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Old 08-24-2011, 11:41 PM
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I pit the woman who threw her baby off a 4 story parking structure!!

http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/a...ange-baby.html

The mother had post-partum depression, and the baby had to wear a helmet to fix his twisted neck and flat head. She was unhappy with this, and threw him off the parking structure, AND get this.....went in to have her parking validated (read from another source, Huffington Post), then left. There are no words. The baby survived one day, but died today. The pain the baby must have felt.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:50 PM
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Sure, but where's the challenge in pitting someone like that? Pit someone a little less obviously wrong, and it's a real challenge!
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:52 PM
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I'm surprised the baby survived that fall. My daughter had a helmet for the same reasons. Twisted Neck (actually the muscles on one side are shorter then the other (torticollis) and flat head (plagiocephaly). The fact that my daughter had this is what prompted me to tell Bearflag to take his little one into the doctor to get checked out since she had the same symptoms, which obviously turned out to be something totally different.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:09 AM
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Killing babies is bad.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:11 AM
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I'm glad to see someone is finally taking a stand against this sort of thing. Throwing infants off buildings is wrong and I don't care who hears me say it.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:16 AM
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I don't know guys, the bastards just whine and drain society's limited resources. I say kill the fuckers.

However, this scenario was deplorable, what about the poor people on ground level who may have gotten hit, or worse, had baby splattered all over them?

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Old 08-25-2011, 12:16 AM
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Killing babies is bad.
Are bad. I can't tell you how many killing babies I've had to fight off in the last few days. Headshots seem to work, which is good, because of their disproportionately large heads.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:21 AM
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Are bad. I can't tell you how many killing babies I've had to fight off in the last few days. Headshots seem to work, which is good, because of their disproportionately large heads.
You should try throwing them off parking structures.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:55 AM
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While of course I don't know the true details of this event anymore than any of the rest of us do, it seems unlikely that a Mom was just "unhappy" that her child had torticolliis and positional plagiocephaly so killed him. Not impossible mind you, but it seems more likely that she has postpartum psychosis (not postpartum depression).

For those seriously interested, here is an article about postpartum psychosis and infantacide. Seven months out is a bit late for that though. While postpartum mental illnesses are very common (about 15% of women in the first three months have clinically significant mental illness, more often anxiety disorder and OCD than pure depression), postpartum psychosis is very uncommon, more like 1 to 2/1000. Women who have postpartum psychosis are at substantial risk to kill their babies; 4% do. Depressed women often have intrusive thoughts that may include thoughts of harming their babies but they are upset by it ("ego-dystonic") and do not act; those with psychosis feel taken over and act ("ego-syntonic") and do not really understand the consequences of their actions. It is sometimes considered a psychotic presentation of bipolar disorder triggered by postpartum hormonal shifts and those with a personal or family history of bipolar disorder are at greater risk. If a new Mom has a both a personal history of bipolar disorder and a family history of postpartum psychosis her risk of postpartum psychosis is 74%. It usually presents by 2 weeks postpartum as opposed to other postpartum mental illnesses (anxiety, OCD, depression ...) that are more often around 1 to 2 months postpartum.

Again, I do not know if this woman had postpartum psychosis or not, and if so how she was being treated ... or not treated. Perhaps details will come out over the next few days. I do know however that it is easy to miss: a mom with postpartum psychosis may not often volunteer the information that she is hearing voices that tell her to do things or offer up her delusions without prompting.

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Old 08-25-2011, 12:57 AM
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You should try throwing them off parking structures.
Uh, I don't think so: It took the baby mentioned in the OP two days to die.
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Old 08-25-2011, 02:12 AM
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Maybe she thought she was a Spartan.
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Old 08-25-2011, 02:33 AM
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Be careful, OP. That's a controversial position you're taking...

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Old 08-25-2011, 03:17 AM
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Uh, I don't think so: It took the baby mentioned in the OP two days to die.
Look for a taller parking structure.
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Old 08-25-2011, 03:36 AM
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Old 08-25-2011, 03:59 AM
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Down with this sort of thing!
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Old 08-25-2011, 04:09 AM
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In her defense, that baby was being kind of a dick.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:00 AM
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Throwing babies off multi-story car parks. That is wrong on so many different levels.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:33 AM
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Throwing babies off multi-story car parks. That is wrong on so many different levels.
Joke stolen from Tim Vine. Though he's a good choice to steal from, because he's so funny.

Meanwhile, I concur that killing babies is a poor way to behave. I discourage it.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:52 AM
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Down with this sort of thing!
Careful now.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:02 AM
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Maybe she thought she was a Spartan.
Come back with a Mini or on it?
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:58 AM
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Killing babies is bad.
Hey, take it to IMHO!
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:05 AM
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How awful. That baby could have landed on another baby.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:46 AM
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I pit the woman who threw her baby off a 4 story parking structure!!

Yeah, I'd pit her too!

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=orange...2.25,,0,-11.14

It clearly looks like she's got at least one more level to work with.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:47 AM
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How awful. That baby could have landed on another baby.
Won't someone think of the ch...


Um, never mind.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:55 AM
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Killing babies is bad.
Well aren't you a one trick pony. Always siding with the babies. Sheesh.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:38 AM
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Are bad. I can't tell you how many killing babies I've had to fight off in the last few days. Headshots seem to work, which is good, because of their disproportionately large heads.
However, if you fight the good fight, someone will set up a statue commemmorating it.

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Old 08-25-2011, 09:51 AM
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Killing babies is bad.
Let's not be so hasty in making such a blanket statement.

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Old 08-25-2011, 09:51 AM
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Prevented a person from hitting Medicare and costing money. In 65 years, he would have been a big drain. It was an economic decision.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:59 AM
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Are bad.
Grammar correction FAIL.
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:02 AM
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Grammar correction FAIL.
Not if they're pirate babies.
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:06 AM
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Grammar correction FAIL.
What's the proper punctuation for "whoosh"? Colon preceding? Capitalized? I can never remember.
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:12 AM
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Pfffphhtt, she could at least have found a car park that overlooked a lake or stream. Tosser.

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Old 08-25-2011, 11:32 AM
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Grammar correction FAIL.
AClockworkMelon's joke was funny, but I laughed harder at this.
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:49 AM
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Pfffphhtt, she could at least have found a car park that overlooked a lake or stream.
Poor little denatured baby.
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:50 AM
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Poor woman...she heard someone talking about a "bouncing baby boy" and got confused.

I couldn't help it...I'm so sorry.
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:51 AM
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What's the proper punctuation for "whoosh"? Colon preceding? Capitalized? I can never remember.
The appropriate double whoosh is bold italics font size 4.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:15 PM
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How do we know that baby wasn't going to grow up to be the next Hitler?

Just sayin'
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:37 PM
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Prevented a person from hitting Medicare and costing money. In 65 years, he would have been a big drain. It was an economic decision.
He was a big strain already. We need more courageous people like this woman to think about the economy and new and inventive ways to bring about its recovery.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:49 PM
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It's hilarious that an infant was murdered and died in agony over an extended period of time.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:03 PM
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It's hilarious that an infant was murdered and died in agony over an extended period of time.
I know right?!

It does make it harder to explain to your coworkers why you're laughing though...
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:07 PM
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It's hilarious that an infant was murdered and died in agony over an extended period of time.
Yeah, but there is probably a downside to it as well.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:14 PM
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Yeah, but there is probably a downside to it as well.
Careful now. That's what caused this science experiment in the first place.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:16 PM
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Thread....so wrong...yet so funny....
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:21 PM
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On a more serious note, this is why every pediatric exam room at our medical clinic has a notice about the signs of post-partum depression and related problems, with the indication that these are serious conditions that need to be treated as medical emergencies. It is a significant cause of infant death, is my understanding.

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Old 08-25-2011, 01:23 PM
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This is why I never let mine wear a jumper.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:24 PM
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Ha! Yeah! It's the comedic details that put it over the top. I mean, the stories are unclear on whether the kid was 1-3 months old or 7 months old, but that's hardly important. What really makes you crack a smile are the questions. How did he land? Did he smash one side of his ribcage? Did bone shards pierce into his infant lungs and liver? Or did he land on his cute li'l diapered bum and shatter his spine, hips, and legs?

Did he shit himself? Do you think he had much time to wallow, mewling in complete agony, in his own shit and blood before somebody came along? And was it the impact itself or the life-ending agony that made him evacuate his bowels?

Do you think he (assuming he was 7 months old) wondered where his mother was (y'know, the woman he had trusted and had flashed his first smile at) to comfort him through the pain, pain, and more pain?

And the way he died, never knowing anything for 24 hours except unrelenting fear and excruciating pain, while no one could really do a thing to help him, and while his parents totally did not give a shit, and while internet denizens the world over callously laughed at his death?

Hysterical.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:37 PM
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Well, someone's not getting an invite to Vlad the Impaler's laff-a-thon.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:39 PM
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This really is a tragic waste. That baby could've fed a starving family in Africa for days!
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:43 PM
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Ha! Yeah! It's the comedic details that put it over the top. I mean, the stories are unclear on whether the kid was 1-3 months old or 7 months old, but that's hardly important. What really makes you crack a smile are the questions. How did he land? Did he smash one side of his ribcage? Did bone shards pierce into his infant lungs and liver? Or did he land on his cute li'l diapered bum and shatter his spine, hips, and legs?

Did he shit himself? Do you think he had much time to wallow, mewling in complete agony, in his own shit and blood before somebody came along? And was it the impact itself or the life-ending agony that made him evacuate his bowels?

Do you think he (assuming he was 7 months old) wondered where his mother was (y'know, the woman he had trusted and had flashed his first smile at) to comfort him through the pain, pain, and more pain?

And the way he died, never knowing anything for 24 hours except unrelenting fear and excruciating pain, while no one could really do a thing to help him, and while his parents totally did not give a shit, and while internet denizens the world over callously laughed at his death?

Hysterical.
Yep, throwing babies off buildings is definitely a bad thing.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:45 PM
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Ha! Yeah! It's the comedic details that put it over the top. I mean, the stories are unclear on whether the kid was 1-3 months old or 7 months old, but that's hardly important. What really makes you crack a smile are the questions. How did he land? Did he smash one side of his ribcage? Did bone shards pierce into his infant lungs and liver? Or did he land on his cute li'l diapered bum and shatter his spine, hips, and legs?

Did he shit himself? Do you think he had much time to wallow, mewling in complete agony, in his own shit and blood before somebody came along? And was it the impact itself or the life-ending agony that made him evacuate his bowels?

Do you think he (assuming he was 7 months old) wondered where his mother was (y'know, the woman he had trusted and had flashed his first smile at) to comfort him through the pain, pain, and more pain?

And the way he died, never knowing anything for 24 hours except unrelenting fear and excruciating pain, while no one could really do a thing to help him, and while his parents totally did not give a shit, and while internet denizens the world over callously laughed at his death?

Hysterical.
People laugh at things because it's easier than internalizing pain every time something terrible happens. I'm sure explaining this to you is going to do zero good.

Personally, I find this thread hilariously wrong. I love it.

I've probably been a hell of a lot closer to real live dead babies than you ever have. The babies and the mothers that killed them, both.

Yup, pun intended.
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