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Old 05-20-2011, 03:07 PM
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Palin says she has "Fire In the Belly." Is it just gas?

So where is she on the Gingrich Scale of Electability?
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:12 PM
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Fire in the Belly, wasn't that the name of the controversial artwork that banned from the Smithsonian earlier this year? It's sounds like ol' Sarah is being a bit sacrilegious to me.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:19 PM
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It will take more than bellyfire to be the next Baryshnikov.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:32 PM
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She's an idiot. That should be enough to marginalize her, but a lot of Americans are also idiots, and her idiocy resonates with them. I'm thrilled shitless to share citizenship with these people, really.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:33 PM
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Electability for what? She could conceivably win the nomination if she wins enough primaries, and be devastated in the general election. That makes her a perfect Republican candidate.

There's also some speculation that she might also make an independent run as a Tea Party candidate. That would be even better, as practically every vote for her would be taken from the Republican candidate.

Electability as President? ZERO, and that's being generous.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:35 PM
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It will take more than bellyfire to be the next Baryshnikov.
This rings a bell. A movie quote?
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:51 PM
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This rings a bell. A movie quote?
The Simpsons
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:21 PM
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Was that the one where Lisa got the high-tech dancing shoes?
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:25 PM
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Was that the one where Lisa got the high-tech dancing shoes?
It was the episode where Bart learned ballet.
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:14 PM
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Maybe she's pregnant again.
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:18 AM
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Is anyone else hoping she gets the nomination? Because it really seems that she should be unelectable. She's just so... vacuous. There's nothing to her. Has she ever brought up any actual campaign points? She's purely figurehead. Can something like that be elected?

...Well, this is the states we're talking about.
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Old 05-22-2011, 06:43 AM
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:14 AM
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Maybe she's pregnant again.
Or an infection.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:17 AM
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Is anyone else hoping she gets the nomination? Because it really seems that she should be unelectable. She's just so... vacuous. There's nothing to her. Has she ever brought up any actual campaign points? She's purely figurehead. Can something like that be elected?

...Well, this is the states we're talking about.
I do not underestimate her. I'm not sure she could be elected but around here she would get a lot of support.
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:30 AM
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Speculation that she may run in Arizona for Senate, she just bought a house there

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articl...e-bid-in-2012/
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:42 AM
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She's stalking her daughter, who moved there recently.

Does Todd stay in the Alaska deep freeze? Not much chance to continue his snowmobile racing career in AZ.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:12 AM
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Speculation that she may run in Arizona for Senate, she just bought a house there

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articl...e-bid-in-2012/
Please, please, please challenge Grandpa McCain (R- Get Off My Lawn!) in the 2016 Republican primary. That would be priceless, to see McCain's Frankenstein come back to devour him.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:35 AM
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Please, please, please challenge Grandpa McCain (R- Get Off My Lawn!) in the 2016 Republican primary. That would be priceless, to see McCain's Frankenstein come back to devour him.
I'd like to watch them fighting over who is and who isn't mavericky today and yesterday and tomorrow and what mavericky means and why it's a good thing when they do it but a bad thing other times and why they're victims of lamestream media obsession with maverickyness anyways.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:44 AM
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I'd like to watch them fighting over who is and who isn't mavericky today and yesterday and tomorrow and what mavericky means and why it's a good thing when they do it but a bad thing other times and why they're victims of lamestream media obsession with maverickyness anyways.
Ditto!
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:14 PM
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I agree that'd be amusing, but it'd probably be more likely for McCain to retire then.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:31 PM
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I just want to nominate 'fire in the belly' as the most obnoxious catch-phrase of the last election cycle, and hearing it repeatedly used by politicians and pundits in the ramp-up to the next election is already very annoying.

Oh, and Palin doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. If she's thinking of running, it'll probably because she's determined that running and losing will still be better for her celebrity status than not running and being increasingly marginalized/forgotten.

My best guess is that she'll play coy, never ruling out a run, making increasing noise about a possible campaign, using her PAC money for an 'exploratory' committee, 'keeping her options open', yada yada yada until she can't possible milk another ounce of publicity out of a non-campaign campaign, then she'll announce that reluctantly she's decided not to run for personal reasons. That way she doesn't have to risk losing or being made to look like a fool in another interview, while grabbing as much gravitas as a 'serious' candidate as she can.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:15 PM
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I give her four Gingriches. That's somewhere between Howard Dean post-squeal and Charlie Sheen after blow but before hookers.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:21 PM
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:24 PM
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I give her four Gingriches. That's somewhere between Howard Dean post-squeal and Charlie Sheen after blow but before hookers.
Which of these is the low end and which is the high end?

Also, Charlie Sheen before or after drinking Tiger Blood?
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:02 AM
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Okay, but I only give my newsletter a two-Gingrich shot at making it to the third issue. Two Gingriches is about equivalent to Hilary Clinton's odds of becoming RNC chair.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:05 AM
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See, I misunderstood. I thought the higher your Gingrich rating, the less chance you had of succeeding.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:17 AM
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Sarah Palin's chances of ever being elected President ended on July 26, 2009 - the day she resigned as Governor of Alaska.

If she were ever to come close to being nominated, every opponent (in both parties) will bring the subject up. How can we elect her to the Presidency if she couldn't handle being Governor of Alaska? What happens if she can't take the pressure? What happens if she quits again?
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:34 AM
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... What happens if she quits again?
America will heave a sigh of relief.
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Old 05-24-2011, 01:08 AM
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She's got zero chance. Bachmann's in, and she's basically a more articulate version of Palin (albeit no less crazy). Both of them running would be a fight over the same base of votes, and really they'd both lose. All Palin can do is screw up Bachmann's act and, via the bank shot, improve Pawlenty's prospects somewhat.

But I don't think she's running. As of the end of April, she'd made ZERO visits to early primary states.

Barring a surprise late entry like Rick Perry, the field's major players are set: Romney, Pawlenty, Bachmann. Using a very flexible definition of 'major' but still not flexible enough to include Huntsman or Gingrich.
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Old 05-24-2011, 03:39 AM
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Barring a surprise late entry like Rick Perry, the field's major players are set: Romney, Pawlenty, Bachmann. Using a very flexible definition of 'major' but still not flexible enough to include Huntsman or Gingrich.
Have Bachmann and Romney announced?
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Old 05-24-2011, 04:18 AM
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Have Bachmann and Romney announced?
No. But their actions speak for them.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:40 AM
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Speculation that she may run in Arizona for Senate, she just bought a house there

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articl...e-bid-in-2012/
I heard that it's not because she's running for the Senate, but that she might need a POTUS campaign headquarters somewhere more centrally located in the US (compared to AK) and that AZ is a state she already has strong support in.
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:26 AM
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Oh, and Palin doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. If she's thinking of running, it'll probably because she's determined that running and losing will still be better for her celebrity status than not running and being increasingly marginalized/forgotten.

My best guess is that she'll play coy, never ruling out a run, making increasing noise about a possible campaign, using her PAC money for an 'exploratory' committee, 'keeping her options open', yada yada yada until she can't possible milk another ounce of publicity out of a non-campaign campaign, then she'll announce that reluctantly she's decided not to run for personal reasons. That way she doesn't have to risk losing or being made to look like a fool in another interview, while grabbing as much gravitas as a 'serious' candidate as she can.
Depends -- if her people figure that the victimization card will still play, she'll do a few interviews and announce that she's not running because she's sick and tired of "what color is the sky?" gotcha questions from the lamestream media.
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:49 AM
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Speculation that she may run in Arizona for Senate, she just bought a house there

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Oh crap, she's running for Jon Kyle's seat I guess.

We do not need her here. Oh crap.
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:11 AM
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Run, Sarah, run!
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Old 05-24-2011, 09:01 AM
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Depends -- if her people figure that the victimization card will still play, she'll do a few interviews and announce that she's not running because she's sick and tired of "what color is the sky?" gotcha questions from the lamestream media.
The problem with her current grift is that she occasionally has to go through the effort of turning the crank on her money machine.

Facebook posts aren't generating enough money anymore, and last I saw she's having some of her big speaking fee events get cancelled.

So, she plays the "I'm running for something. Or am I?" game to remind her followers that she's still significant. And she'd better play it soon and often, because holy hell her looks are drying up pretty quick.

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Old 05-24-2011, 09:35 AM
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Shit, she'll do some kind of "tundra to desert" reality show. I can think of lots of funny scenes, like being completely mystified when her moose hunt comes up dry.

Whether she runs for the senate or the White House, or the mayor of Scottsdale, she will get a deal to turn it into a reality show.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:04 PM
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Whether she runs for the senate or the White House, or the mayor of Scottsdale, she will get a deal to turn it into a reality show.
I know campaign restrictions are becoming increasingly farcical but would it be possible for a "hypothetical" network to legally run a reality show about an active political campaign?
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:13 PM
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I know campaign restrictions are becoming increasingly farcical but would it be possible for a "hypothetical" network to legally run a reality show about an active political campaign?
Hadn't really thought about it, but it probably wouldn't be an issue if it aired either after the election or after she quits the race.

Which give me an idea for a new reality show called "Quitters".
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:16 PM
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I really hope she runs. She'd bring the most sheer entertainment value to the race since H. Ross Perot.

But her actual electability is pretty close to zero.

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Old 05-24-2011, 12:32 PM
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I really hope she runs. She'd bring the most sheer entertainment value to the race since H. Ross Perot.

But her actual electability is pretty close to zero.
Perot had some interesting ideas.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:34 PM
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Perot had some interesting ideas.
He had interesting ears too. And your point?
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:47 PM
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I'm working on parsing what "interesting" means to gonzomax.
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:28 PM
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Seriously, give Perot credit for rubbing both "real" parties' noses, and the voters', in the deficit problem that neither was addressing. Without his pressure, and the resulting proof that the people really did want the problem addressed, I doubt you'd have seen Clinton put eliminating it nearly as high on his list.

Which is all a far different thing from saying there was much feeling among the voters that Perot himself should have been the one to do it. And it's even farther from saying Palin similarly has a serious, or even coherent, agenda item, even as an "outsider", to push forward.

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Old 05-25-2011, 09:08 AM
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Grab your Popcorn--the new Palin movie is coming!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...s-this-summer/
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:46 AM
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The upcoming Sarah Palin movie is called The Undefeated?

Does Palin think she's the Vice President? Has she noticed that John McCain isn't hanging out with her anymore? Or that Barack Obama is on the news all the time?

Okay, scratch that last one. I'm pretty sure Palin doesn't know what's on the news.
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:59 AM
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Stephen K. Bannon, the guy responsible for the movie, sounds like a wingnut version of Leni Riefenstahl.

And calling it The Undefeated - that's pretty cheeky, re-using the title of a John Wayne movie.

I'm putting my money on "so bad, it makes Atlas Shrugged look good."
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:27 AM
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Atlas cried.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:37 AM
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See, I misunderstood. I thought the higher your Gingrich rating, the less chance you had of succeeding.
If it made sense, it wouldn't be the Gingrich Scale.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:41 AM
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Maybe that can be her campaign slogan, "I was never defeated. I just quit."
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