, left mired in anger and hatred because other people believe something different than you. Those unconscionable bastards.



Try this: Get the fuck over yourself, stop being angry over what other people believe, and get on with your life.