If I remember correctly, several of the white posters on this site haver argued that accusing someone of racism is just about the most horrible thing you can call a person.
Presumably this also applies to charges of sexism and homophobia.
Anyway, if one poster rather frivolously accuses of racism, sexism, or homophobia, what should be the appropriate response.
A caution, a formal warning, or an outright banning?
Now, for those who argue that only a caution is recommended, does that mean that we ought to rethink the idea that false accusations of racism/sexism/homophobia is the worst insult possible since I’ve seen lots of people given formal warnings(including admittedly myself) for making statements that might be considered insults but don’t include anything nearly as strong as charges of racism or sexism.
In fact, since I’ve seen people given cautions for accusations of racism in which the accused poster made a statement that was unquestionably racist does that mean that frivolous charges of racism or sexism require for the sake of board integrity formal warnings.
That being said, I’m not omniscient and white people(as well as minorities other than myself) have different opinions.
So, what do people think.
Should a charge of racism/sexism/homophobia warrant a caution, formal warning, or a banning, particularly if the person accused of such had not clearly been guilty of racism, sexism, or homophobia.
I’ve got several children of my own( white) and a rainbow of children I have been blessed to help raise. All of which would be considered horrible if you confuse truth and bluntness with racism. All of them get a lot of entertainment from THEIR and their friends"stereotypes"
I was given a warning, can’t remember if it was official or not, for calling a poster racist after posting something unquestionably racist.
So it does seem to me that the attitude on the boards is that the accusation of racism is more serious and damaging than some racist chugging along, posting racial barbs as often as they can.
See every thread Chen01 posts in. He gets warnings for derailing threads trying to skew the convo to how much he hates blacks, but mods also give warnings to people for calling him out on it. I can’t figure out why.
Og help me for having to defend Chen, but he doesn’t say he hates black people.
Calling someone a racist can warrant a warning just like calling someone stupid or childish or, for that matter, boring. It’s an insult, whether true or not.
I didn’t say anything negative about white people.
I merely noted that many white people on this board believe that being accused of racism is just about the worst thing one can be accused of, and that the term “racist/sexist/homophobe” etc are just about the strongest terms one can use but that they shouldn’t be thrown around lightly.
I’ve also been admonished but not formally warned for calling someone racist. It make arguing with racists hard when you have to keep dancing around the obvious while they can spout bigotry all day long and you can’t even point out that it is bigotry. This board is very racist-friendly unfortunately.
Irrelevant, racist isn’t a synonym for hatred. Regarding certain “races” as inferior or evil counts just as much even if you don’t say you hate them.
Bring a mirror to your computer. Their posts don’t show up in the mirror.
I can not of course comment on the exact situation that happened to you but I can see the logic of why you would be admonished. Calling out a particular comment as being racist seems like it should be fine. Calling someone a racist is commenting on their entire character and not on a particular view point or comment. That’s how I see it anyway.
You cannot call other posters names outside the BBQ Pit. There is no rule against pointing out how and why a particular statement or argument is racist or homophobic or whatever.
Of course, it will go better with the accuser if the accusation is presented in a way that addresses the error rather than being an insult toward the purportedly prejudiced poster that one has attempted (or has not bothered to attempt) to disguise.
As to being “racist-friendly,” in an effort to permit wide ranging discussions, we tend to refrain from shutting down any mannner of people who openly bear prejudices of one sort or another. The hope is that the errors of their obvious prejudices will be corrected by other posters, or, if they appear to be incapable of recognizing or correcting their prejudices, that other posters will simply ignore the nonsense. It is not a perfect system, but we prefer that to stifling all contentious discussion.
I didn’t say he SAID he hates black people, he just goes out of his way to talk badly about them and makes it readily apparent that he does hate them. Are you able to read his racial hijacks and NOT come away from them knowing exactly which races he tiers where? If you don’t you’re not paying attention or willfully ignorant.
This forum is way too tolerant of typical racists who dance around what they really feel and just infer things, and when you call out the games for what they are, you are somehow the one doing something wrong.
Is there a distinction between calling someone a racist or a bigot, and calling what someone says racism or bigotry?
The former, of course, you’re not supposed to do, at least outside the Pit, but is it okay to say something like “Those are racist comments” or “That’s a bigoted argument”?
