A variation of this thread. Odin will pick either 100 of your friends and/or family to slaughter, or 10,000 strangers.
I don’t have 100 friends & family I care about. I don’t even have 100 Facebook friends (and I actively use Facebook). So I’ll answer the question as if you had phrased it thus: Odin will kill either 10,000 strangers, or the seventeen people on Earth I give a personal, passionate damn about.
The seventeen, of course. I’d feel really bad about the 10,000 and would have a great deal of difficulty getting over it, because I KNOW and BELIEVE the course I would be choosing would be the immoral choice. But I’m not letting anybody hurt my wife, stepdaughter, little sisters, and select friends if I can hurt it.
It’d be the same answer if it was just my wife versus the 10,000, incidentally, thoughI don’t believe she’d ever forgive me for making that choice.
As I said in that thread, easy choice. When you consider the 6 billion people I don’t give a damn about in the word, 10,000 is a drop in the bucket. But 100 is a rather large percentage of the people I do care about.
I’d choose the 10,000 strangers without a moment’s hesitation.
Reminder-please clarify as to you are picking to live or to die.
Clarification: Kill the 10,000.
I’d whip out a mean parody of TNT’s 10,000 Lovers, but there’s probably only one or two others here who would appreciate it…
And yeah, there’d be a lot of bodies littering homes of people I don’t know.
I said kill the 10,000 in the last thread… no reason to change that now.
I am noticing a trend here, so I am adding a bonus question: At what point would your mind change-
100 vs. 50,000?
100 vs. 100,000?
100 vs. 500,000?
100 vs. 1,000,000?
Would you pick 100 friends/family no matter what?
A hundred people would kill every friend and relative I have. And that includes facebook friends. Fuck the 10,000. I don’t know how high I would go. 10,000,000? Friends are hard to come by. I’ve got a dozen super close friends and maybe 40 people I really care about.
My friends over everybody else. Period. Especially if the others are far away. Dude, I’d save my cats before I’d save North Korea.
Agreed, easiest decision evarrrrrr. You’d have to go down at least an order of magnitude on the “100” family/friends to make this one interesting. 5 or 10 family and friends vs. 10,000 strangers? hmm.
I guess I’m the odd-one-out in this. To say anyone’s life is more important than another’s just because I personally know them, seems inherently evil to me.
It’s like saying, “We don’t dare send our troops in to save the tens of thousands being killed in this racial cleansing because 100 of our soldiers might die.”
I will be one of the 100 soldiers to do what is right and choose myself along with 99 friends/family I know who believe in helping others to die, to save 10,000 lives.
I do consider myself part of my family
I feel like I make this choice every time I buy gifts or take friends or family out to lunch instead of donating money to the Red Cross or Doctors Without Borders. So, I choose to kill the 10,000, and apparently at a much lower threshold than actually saving the lives of the people I care about.
It’s not evil, it’s human. We’re tribal by nature. If I am to make the choice, my people are who are important and come first. Only once my people are safe can I start thinking about others.
So you see it as an alignment problem rather than a moral one?
Would you choose to die along with your kids to save me and a couple of hundred of my friends and family ?
My friends and family are my tribe (well, most of my family… there’s one or two… nevermind…).
I’m with Skald – choosing my tribe over countless strangers would not be the moral choice but I cannot see how I could ever choose the alternative.
That said…
If Odin opens with an “offer” of tribe vs. 10,000 but on being told I want to save the tribe counters with “OK, how about tribe vs. 50,000?” then…
That’s not a game I could play – screw him and the eight-legged horse he rode in on! :mad:
(And I’m going to nurse the faint hope that attacking him in a berserk rage will amuse him just long enough that he might forget about his game for today – highland Scots by descent… probably even have some genes from his old worshippers in there – or he won’t, but I won’t know about it…)
Yes, if it were in my power to save more than die, I would.
Tell me, how does someone acquire a morality like you possess ?
Does your spouse concur ?
You are truly amazing to me.