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Old 11-20-2011, 01:44 PM
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What are the most fair and unbiased news websites?

I'm sick of the yellow journalism, misleading headlines, fear-based, pandering to stupid people major news websites. Enough is enough.

I want to know where the fair, unbiased news websites are for people who don't need to be tricked into clicking on links, be scared of nonsense, and have everything written for the lowest common denominator.

Websites, blogs, whatever. I'm desperate. Also, if anybody has any respectable sports websites I'll take that too. The Syracuse situation with ESPN has ruined all my respect with them, not that they had too much of it.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:12 PM
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:26 PM
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I usually go to the BBC news website to get a more neutral viewpoint. They have a U.S. and Canada news portal as well.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:51 PM
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If you are in the UK, The Daily Mail and the Morning Star are the most "reliable"
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:43 PM
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There is no single unbiased source that I know of. YOu have to read several sources and know their biases and think about the stories to see if they make sense and are factual. Try NBC, CBS and ABC News for mainstream news, then MSNBC for center-left and Fox for far-right media (I really don't know of any big media outlets that I would consider center-right, though CNN seems to be drifting that way. For left wing or as its called, progressive media, to balance out Fox News, try The Young Turks on Youtube (there are no real progressive outlets on cable or broadcast television, MSNBC proved that when they let Cenk Uygar go).

I'd say the best way to check for bias is to look at organizations that do lots of fact-checking to see who's lying, and nail members of either party if they do lie, like Politifacts and the Columbia Journalism Review. And remember, if one ideology/party/whatever seems to be getting nailed for lying a lot more often than the other(s), it might be because they are lying more often than the others, rather than bias on the part of the measurer.

Frankly, boards with both progressive and conservative commentators like The Straight Dope can be helpful in sorting out bias too, because it's hard for anyone to come up with a whopper without getting called for it by someone on the other side.

Takes a bit of research, but it's good to know who's lying and who's not.

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Old 11-20-2011, 06:10 PM
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I would suggest you try the recommendations above. And, also watch Al Jazeera English: Live Stream - Watch Now - Al Jazeera English a few times and compare.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:28 PM
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I would suggest you try the recommendations above. And, also watch Al Jazeera English: Live Stream - Watch Now - Al Jazeera English a few times and compare.
Yeah, Al Jazeera and the Beeb (BBC) are excellent for pointing up the deficiencies in US media.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:29 PM
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:40 PM
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For US news, I listen to NPR and visit their webpage.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:44 PM
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If you are in the UK, The Daily Mail and the Morning Star are the most "reliable"
The Daily Mail? Really? The only time I read the Daily Mail is when I want to read about how those cheeky chaves are earning their ASBOS or about how immigrants are ruining the UK.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:55 PM
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Democracy Now! is left leaning, but covers a lot of issues ignored by news cycle oriented media.

I also visit NPR, BBC, Al Jazeera
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:57 PM
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The Daily Mail? Really? The only time I read the Daily Mail is when I want to read about how those cheeky chaves are earning their ASBOS or about how immigrants are ruining the UK.
He's joking.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:24 PM
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I'm not a Christian Scientist, but I like the Christian Science Monitor. YMMV.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:27 PM
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Al Jazeera, BBC, NPR.

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Old 11-20-2011, 08:36 PM
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:44 PM
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The Daily Mail? Really? The only time I read the Daily Mail is when I want to read about how those cheeky chaves are earning their ASBOS or about how immigrants are ruining the UK.
I'm scared you didn't call out the Morning Star, it's the Communist Party's official newspaper.
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I'm not a Christian Scientist, but I like the Christian Science Monitor. YMMV.
Ditto, it's international coverage is top-notch
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:01 PM
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I'm not a Christian Scientist, but I like the Christian Science Monitor. YMMV.
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Ditto, it's international coverage is top-notch
I have to say, I thought I'd HATE it, but it's a reliable well written and presented news source.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:54 AM
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I like The Hill for political news as well as Roll Call. Roll Call is part of Congressional Quarterly though and so some of their stories are locked behind a very expensive pay wall. And another vote for the Christian Science Monitor, BBC and Al Jazeera.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:12 AM
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I've been visiting a website lately called news360. It's pretty cool. It lists tops storeis from all over, in a variety of categories, and then provides links to dozens of different articles about the store from different sources. This way you can compare articles about an incident and see how its being reported.

http://http://news360.com/

If you want, you can create an account which will anylse your Facebook, Twitter, and Google+ accounts and provide stories based on the content you choose for those sites but it's not necessary.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:43 AM
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depends on what kind of news you wanna hear about:

1) If u want to find information about the middle east, avoid both west (BBC, Fox, etc) and middle east/muslim (Al Jazeera) news agency, because they tend to be biased for their own goods. I usually check xinhua (chinese news agency) because obviously, china is "neutral"

2) If u wanna find out about China, avoid both west and chinese and japanese and korean news agency themselves, because all the west/japanese/korean news agency tend to prefer news that destroy china's image....while u know about chinese freedom of press itself....

3) If u wanna find out about the west (USA/europe), use western news agency themselves....because they are the most neutral for news about their own!

There's no completely neutral news agency......well, actually there is one....9gag.com
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:42 AM
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The truth is a hard thing to find these days so it's probably wise to look at multiple sources. The Drudge Report is a good place to start. It's a news aggregator which looks at all news agencies. The link titles are sometimes a little conservative-leaning, but drudge doesn't write its own articles. USA today is slightly liberal. WSJ is slightly conservative. Fox is moderately right, CNN moderately left. MSNBC and Huffington Post are only worth looking at to see what the crazies are saying and Rush Limbaugh is way right but if you want to stay well informed, you'll need to listen to him too.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:30 AM
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Fox is moderately right
For certain, very large values of "moderately".
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:29 PM
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I too enjoy the Christian Science Monitor, and I'm a big fat atheist.
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:46 PM
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Christian Science Monitor, yes, but also the Wall Street Journal. I have an iPad subscription and it's great, very convenient. Fair and balanced, too.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:31 PM
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Give this American the BBC. At least they're free from the American political influence.
Oh yeah, and Fox in America. They claim to be Fair And Balanced. They couldn't claim that if it weren't true, right.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:56 AM
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In addition to the other recommendations, I'm told that Russia Today is good for international news. I'm a bit dubious of this, as it's Russian state news--but it's another perspective, at least.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:35 AM
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What, no mention of the CBC?
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:29 AM
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I have to say, I thought I'd HATE it, but it's a reliable well written and presented news source.
(The quote refers to The Christian Science Monitor.)

Yeah what's up with that? The CSM has a well-earned reputation for solid, quality, unbiased reporting. If one didn't know better, a paper published by a slightly nutty religious sect would seem to be a bunch of dogmatic foolishness. And yet it's not. More power to them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:32 AM
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What, no mention of the CBC?
The CBC is pretty good stuff too.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:45 AM
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Canadian BC, absolutely

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The CBC is pretty good stuff too.
If you live anywhere along the northern side of the country, you can surely pick up the news from Canada. All the way back to Nixon impeachment, I alternated between NPR and CBC...and like both. Of course, back then, ABC, NBC, CBS all had excellent news gathering organizations and did not ever seem, to me, to be leaning one way or t'other.

I've never quite understood Canadian politics, West vs. East, Quebec vs. the rest, etc. but when they report on doings in the rest of the world, they seem to me to be absolutely unbiased and well informed.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:03 AM
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Counterpunch says it Tells the Facts, Names the Names. As a source for independent journalism they do not suck up to the major parties. Generally they are disdainful of the actions of both sides of politics. However they would be considered socialists and are thus probably too scary to read but they do provide another view of what is going on.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:20 AM
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If you live anywhere along the northern side of the country, you can surely pick up the news from Canada. All the way back to Nixon impeachment, I alternated between NPR and CBC...and like both. Of course, back then, ABC, NBC, CBS all had excellent news gathering organizations and did not ever seem, to me, to be leaning one way or t'other.

I've never quite understood Canadian politics, West vs. East, Quebec vs. the rest, etc. but when they report on doings in the rest of the world, they seem to me to be absolutely unbiased and well informed.
From a world news perspective the CBC isn't too bad, but internally it's slightly left-wing biased. Again, not too bad but noticeable. I think CTV is more balanced all around.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:54 PM
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Despite being regarded as a newspaper whose readership is typically thought of as soap dodging sandal wearers who who would equate the Morning Star with The Daily Mail, and some columnists who put the "Bleeding Heart" into liberal, IMHO The Guardian is a fairly balanced source for news.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:56 PM
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Christian Science Monitor is only tentatively involved with the Christian Science sect, and has been that way for many years. The name and a religious column are contractual obligations, much like ABC Family being required to have family in the name and showing 700 Club. Christian Science Monitor has an excellent reputation for news and has won many awards for its reporting. They are a good example of what news reporting should be- very straightforward and not sensationalistic.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:08 PM
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If you're in the US and looking for an unbiased source, the best bet IMO will be NPR. I watch a lot of MSNBC but I'm fully aware of its center-left leanings (I'm liberal as Hell but not even I agree with everything that Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O-Donnell has to say); still, MSNBC does have a decent amount of relatively "unbiased" programming in its early morning shows with stuff like Morning Joe or The Daily Rundown.

Every now and then I'll turn on Fox News for shits and giggles, but the garbage that spews out of the talking heads on that network is so far-right that I can only ever make it a few minutes before I have to change the channel. If you're looking for unbiased network stuff, then I guess CNN is probably the closest you'll find, but even I think that that channel is center-right.

On the internet I generally alternate between Huffpo and Politico; of those, Politico is the least biased, but it still has a noticeable right-leaning slant to it. If you want a bit of everything, RealClearPolitics does a decent job of assembling a bunch of stuff from a variety of online sources within the political sphere.

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Old 03-04-2013, 03:51 PM
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I'd believe the reporting from Weekly World News before watching MSNBC. CSM is moderately neutral and trustworthy. But romeo2die is pretty much correct. Don't trust the political news from the home teams. Go to the people on the outside for objective reporting. They generally are more clear headed.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:37 PM
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There is no single unbiased source that I know of. YOu have to read several sources and know their biases and think about the stories to see if they make sense and are factual. Try NBC, CBS and ABC News for mainstream news, then MSNBC for center-left and Fox for far-right media (I really don't know of any big media outlets that I would consider center-right, though CNN seems to be drifting that way. For left wing or as its called, progressive media, to balance out Fox News, try The Young Turks on Youtube (there are no real progressive outlets on cable or broadcast television, MSNBC proved that when they let Cenk Uygar go).
There's is Democracy Now! which can be accessed on a lot of media markets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Now
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Counterpunch says it Tells the Facts, Names the Names. As a source for independent journalism they do not suck up to the major parties. Generally they are disdainful of the actions of both sides of politics. However they would be considered socialists and are thus probably too scary to read but they do provide another view of what is going on.
They've run articles from Fidel Castro in the past. Just sayin'.

I'd say the Washington Post is the most centrist of the national newspapers and Atlantic among the newsmagazines although the New York Times isn't usually too flaming liberal either, although the comment's section is a different story.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:53 PM
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Unbiased News

I was wondering this same question the other day when my friend told me about Middle Ground. It is completely unbiased, and though not yet finished, very cool and worth checking out. Go to middlegroundnews.com to see for yourself
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:03 PM
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:50 PM
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I don't trust any single site. So my reading habits are pretty eclectic -

Left and right
Local, national and global
Black, white and Hispanic
Religious and non-religious

What happens is less important to me than people's reactions to it. And that isn't a factual issue. So once I can reasonably ascertain the facts of a news event I am more interested in different groups of people's responses based on how it affects them.
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:56 PM
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Most of the mainstream US media (i.e., non cable news) work hard to avoid bias. Places like the AP, Yahoo News, NBC, ABC, & CBS all strive to be unbiased and accurate (though, of course, there are minor errors and biases everywhere).

The myth that the mainstream media is biased is because the don't always report what's important to a small minority but no one else, or they report things facts that are embarrassing to your political viewpoint.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:12 AM
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www.rt.com

English-written Russian news site. They cover a lot of stuff US media outlets pass on, and it's pretty much entirely unslanted facts, as they have no reason to be biased.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:39 AM
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English-written Russian news site. They cover a lot of stuff US media outlets pass on, and it's pretty much entirely unslanted facts, as they have no reason to be biased.
They're basically a mouthpiece for the Russian government, though. They have decent unbiased reporting on stuff the Kremlin doesn't really care about, but they're very pro-Russian and often very anti-Western on more controversial international issues.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:47 PM
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While I've barely spent any time on their website, I recently started getting the print copy of The Economist. Most of their articles are pretty in-depth, and there's very little bullshit like tributes to dead Glee cast members or anything like that.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:13 PM
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(The quote refers to The Christian Science Monitor.)

Yeah what's up with that? The CSM has a well-earned reputation for solid, quality, unbiased reporting. If one didn't know better, a paper published by a slightly nutty religious sect would seem to be a bunch of dogmatic foolishness. And yet it's not. More power to them.
The paper was started by the founder of the church in response to the "yellow journalism" at the time. This quote is from an article announcing the paper in The Christian Science Journal in 1908:

"It will be the mission of the Monitor to publish the real news of the world in a clean, wholesome manner, devoid of the sensational methods employed by so many newspapers. "

I use the CSM as my home page, and get most of my news listening to NPR and the BBC World News Hour.

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Old 07-22-2013, 03:59 AM
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rt is anti-us
cnn and bbc are pro-us , pro-nato
i like Channel news asia and to some extent al-jazeera.
channel news asia the most, it gives more indian and asian news , is the most unbiased i think.
in india, thehindu.com is most unbiased newspaper. times of india is the most read(most read english daily in the world i guess) but theHindu.com gives more serious less sensationalist news.
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:52 AM
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I worry less about bias and more about fairness and solid analysis. By those criteria I'd recommend The Economist magazine. Facts are presented as are opinions, but there is space for disagreement with the author for those who weigh the evidence a little differently. I also like the Financial Times.

Other sources include the New York Times and the Atlantic Monthly.

For truly unbiased coverage though, check out the China Daily, the official organ of the Chinese Communist Party. Sample headlines:

Happiness Abounds as Country Cheers.

And today: Economic restructuring, slowly but surely
China's economic growth is stable and economic restructuring—that is, shifting China toward more consumption was progressing steadily.

Yuan influence on the rise worldwide:
Although the money markets have gone into a tizzy recently, More nations turn to Chinese currency for investment and trade settlement.

Italian winery moves East:
With a history of more than 200 years, one of Italy's most prestigious wineries run by the Biondi-Santi family, is ready to embrace a larger presence in China.

Zhouzhuang to offer tourists more choices:
The ancient town of Zhouzhuang in Jiangsu province has shifted its tourism development from sightseeing to leisure and health.




China Daily reads like a lot of US small newspapers, soaked through with local boosterism. Except China's town has a population exceeding one billion.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:38 AM
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rt is anti-us
cnn and bbc are pro-us , pro-nato
i like Channel news asia and to some extent al-jazeera.
channel news asia the most, it gives more indian and asian news , is the most unbiased i think.
in india, thehindu.com is most unbiased newspaper. times of india is the most read(most read english daily in the world i guess) but theHindu.com gives more serious less sensationalist news.
Nothing to do with the content of your post, but I'd be more inclined to read it if you would stick to the conventions of capitalization.

For unbiased news, I turn to MSNBC, Huffington Post, BBC.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:33 AM
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Doublezombienews.com is quite unbiased, or so I heard. *ducks*

I'm fond of CBC myself, but maybe I have my own biases?

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Old 07-22-2013, 10:51 AM
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There's no such thing as a "fair" or "unbiased" news source. So stop looking for one.

Instead, look for ACCURATE news sources. All newspapers, magazines and websites have biases, but I can live with that, as long as I believe the stories they break are accurate.

And thankfully, those aren't hard to find. Even if I question their motives, I'll generqlly believe what I read in most mainstream newspapers, including the liberal ones.
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