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Old 04-14-2012, 11:28 PM
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Avatar: the Legend of Korra

The new series premiered this morning on Nickelodeon. They played the first two of twenty-six episodes, and new episodes will be played Saturday mornings at 10 EST. I would have missed it had my daughter not wanted me to turn off the news.

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It seems in the 70 years since the last series, technology has advanced to the early 20th century (cars, skyscrapers etc...). A new capital city has been built, and a anti-bending movement has begun to take root.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:36 AM
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I watched it on Saturday morning but I missed the first 15 minutes. So when it came back on later that day I watched it again and then I watched it again yesterday.

I like it. I like the story they are setting up and I think it'll be good like the original. I like Korras polar-bear-dog Naga.
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I like that air is her hard element to learn.
And that Tophs daughter is in it and looks like she will be a semi-regular character.
I like that there is an anti-bending movement.
I like that the airbenders are making a comeback and that Aangs' son is a political figure.
I like Aangs grandchildren especially the little boy that falls asleep during meditation time.
I like that Korra is on the bending team and I hope that is a regular thing. I know the brothers are going to be regular characters and I think that's cool.
I like that the police force uses metal-bending and that according to Wiki was taught by Toph herself.


So yeah I love it so far and I think it'll be a good fun show.

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Old 04-16-2012, 11:27 AM
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Also you can watch the first two episodes on nick.com.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:31 PM
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I liked it as well. It seems to be aiming for a bit older audience than the original series so I was hoping they wouldn't lose the humor (which was great in Avatar), and thankfully, there were some very funny parts.

Didn't really get into the "evil non-benders" plotline, but from the previews, it looks like that's coming soon.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:08 PM
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I've seen the first two episodes and liked both of them. Could be a good one.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:46 AM
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Actually, I'm pretty sure it comes on at 11am EST because it fits nicely after CN's Saturday lineup. I can watch Thundercats, DC Nation, and then finish with Korra.

I like the show and I hope people who maybe didn't watch the original series give it a chance after that terrible movie distorting their perception of the Avatar universe.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:42 AM
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I loved it. An excellent continuation of the original series, though there were some things I didn't like.

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The sport thing. I didn't care for the focus on sports in Harry Potter, and I don't care for it in Avatar. I hope it doesn't continue to take up so much time in further episodes.

Toph being dead. Out of the original group, I figured she would be one of the ones still alive, since she was only 9 in the first series. Also, her daughter is a real ass. Glad to see metal bending lived on though, and I hope Korra picks it up eventually.

I do like that Katara is still alive. I hope we get to see her in action again. With 70 years to hone her skill, she's got to be awesome.

As for the anti-bender movement, I'm guessing that either Sokka's kid or grandkid is involved somehow, especially since he was hardly mentioned in either episode.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:14 AM
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Ayieeeeeeeeeeeee!
Ahem.

Last Airbender was one of the most awesome cartoons to come down the pipe since Cowbow Bebop. I'm eagerly looking forward to this sucker. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:51 AM
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And in Canada, too!

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Also you can watch the first two episodes on nick.com.
Watched last night on nick.com with the laptop hooked up to the big screen. Awesome! Thank you nick.com for allowing your content to be viewed outside of the United States of America.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:00 PM
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I was pretty underwhelmed and think I'll give the rest of the series a pass, unless I hear it gets better later.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:11 PM
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Actually, I'm pretty sure it comes on at 11am EST because it fits nicely after CN's Saturday lineup. I can watch Thundercats, DC Nation, and then finish with Korra.

I like the show and I hope people who maybe didn't watch the original series give it a chance after that terrible movie distorting their perception of the Avatar universe.
Bolding mine.

I watch that too!! Saturday morning cartoons have been something I've looked forward to my whole life. Maybe I should have some kids so I can spread the joy.

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I loved it. An excellent continuation of the original series, though there were some things I didn't like.

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The sport thing. I didn't care for the focus on sports in Harry Potter, and I don't care for it in Avatar. I hope it doesn't continue to take up so much time in further episodes.

Toph being dead. Out of the original group, I figured she would be one of the ones still alive, since she was only 9 in the first series. Also, her daughter is a real ass. Glad to see metal bending lived on though, and I hope Korra picks it up eventually.

I do like that Katara is still alive. I hope we get to see her in action again. With 70 years to hone her skill, she's got to be awesome.

As for the anti-bender movement, I'm guessing that either Sokka's kid or grandkid is involved somehow, especially since he was hardly mentioned in either episode.
In response to point 2 in your spoiler.
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I really hope they do some flashbacks showing some of the great moments of the old gang all grown up.


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Watched last night on nick.com with the laptop hooked up to the big screen. Awesome! Thank you nick.com for allowing your content to be viewed outside of the United States of America.
Hurray! I'm glad they did that too. This show needs to spread so it stays on the air.

Also I'm really glad they included Aang in the title sequence. A nice tribute and nice reminder of the old show. It is weird to seem him all grown up.

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Old 04-17-2012, 05:29 PM
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Thanks goodness for this thread! I had no idea the show had premiered, I thought it was still something like a year away. Amazon Instant has the first episode free in HD, so I watched that, then the second ep on Nick.com in not-HD.

Good start to the series. Korra kicks ass, early and often.

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It seems the Avatar-verse industrial revolution has really progressed since the last series. The web site calls it "steam punk". It looks extremely Miyazaki-inspired to me. What did Korra call the cars in Republic City (10:41 of the first ep on Nick.com)? Saddle-mobiles? The only car we see up close was when Korra fought the triad hoods, and it was clearly an internal combustion engine.

I loved and hated how Tenzin's daughter asked Kitara about the fate of Zuko's mother, and the writers both lampshaded the question and refused to answer it. Bastards.

I noticed that some of the second tier characters were clearly spoofs of characters in the old series, e.g. the arena referee was the A:TLA scientist character design, done with a different voice actor and costume. I wonder if this series shares Miyazaki's conceit that the characters in previous works were really actors, hired for new roles in a newer film/series, e.g. the "Kiki" 'actress' appears in at least one other Miyazaki film than "Kiki's Delivery Service", but as a different character.

Didn't like what's obviously being positioned as the series romance angle: Mako and Korra. Maybe it'll work out story-wise, but you can see this coming a mile away, and it seems terribly unsubtle.

I really like the main character. Lotsa character, lotsa rough edges. It is a little weird to see an ass-kicking Avatar with boobs.

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Old 04-17-2012, 07:16 PM
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Yay for nick.com and this thread!!! We had no idea this was out because we don't have cable and we ignore things in cableverse. But, this is a very good thing and will make my boyfriend happy when he gets home!
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:24 PM
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I noticed that some of the second tier characters were clearly spoofs of characters in the old series, e.g. the arena referee was the A:TLA scientist character design, done with a different voice actor and costume. I wonder if this series shares Miyazaki's conceit that the characters in previous works were really actors, hired for new roles in a newer film/series, e.g. the "Kiki" 'actress' appears in at least one other Miyazaki film than "Kiki's Delivery Service", but as a different character.

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I'd go so far as to say that the majority of side characters are either someone from the original, a combination of them, or else a spoof. For instance, Tenzin's three children are (in order) May, Ty Lee, and Boomy. In the pro-bending team, the main two are more or less Sokka and some sort of weird Zuko-May hybrid. Even Korra is Toph-Sokka.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:04 PM
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I'd go so far as to say that the majority of side characters are either someone from the original, a combination of them, or else a spoof. For instance, Tenzin's three children are (in order) May, Ty Lee, and Boomy. In the pro-bending team, the main two are more or less Sokka and some sort of weird Zuko-May hybrid. Even Korra is Toph-Sokka.
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I must be misunderstanding you, or I was not being clear enough in my original comment.

I was speaking about a character design that may be clearly and intentionally identical to a different character (with the same character design) in the old series. Not a blend of designs or personality similarities with older characters. Tenzin's kids design may share similarities with those other character designs you mentioned, but I don't think they are close matches with the old designs. And I don't recall ever seeing an infant Boomie in the old series; am I mistaken? While I agree that Korra and Mako and that other sports guy share similarities with other designs, they don't really look identical to previous character designs. I thought Korra was kind of reminiscent of that Earth Kingdom girl Zuko went on a date with combined with Kitara, but I'd never mistake her artwork for either of those other two characters.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:25 AM
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Actually, I'm pretty sure it comes on at 11am EST because it fits nicely after CN's Saturday lineup. I can watch Thundercats, DC Nation, and then finish with Korra.

I like the show and I hope people who maybe didn't watch the original series give it a chance after that terrible movie distorting their perception of the Avatar universe.
You're right, I got my times confused.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:42 AM
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I watched the first ep last night at nick's site with my boy (who I call The Boy). Great start so far and we'll watch the 2nd ep tonight or tomorrow.

I do find it interesting how their world went from the equivalent of an ancient civilization to a 20's style steampunk in about 70 years with cars and cameras and all, but since it's built within their own world, I can accept it. The reporters with their cameras was an amusing scene.

Korra's great so far. She's headstrong and tough, but she's not some one dimensional grumpy teenager. I liked the polar bear dog and am happy that we got to see another flying bison.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:31 AM
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I do find it interesting how their world went from the equivalent of an ancient civilization to a 20's style steampunk in about 70 years with cars and cameras and all, but since it's built within their own world, I can accept it. The reporters with their cameras was an amusing scene.
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I just wanted to add they didn't have video cameras, they had flash bulbs and were taking still pictures(Anti-bender guy was listening to Korra on the radio).

The Fire Nation was clearly on the verge of something like a industrial revolution, and the FN was unscathed at the end of the war. There was also the inventor guy that took up residence in an abandoned air temple who could have been the source of some of this tech. I imagine with the absolute destruction most of the world faced at the end of the first show rebuilding with new tech would get it accepted faster.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:04 PM
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The Fire Nation had steam powered ships, so the timeline of industrialization seems realistic.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:25 PM
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I do find it interesting how their world went from the equivalent of an ancient civilization to a 20's style steampunk in about 70 years with cars and cameras and all, but since it's built within their own world, I can accept it. The reporters with their cameras was an amusing scene.
That's not that much of a jump, really. Or rather, it's an incredible jump, but about equal to the one we took in the real world at about the same time.

In the Avatar world, the Fire Nation already has a massive fleet of ironclad warships at the beginning of the first series - and it's implied that they've had that technology for most (if not all) of the war. Which means they've got 170 years of industrialization under their belt. In the real world, the industrial revolution is generally held to have begun around 1750. By 1860, this was the state of the art in naval engineering. A bit fancier than this, but not by too much. By 1920, - 170 years after the start of the Industrial Revolution - the streets of New York City looked like this. Which is pretty much where we are in the show.

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Old 04-18-2012, 12:44 PM
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Building massive feats of engineering would also be a lot easier in a world with bending. A competent earthbender could probably do the work of any of a fleet of construction vehicles, and firebending could presumably be used for things like welding and smelting. I wouldn't even be surprised to see things like high-energy physicists who provide their own high energy.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:12 PM
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This is true. So a 1920's style deathray is not too far away for them either, I presume.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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That's not that much of a jump, really. Or rather, it's an incredible jump, but about equal to the one we took in the real world at about the same time.

In the Avatar world, the Fire Nation already has a massive fleet of ironclad warships at the beginning of the first series - and it's implied that they've had that technology for most (if not all) of the war. Which means they've got 170 years of industrialization under their belt. In the real world, the industrial revolution is generally held to have begun around 1750. By 1860, this was the state of the art in naval engineering. A bit fancier than this, but not by too much. By 1920, - 170 years after the start of the Industrial Revolution - the streets of New York City looked like this. Which is pretty much where we are in the show.
Thank you for this. What a great, informative post!
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:05 PM
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I wouldn't even be surprised to see things like high-energy physicists who provide their own high energy.
Quantum bending. I like it.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:18 PM
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Thank you for this. What a great, informative post!
I'll second this. Good job.

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Quantum bending. I like it.
Isn't that what the original bending kind of is. The giant lion-turtle said something like, "Before the age of the Avatar we bent not the elements but the energy within ourselves."

So yeah, creators of Avatar, get on that. Faster than light travel would be awesome.*

Korra FTL's over to the water planet Lucia where everyone is a water bender except poor little Lu-Lu the Lucian who was born a fire bender. She's a lonely little Lucian who gets made fun of by her peers. She dreams of finding a place where there are other benders besides water benders and then one day Korra shows up and is all like, "Hey, sup." and Lu-Lu is all "SQUEEEEEEEE" and Korra takes her back to Earth** where Lu-Lu developes into a Master fire bender and one day becomes the new Fire Lord.

But power starts to corrupt great and powerful Lu-Lu and she starts a war against the other Nations and Korra is all, and then they have a huge battle and Korra banishes Lu-Lu back to Lucia where again her fire bending is useless and all the others Lucians won't let poor little Lu-Lu play in any Lucian games and she is all, again.


* I am not a Quantumist or even a physicist or even one who cares if FTL and Quantum anything have any relation to each other. It's a made up story. It's not real.
**Or whatever their planet is called.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:44 PM
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For some reason, I have just gotten a weird mental image of a crossover between the Wheel of Time and Avatar. I am both disturbed and intrigued.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:50 PM
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**Or whatever their planet is called.
They have the same constellations as us, and a moon that looks like ours. It might be some alternate-reality version of Earth, or Earth in the distant future or past, but it's Earth all right.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:52 PM
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Good to know. Thanks Chronos.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:02 PM
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They have the same constellations as us, and a moon that looks like ours. It might be some alternate-reality version of Earth, or Earth in the distant future or past, but it's Earth all right.
I have suspected for a while there might be some reveal on this, possibly a throw away background detail. The strange hybrid earth animals point to it as well.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:08 PM
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I have suspected for a while there might be some reveal on this, possibly a throw away background detail. The strange hybrid earth animals point to it as well.
They did have that bit about the Earth King's bear.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:29 PM
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So what does the mentioning and lampshade hanging on Zuko's mother mean? Of course Katara is interrupted before she can tell the story.

Does this mean that rumored TV movie/miniseries that was to show Zuko searching for his mom is back on and will get made, or that its not and we will never get this story?
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:24 PM
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Does this mean that rumored TV movie/miniseries that was to show Zuko searching for his mom is back on and will get made, or that its not and we will never get this story?
Well, the answer to that question is an amazing story. Gotta run, see ya.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:00 AM
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Re-watching the first ep in HD (thanks Amazon!), I noticed a few odd things:

The "metal bender" cops don't seem to do any actual bending of any sort. They just use mechanical wire shooters and hooks. In the scene after the cops detain Korra, with Chief Bei Fong questioning her, the Chief appears to be wearing a device on her back that looks like what the other cops might have had, a wire spooling device of some sort. Apparently the Chief will be doing some high-wire work in future episodes.

In the same scene, it appears that the interrogation room has openable metal shutters all over it. Apparently the Republic City cops' theme will be very clockwork in the series. And what's with the double scratch marks on Chief Bei Fong's face?

The woman with the platypus bear in the scene just after is such an odd note. These two must be recurring background characters we'll see later, like Cabbage Guy in the old series.

Hmm, Amon's henchman in the brief ending scene appear to carry two short swords on their backs, with a small cylindrical tank that has hoses connected to the scabbards. I wonder what that's about?

Also re Amon (that's his name, right?) - he wears a mask, which means there's some big reveal ahead when we see his face. Is he some legacy character, or the issue (son, stepchild, whatever) of a character from the old series? Sokka's bastard kid who can't bend because Sokka couldn't, and he's back and pissed? Anyone got a theory to put out there?

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:11 AM
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Also re Amon (that's his name, right?) - he wears a mask, which means there's some big reveal ahead when we see his face. Is he some legacy character, or the issue (son, stepchild, whatever) of a character from the old series? Sokka's bastard kid who can't bend because Sokka couldn't, and he's back and pissed? Anyone got a theory to put out there?
My main guesses were either rogue descendant of Sokka or a descendant of someone like Ty Lee.

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I really want to guess he's related to Ty Lee because according to the wiki, he has the ability to block Chi flow via pressure points just like she could.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:40 AM
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My main guesses were either rogue descendant of Sokka or a descendant of someone like Ty Lee.

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I really want to guess he's related to Ty Lee because according to the wiki, he has the ability to block Chi flow via pressure points just like she could.
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Hmm... at the end of the original series, it's revealed that Ty Lee had joined the Warriors of Kyoshi and taught the other members of that group chi blocking. So Amon could be either a descendent of Ty Lee OR a descendent of any member of the Warriors of Kyoshi. Suki was a Warrior of Kyoshi, so we can assume she also learned chi-blocking. And I'll go further and assume she bonded with Sokka (which seems like a safe bet). So Amon could well be related to Sokka's and be a chi-blocker through Sokka being married to Suki. Based on that I'm going to guess that Amon is Sokka and Suki's son or grandson.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:01 AM
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Its going to be a little tacky if everyone in the new series is a descendant (or reincarnation, I guess) of the original

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Old 04-19-2012, 06:12 PM
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So what does the mentioning and lampshade hanging on Zuko's mother mean? Of course Katara is interrupted before she can tell the story.

Does this mean that rumored TV movie/miniseries that was to show Zuko searching for his mom is back on and will get made, or that its not and we will never get this story?
I don't know about a mini series, but I just found this:
http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/The_Promise

"The Promise is the trilogy of comics set in the Avatar universe as a continuation of the Avatar: The Last Airbender storyline. Written by award winning comic author Gene Yang, the trilogy will be released by Dark Horse Comics in collaboration with Nickelodeon in 2012.[1][2] Mainly set one year after the conclusion of the original series, The Promise Trilogy will detail the adventures of Avatar Aang and his friends soon after the War, and will provide a link to the spin-off series The Legend of Korra."

So maybe some closure regarding Ursa might be found in there.

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Old 04-19-2012, 06:17 PM
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The "metal bender" cops don't seem to do any actual bending of any sort. They just use mechanical wire shooters and hooks. In the scene after the cops detain Korra, with Chief Bei Fong questioning her, the Chief appears to be wearing a device on her back that looks like what the other cops might have had, a wire spooling device of some sort. Apparently the Chief will be doing some high-wire work in future episodes.
I assumed they had spools of metal wire on their back, and they controlled it with metalbending when they shot it out at people.
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:43 PM
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I assumed they had spools of metal wire on their back, and they controlled it with metalbending when they shot it out at people.
Huh. You're probably right. I'd figured it was some sort of clockwork shooting mechanism in the sleeves/cuffs of their outfits, ala Spider-Man non-organic style web shooters. You're interpretation sounds more likely, else why call them metal benders?

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Old 04-19-2012, 09:57 PM
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I was definitely not impressed, as I previous posted elsewhere on this site. The secondary characters were great and the show's sense of humor enjoyable start to finish, but I was distinctly underwhelmed by Korra, who skirts the thin edge of mary Sue in the first two episodes as well as being surprisingly lame for all of it. The Fire Ferrets as a whole are just tepid, with few character traits worth mentioning, while the bending sport coming off remarkably dull.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:09 PM
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i thought they didn't do a very good job setting up korra. i don't want her one-dimensional, but i think she needed to be fleshed out better. aang as an airbender had a defined personality. korra is just an empty vessel. if they wanted to make her "different" maybe they could have made her darker/angrier like zukko and have her be resentful of being deprived of a childhood and forced to train at such an early age. or just not a very good bender at all in EVERY facet, and the only thing that makes her the avatar is the potential to bend all 4 elements. or just unbelievably OP that she can run around being reckless and not worry about any consequences... and then SLAM. gets her chi blocked and has to learn to win her battles without bending. a lot of interesting directions to go to and the one they chose i felt was pretty uninspired.
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...I was distinctly underwhelmed by Korra, who skirts the thin edge of mary Sue in the first two episodes as well as being surprisingly lame for all of it.
Right, because heaven forbid a female who spent their entire life training at something be good at it.

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if they wanted to make her "different" maybe they could have made her darker/angrier like zukko and have her be resentful of being deprived of a childhood and forced to train at such an early age. or just not a very good bender at all in EVERY facet, and the only thing that makes her the avatar is the potential to bend all 4 elements.
Why would she be resentful? She loves bending! She sucks at the diplomacy & spirit side of being the Avatar, but she loves the martial arts themselves and the competition that comes with it.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:19 AM
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I'm not hugely thrilled about the sports theme they seem to be going with, but I'm not a sports guy. Maybe it was because of that, but her two teammates seemed pretty thin. Yeah, first episode and all, but this show is usually better about getting you interested in new characters very early on. These guys were pretty forgettable so far.

Korra herself I thought was great. I like that she seems to have the same basic personality traits as Aang - which makes sense, since she is Aang, reincarnated - but filtered through very different experiences. She's known she was the Avatar practically since she could walk, so it's not some heavy burden that's suddenly upset her entire life. On the other hand, despite being older, better trained, and more naturally apt at bending, she's vastly less experienced than Aang was at the beginning of his series. By eleven, Aang was already an accomplished world traveler, with friends in every nation, and an understanding of how to get along in variety of environments, from big cities to ice floes. Korra's lived her entire life cloistered in a monastery, and doesn't last more than a couple of hours in Republic City before she's under arrest. Along those lines, Aang (who's carrying a lot of guilt over not preventing the war) has much more awareness of his effects on the world around him - in his first episode, when he realizes his actions are endangering Kitara's village, he gives himself up. In Korra's first episode, when she gets into a fight, she demolishes a row of shops, and doesn't even realize it until someone else points it out to her. Korra's never really had to bend in a non-classroom environment, and she doesn't really understand how her powers - and position - can be a danger to those around her.

That could be a very interesting character trait, particularly considering that this is about the same period in real world history where the modern concept of the celebrity was invented - and that seems to be paralleled in the Avatarverse, what with Korra giving press conferences, and joining a pro sports team. On top of that, the previews seem to indicate that the main story arc for this season (at least) is going to have something to do with a fascistic cult of popularity. That could be a very interesting arena to throw Korra into, and a great way to present a non-bender as a credible threat to a nearly-full trained Avatar. A skilled manipulator of the newly created popular media taking on an inexperienced girl whose been thrust into the limelight purely by an accident of her birth: that's not an enemy you can beat by throwing boulders at him. I suspect that either he'll manipulate her into somehow supporting her before revealing his Nefarious Plans, or he'll target her publicly as the face of what's wrong with benders in general, and her attempts to fight him head on get twisted into giving him more support. Hell, maybe both.

On a final note, I want to state that Tenzin's son freaks me right the fuck out.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:41 AM
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Its going to be a little tacky if everyone in the new series is a descendant (or reincarnation, I guess) of the original
What's tacky about that? Setting reincarnation aside, everyone you know is somebody's son or grandson (or daughter or granddaughter).

Or maybe I don't get what you meant by "tacky" ?

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What's tacky about that? Setting reincarnation aside, everyone you know is somebody's son or grandson (or daughter or granddaughter).
How many people in your immediate circle of acquaintances are the grandchildren of people who were in your grandfather's immediate circle of acquaintances?
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:51 AM
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Another action and adventure series, hooray! I’ve been visualized this will hit the big screen too just like the first series of the Last Airbender. Thought she was the offspring of Aang and Katara which confuse a bit, why isn’t their progency take the role? Are they going to appear in this series too?
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I'm not hugely thrilled about the sports theme they seem to be going with, but I'm not a sports guy. Maybe it was because of that, but her two teammates seemed pretty thin. Yeah, first episode and all, but this show is usually better about getting you interested in new characters very early on. These guys were pretty forgettable so far.
Agree.

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Korra's lived her entire life cloistered in a monastery
I'd replace that with "training in her home town" at the South (right?) Pole where she grew up, under a series of bending masters.

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In Korra's first episode, when she gets into a fight, she demolishes a row of shops, and doesn't even realize it until someone else points it out to her.
I thought she realized it quite well, but didn't think it was a problem as long as justice was done against the Bad Guys. Basically she thinks of herself as an officer of the State, where the State disagrees.

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Korra's never really had to bend in a non-classroom environment, and she doesn't really understand how her powers - and position - can be a danger to those around her.
Nonsense. She understands that she can mess people up, and only uses powers to mess up the Bad Guys. But she definitely doesn't understand living in the Big City, where she charges Naga around on thoroughfares, causing accidents or worse, because she's not a city girl. She'll get up to speed, and make sure Naga does as well.

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That could be a very interesting arena to throw Korra into, and a great way to present a non-bender as a credible threat to a nearly-full trained Avatar. A skilled manipulator of the newly created popular media taking on an inexperienced girl whose been thrust into the limelight purely by an accident of her birth: that's not an enemy you can beat by throwing boulders at him. I suspect that either he'll manipulate her into somehow supporting her before revealing his Nefarious Plans, or he'll target her publicly as the face of what's wrong with benders in general, and her attempts to fight him head on get twisted into giving him more support. Hell, maybe both.
That's a good analysis. And definitely both.

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On a final note, I want to state that Tenzin's son freaks me right the fuck out.
Glad its not just me, his character design is... disturbing.
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How many people in your immediate circle of acquaintances are the grandchildren of people who were in your grandfather's immediate circle of acquaintances?
Um, most of my family? If you include Family as Acquaintance. Otherwise, who the hell knows -- it seems likely that many folk I grew up knowing were descendents of people from a generation or two before who all knew each other. How the hell would I know if these were/weren't the case. If I lived/grew up in the same place as where my previous or next previous generation lived, it seems likely I'd know peers that fit that description.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:16 AM
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How many people in your immediate circle of acquaintances are the grandchildren of people who were in your grandfather's immediate circle of acquaintances?
Actually, let me try that answer again.

We're in Republic City, 70 years after the events of the last series. The main characters of the last series were all apparently instrumental in the founding of this city. We're now 1-2 generations from that time. I can say that I would not at all be surprised to find that people descended or associated from those founders were important people in the city, officially or unofficially, and that characters in this story, who might also affects major events in this city, might encounter them.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:28 AM
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Thought she was the offspring of Aang and Katara which confuse a bit, why isn’t their progency take the role? Are they going to appear in this series too?
Her airbending teacher is Aang and Katara's son. And the role of the Avatar is explicitly not genetic, or else it wouldn't change nation every go round.
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