Legend of Korra - Wow. (and open spoilers)

I just finished the first set of episodes of this show and I am aware of the previous thread(s) on the show, but it has been awhile, so I’m making a new one. :slight_smile:

Wow, that was…awesome! I waited until now to see the show because I was extremely doubtful anything could live up to the original series(one of my favorites).

Well, it may not be as good as the original show, but it is very close. I loved Legend of the Korra and I actually found myself emotionally invested in the final moments. When she loses her powers and regains them at the end, I was moved. And when she gives the bending power back to the older lady(their good friend), I was verging on actual man-tears.

I applaud it, recommend it, and will be watching the show as it continues from here.

If the original is a 10/10(and I think it is), then this was a shockingly high 9/10.

I actually enjoyed Korra much more than Airbender. I found the pace much livelier, as there are much fewer ‘filler’ episodes. Though I’m sure that was out of necessity, as there were so few episodes slated for the first (and at the time, only foreseeable) season. I also found the more serious nature of the show refreshing. That’s one thing that I disliked about Airbender, was how silly it got at times. Being an adult, I also disliked the extremely young age of the characters (especially Aang), and found myself feeling uncomfortable at any signs of romance. I realize that’s just my own personal feelings on the matter, but I enjoyed the romance in Korra much more. It was older and more ‘real’ to me.

I’m anxiously awaiting the new season and I hope they give it a longer run than the first season. It was clearly very popular. Honestly, my ONLY complaint about Korra? Their choice for Iroh’s voice actor. I can understand the reasoning, but ffs, the guy should have tried to age the voice a bit. You get this strong, mature looking man and then he opens his mouth and he sounds like a pre-pubescent kid. Wth?

Really? I thought it was too-obviously Zuko’s voice coming out of the guy’s mouth, which was distracting, but it didn’t seem to be the wrong age for the character. FWIW, Dante Basco, the voice actor in question, was born in 1975, which puts him in his 30’s when that voice was recorded.

I was amazed and blown away by the ending… how Tarrlok and Amon… “resolved their differences” didn’t expect THAT in a kids show.

I liked the filler in the original ones and some of my favorite episodes are filler episodes.

I thought the new one felt very rushed and I was not nearly as emotionally vested in the outcome. Plus the characters were pretty 1 dimensional. The only one that was remotely interesting to me was the “schlubby” brother that loved Korra but Korra didn’t like back.

I know…blew me away.

“Yes, it will be just like when we were kids…just like when we were…”

BOOM!

Very surprising.

I adore the original show, and like pancake3 find that many of my favorite episodes are those often dismissed as “filler” - character-centric episodes like “Sokka’s Master,” “The Headband,” “The Cave of Two Lovers,” or “Tales of Ba Sing Se.”

That being said, I also really loved the first season of Korra.

I agree that it suffers somewhat from the lack of time to breathe. Korra S1 could really have done with an additional few episodes, if only so that some of the plot could have doled out over a longer time, allowing for more small character moments of the sort that made the cast from Avatar so complex and enjoyable. However, despite that, I also think that Korra’s almost relentlessly brisk plotting gave it a great sense of urgency. Now that the full season is available on DVD, it’s a ton of fun to blast through from start to finish. The story is propulsive and exciting, with shocking twists that still nonetheless feel utterly correct in retrospect, and the animation and music are both a giant leap forward from Avatar (which was no slouch in both departments, itself).

And I don’t think the characters were paper thin. Korra herself is a wonderfully nuanced protagonist, equal parts brash and vulnerable, and wonderfully acted. I also think that Tenzin, Asami, and especially Lin Beifong are some of the best characters the Avatarverse has produced - they all feel like fully realized people, full of strengths and flaws and contradictions and history.

Amon and Tarrlok made for great villains. I really dug the expansion of bloodbending, a horrifying concept only briefly touched upon in the first show. And the scene pope_hentai cited from the last episode left a terribly, wonderfully unexpected lump in my throat. It was the same feeling I got watching Azula’s downfall in the series finale of “Avatar,” when she is chained against the grate, broken, and screaming her despair into the sky. I love when characters that we’ve been rooting against all this time get their comeuppance in a way that we, the viewers, actually empathize with them, rather than celebrating their defeat.

It is unfortunate that Mako and Bolin don’t get the same level of development. The former is rendered pretty unlikeable by the focus on his love life (something that only works if the audience is first given reason to actually care about the character in question). And the latter, IMO, never really transcended the sense of being “Sokka 2.0.” That being said, I think there’s plenty of room for these two characters to grow in coming seasons, and look forward to seeing where the writers take them. And after four seasons of pretty awesome television, I do trust these writers.

Was Mako named after the actor Mako Iwamatsu who voiced the grandfather in the first show? I wouldn’t be surprised, since Mako died while still making the first show.

I preferred the first one, but Korra was good. I agree that it should have been longer, because the first series gradually added to Team Avatar (the filler episodes, like win Toph and the guys used their powers to scam people) and this one seemed to just dump everyone together.

And I missed a bad guy with the charisma of Princess Azula - the original really took off for me when she grabbed Mei and Tai Li to help track the avatar in the second series (and they added Toph), and the rushed breakdown of her character in season 3 is my biggest gripe.

The ending of Korra was moving, with the spirit of Ang coming to her. And I liked Toph’s daughter Lin Beifong a lot.

This hadn’t occurred to me before, and I’d be thrilled it if it were true. Mako!

Yup, it’s true. Absolute first thing I looked up when I heard the name.

I have to say I hated the ending to Korra, worst part for me. It felt a lot like Nick suddenly cut half their episodes and they had to Deus Ex Machina Korra’s powers back for a satisfying ending. I was really hoping for half a season with a powerless avatar, and her learning how non-benders feel, given that she’s been nothing but a bender (or rather The Bender) her whole life, while searching for a way to get her powers back. Also, I like Asami, and felt really bad for her.

I liked Korra, but it wasn’t even close to the epicness of Avatar:TLAB. I think in some ways it suffered from the Star Trek TOS vs DS9 syndrome:

  • Star Trek:TOS/A:TLAB: road movie. Travel from place to place; always something new, seek out new life and new adventures. Fresh.

  • DS9/Korra: sit in one spot, same people, wait for stuff to happen. Not fresh.

I recall an interview where they said that keeping it in the one city was a very deliberate decision, specifically to keep it from being a rehash of TLAB.

Thanks, I hadn’t heard that, and it brings a smile to my (and Conan’s :wink: !) face. Mako!

I also agree with your complaints about the pacing of Korra. At the final episode I hadn’t heard that there was (originally) only one season, and boom! they wrapped the whole thing up in 15 minutes. It wasn’t a bad ending, but I felt she hadn’t earned that ending…yet. And I agree, an avatar sans powers would have been a powerful season, there was a lot that could have been done with it. Alas.

Korra is high quality. Great art, memorable facial animations, and cool action scenes. Character-wise Korra was fine, but I found Mako and Bolin boring and the love triangle felt forced and out of place. And Zuko more or less being reincarnated made me eye roll a bit.

It left a lot of potential on the table though. I saved this post from /co/ a long time ago, sums my feelings.

Marshmallow’s quote is exactly why I wanted a powerless Avatar for half a season or so. I feel like the show was setting up “Amon is gone, everything is okay, right? Equalists don’t have a valid point, he was crazy.” Then Korra, now powerless, has to experience the frustration a non-bender must feel when surrounded by benders. Realizing how difficult it is how to defend yourself against somebody who can shoot fire at you, getting mocked for losing her powers, being disregarded by politicians (even more than usual at least) because she’s no longer a bender. So she travels around trying to get her powers back, and comes to terms with the fact that the Equalists sort of had very legitimate grievances. But of course, they are also a little extremist, so she has to also remember that benders can’t just be categorically and systematically dismissed either, because that wouldn’t be fair.

Then she can get her powers back (or not, it could work either way, but realistically she’d get her powers back) and not just be the symbol of balance between the elements, between the spirit world and material world, but be the balance between benders and non-benders.

That’s why I felt cheated by the “Aang’s spirit is here to Energy Bend you back to normal from the afterlife, everything’s fine now!” ending.

It made sense, though. We know that Aang had the ability, and we know that in the Avatar State they have all 4 elements, even if the avatar doesn’t in their normal state.

What annoyed me about the Equalist movement is that it had already been well-established that a skilled non-Bender could handle a Bender. Mei and Tai Li held their own numerous times, and Azula held her own against Aang and Toph during the eclipse. The entire point of “Sokka’s Master” was to set him up as an equal in Team Avatar, and Suki’s warriors were just as good. Then in this series, even the weakest Bender is too much for any normal person. Bah.

Oh, gods, now I have “Leaves From The Vine” in my head and I’m tearing up. One of the top 3 cry-ingest episodes of TV ever for me(along with Jurassic Bark and Coach’s Daughter)

I don’t deny that it made sense, I just found it unsatisfying. I have no issue with the Avatar State, or Aang restoring her powers. I just object to the “no powers :frowning: Nevermind! :)” way it went.

I have to say, I was really, really hoping that Amon would have graduated from the Ty Lee school of asskicking. I was really felt that his chi-blocking powers would have been an interesting extension of Ty Lee’s temporary ability to do the same.

A lot of the complaints about Korra seem to be caused by how short it was, thus the lack of proper development. Was it ever said why they made it so short? It never made any sense to me because TLAB was SO popular, it was a given that Korra would be as well.