Rush Limbaugh stealthily inducted into Hall of Famous Missourians.

[Sicks Ate]

Missouri House GOP members managed to induct Limbaugh, apparently with nobody being aware of it until it was time. Needless to say, Democrats are in somewhat of a furor.

While you may argue that Limbaugh is indeed famous, consider who he is in company with now. From the story:

As a member of the Hall of Famous Missourians, Limbaugh will have a bronze bust displayed in the Capitol alongside the likes of President Harry Truman, Mark Twain, Walt Disney, George Washington Carver and Stan Musial.

Coming this close on the heels of his most recent foot-in-mouth scandal, I can only imagine that this will hurt the Republicans who were behind it. Then again, depending on their district, they may get their own busts installed at the county courthouse.

[elucidator]

Is that why they call Missouri the "Blow Me State"?

[BrainGlutton]

Is this really an Elections-thread topic?

[Sicks Ate]

Originally Posted by BrainGlutton

Is this really an Elections-thread topic?

I wondered as well, but it meets the criteria in the description:

Elections
For discussion of elections and electoral politics, including strategy and tactics, political parties, individual races, political news, and politicians and public figures.

[BrainGlutton]

Originally Posted by Sicks Ate

I wondered as well, but it meets the criteria in the description:

But it would be so much more fun as a Pit thread!

[Sicks Ate]

Originally Posted by BrainGlutton

But it would be so much more fun as a Pit thread!

You know, I considered that as well....

And you're absolutely right. Mod? Forum change, pleezie?

[PandaBear77]

BFD!

[tomndebb]

Per user request:
Off to the Pit.

[Munch]

I was all set to be outraged, and then I figured, "Hey, there's really no difference between Limbaugh being inducted into his native state's Hall of Fame and, say...PT Barnum doing so." And so I looked up Barnum, who apparently grew up in Connecticut. So I then looked up Connecticut's Hall of Fame. Know who was inducted into their inaugural class? Mark Fucking Twain. I figure with other states trying to poach Missouri's native born sons, it best hold onto the ones no one else wants.

[Stink Fish Pot]

get a grip. It's a state HOF. for people from the state. He's famous. Get over it.

oh, and if the GOP was able to slip this one by the democrats, maybe they could try slipping a budget by them, too.

Actually, if you are that outraged, you should vote out the dems that permitted this atrocity to happen!

[Robot Arm]

Who's paying for this bronze bust?

[saoirse]

Originally Posted by Robot Arm

Who's paying for this bronze bust?

That's what she said.

And by "she" I mean the underage Dominican trafficking victim that Rush bought just before the last time he was arrested on drug charges.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

get a grip. It's a state HOF. for people from the state. He's famous. Get over it.

oh, and if the GOP was able to slip this one by the democrats, maybe they could try slipping a budget by them, too.

Actually, if you are that outraged, you should vote out the dems that permitted this atrocity to happen!

I don't know if anyone has told you this before, but you're kind of a douche.

[The Second Stone]

The used kind.

[RickJay]

Rush Limbaugh is indisputably famous, and he was indisputably born and raised in Missouri, so I'm not sure what the problem could possibly be.

And whatever you might think of him, he's famous for being a successful broadcaster, not for being an axe murderer.

[digs]

Mom, I'm getting that "not fresh feeling"...

[Rhythmdvl]

Originally Posted by Munch

I was all set to be outraged, and then I figured, "Hey, there's really no difference between Limbaugh being inducted into his native state's Hall of Fame and, say...PT Barnum doing so." And so I looked up Barnum, who apparently grew up in Connecticut. So I then looked up Connecticut's Hall of Fame. Know who was inducted into their inaugural class? Mark Fucking Twain. I figure with other states trying to poach Missouri's native born sons, it best hold onto the ones no one else wants.

IIRC, he moved to Connecticut before he was 40, was neighbours with Harriet Beecher Stowe, and lived the rest of his life there.

History, bitches.

[BrainGlutton]

Disney was one who would not object too strongly to Rush's company, I fear . . . if he could stomach the language . . .

[elucidator]

Originally Posted by The Second Stone

The used kind.

"Yes, Officer, I'd like to report a stolen joke. Who's? Well, its mine now!"

[Locrian]

Good. Another reason to avoid bible-belting thumpers and their state of Missouri (or Missour-a).

When states decide to award Truman and a racist pill-popper on the same shelf, I welcome them to secede.

[Dave Hartwick]

Originally Posted by Locrian

Good. Another reason to avoid bible-belting thumpers and their state of Missouri (or Missour-a).

When states decide to award Truman and a racist pill-popper on the same shelf, I welcome them to secede.

Who ordered another extra-large douche? Seems like one was plenty.

[saoirse]

Originally Posted by Rhythmdvl

IIRC, he moved to Connecticut before he was 40, was neighbours with Harriet Beecher Stowe, and lived the rest of his life there.

History, bitches.

Wait, just how old is Limbaugh?

[foolsguinea]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

get a grip. It's a state HOF. for people from the state. He's famous. Get over it.

oh, and if the GOP was able to slip this one by the democrats, maybe they could try slipping a budget by them, too.

Actually, if you are that outraged, you should vote out the dems that permitted this atrocity to happen!

The GOP have a nicely gerrymandered double majority, thanks. The Dem legislators could pretty much stay home and accomplish as much.

[gamerunknown]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

He's famous.

Infamous.

Originally Posted by Locrian

When states decide to award Truman and a racist pill-popper on the same shelf, I welcome them to secede.

Truman was no saint.

[Munch]

Originally Posted by Rhythmdvl

IIRC, he moved to Connecticut before he was 40, was neighbours with Harriet Beecher Stowe, and lived the rest of his life there.

History, bitches.

Well sure - that plus that whole "Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court". But when I think Twain, I think Missouri (and TNG episodes where he hangs out with Whoopi). I just thought it was funny.

[Stink Fish Pot]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

I don't know if anyone has told you this before, but you're kind of a douche.

Nope. And since I don't consider you an element of the set "anyone", I still haven't. *

What do you do, follow me around the board? Speaking of the need to get a life.... Why don't you shut off your computer for a while and go to your state's Hall of Fame.

Let me guess, you live in Missouri... Or perhaps you are just the asshole most folks on the board think you are.

Wait a minute. Let me put you back on ignore. There, that's better. (no, really... it IS better)

Now wank away, fuckstick. The only thing your pointless comments will bother now is your keyboard.

* - Lobohan's official "I'm being a prick, but this is my "I was just kidding, can't you take a joke?"" smilie.

[Stink Fish Pot]

Originally Posted by gamerunknown

Infamous.



Truman was no saint.

Interesting link on Truman. Thanks for posting that.


Infamous? In what way? He's not Pol Pot. He's a conservative talking head. Just how are you defining Infamous?

[gamerunknown]

Well, as someone that lives in the UK, the only publicity I've seen for him has been negative.

[Rhythmdvl]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

Infamous? In what way? He's not Pol Pot. He's a conservative talking head. Just how are you defining Infamous?

The halls of logic and political discourse have been ravaged by a troop of shit-flinging monkeys and vomited upon by diseased vultures. The doors may have been cracked by predecessors, I'll (Bob) Grant you that, but the malignant depravities he forced upon rational thought and discussion would make Zed blush.


(only mildly tongue and cheek)

[Eve]

. . . and yet Jean Harlow is not in the Hall of Famous Missourians. Her bust would be worth seeing!

[Stink Fish Pot]

Originally Posted by Rhythmdvl

The halls of logic and political discourse have been ravaged by a troop of shit-flinging monkeys and vomited upon by diseased vultures. The doors may have been cracked by predecessors, I'll (Bob) Grant you that, but the malignant depravities he forced upon rational thought and discussion would make Zed blush.


(only mildly tongue and cheek)

Well, I certainly can't argue with that!

[dngnb8]

Originally Posted by BrainGlutton

Disney was one who would not object too strongly to Rush's company, I fear . . . if he could stomach the language . . .

LOL too funny

[Stink Fish Pot]

Here's a serious question for those anti Rush being in the Missouri HOF:

Should it be a popularity contest? Right now, it sounds like the state legislature puts people in, correct? If you turn something like this political, you are going to see people being banned for being in the wrong political party.

That makes no sense to me. Rush may not be a great human being in your mind, but is that what he is being judged on? He, to me anyway, is an entertainer pure and simple. And I find him no more abrasive than someone like James Carville. But, I wouldn't keep Carvelle out of whatever state HOF he'd be considered for (Ark?) because I can't stand him personally.

Maybe open the voting up to the entire state, and have them vote each November for whoever makes the preliminary ballot.

[dngnb8]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

Here's a serious question for those anti Rush being in the Missouri HOF:

Should it be a popularity contest? Right now, it sounds like the state legislature puts people in, correct? If you turn something like this political, you are going to see people being banned for being in the wrong political party.

That makes no sense to me. Rush may not be a great human being in your mind, but is that what he is being judged on? He, to me anyway, is an entertainer pure and simple. And I find him no more abrasive than someone like James Carville. But, I wouldn't keep Carvelle out of whatever state HOF he'd be considered for (Ark?) because I can't stand him personally.

Maybe open the voting up to the entire state, and have them vote each November for whoever makes the preliminary ballot.

If Hall of Fames were based on character, most would be empty

[Una Persson]

Originally Posted by Sicks Ate

Missouri House GOP members managed to induct Limbaugh, apparently with nobody being aware of it until it was time. Needless to say, Democrats are in somewhat of a furor.

Rush is a timbertool but there was no "stealth" about this. It's been one of the top news items on radio and TV for weeks here in Missouri and Kansas, as well as a frequent topic on talk radio and talk TV shows such as "Ruckus."

[kaylasdad99]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

Nope. And since I don't consider you an element of the set "anyone", I still haven't. *

What do you do, follow me around the board? Speaking of the need to get a life.... Why don't you shut off your computer for a while and go to your state's Hall of Fame.

Let me guess, you live in Missouri... Or perhaps you are just the asshole most folks on the board think you are.

Wait a minute. Let me put you back on ignore. There, that's better. (no, really... it IS better)

Now wank away, fuckstick. The only thing your pointless comments will bother now is your keyboard.

* - Lobohan's official "I'm being a prick, but this is my "I was just kidding, can't you take a joke?"" smilie.

For some reason I'm feeling the desire to have spaghetti carbonara for lunch...

[BubbaDog]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

Here's a serious question for those anti Rush being in the Missouri HOF:

Should it be a popularity contest? [snip]

No, but apparently it is now. It should be based on merit.

There are other Missourians and former Missourians who have done more in entertainment, philanthropy, arts and science. So the Missouri Legislature picks a talk show host?

[Rhythmdvl]

First... timbertool? Wasn't that one of the regular features in Highlights magazine? I'd think Goofus and Gallant would be more appropriate.

Second, though I loathe the, uh, timbertool, and find his contributions to society absolutely repugnant, it is possible to observe that he has a vast listening base, particularly in the south (yes, south--a slave state and nominally aligned with the confederacy), and has advanced a political cause further than most politicians could do on their own. He is and has been a major party player for what, twenty years at least? His fans certainly think him HoF worthy, and though I'd like to tweak the statue's nose, see why he'd be admitted.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Stink Fish Pot

Nope. And since I don't consider you an element of the set "anyone", I still haven't. *

What do you do, follow me around the board? Speaking of the need to get a life.... Why don't you shut off your computer for a while and go to your state's Hall of Fame.

Let me guess, you live in Missouri... Or perhaps you are just the asshole most folks on the board think you are.

Wait a minute. Let me put you back on ignore. There, that's better. (no, really... it IS better)

Now wank away, fuckstick. The only thing your pointless comments will bother now is your keyboard.

* - Lobohan's official "I'm being a prick, but this is my "I was just kidding, can't you take a joke?"" smilie.

Are you trying to get a rise out of me, detective?

Do I follow you around the board? When was the last time I responded to you, like a month ago?

In any case, I was pointing out that you were being histrionic.

[Blaster Master]

I am not by any means a fan of Rush Limbaugh, but this seems to me sort of like a Pete Rose discussion. Purely on the grounds of fame or success in his field as a broadcaster, there is no doubt that he is one of the most famous and most successful of this generation, and based on that alone, I don't think anyone would dispute he would belong in just about any state's hall of fame. The issue arises when you start evaluating his personal life and views and that it definitely is an integral part of his impact on his field, just as Pete Rose's betting affected his.

The problem here is that there isn't any sort of universal rule or principle that will say that his views and message are inherently negative. Those who share his perspective will think that much more of his accomplishments and those who disagree with his perspective will think less of them. So I don't think it's fair to punish him for simply disagreeing with him, particularly since it's important to minimize politics, even if a figure politics figure largely in a person's contributions. For instance, regardless of your feelings for various presidents, I'd think every single one rightfully deserves a place in his home state's hall of fame.

That said, I would say that there could be a legitimate case against him for situations of actively lying or creating excessive controversy or whatnot, but even a lot of that is difficult to filter out from his political message.

Either way, I don't think putting him in the hall of fame diminishes the accomplishments of others in there. There's a subjective minimum to get in, but there's no tiers after that. And though I'm not a fan of his, I think he meets that minimum requirement accounting for the issues I disagree with him on.

[Rhythmdvl]

Best Buy is my favorite place to buy histrionics. Tweeter Etc. is for girls.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Rhythmdvl

Best Buy is my favorite place to buy histrionics. Tweeter Etc. is for girls.

Obsolescence happens so fast in histrionics, I rent mine at the Rent-to-Own place across from the Payday Check Casher and the Doughnut Shop.

[John Mace]

They have a Democratic governor named Nixon? Is this some sort of bizzaro state, or what?

[dngnb8]

Originally Posted by Rhythmdvl

First... timbertool? Wasn't that one of the regular features in Highlights magazine?

Timbertoes?

[dngnb8]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Are you trying to get a rise out of me, detective?

Batman?

[bup]

Originally Posted by dngnb8

Timbertoes?

Weren't they people made of wood who went around with saws and cut things up? For some reason I find that creepier than a cartoon pig making pork barbecue.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by dngnb8

Batman?

Verbal Kint. Who might actually also be Batman.

[Cumberdale]

He has left a mark in talk radio and helped give AM radio new life. I don't feel it is a good one, but many people disagree with me.

To get a bit sidetracked, for me he ruined talk radio. Before he burst onto the scene I used to listen to local talk shows broadcast from Dallas. They had a good mix of from right wing to moderate to liberal. Also the hosts would actually interview other people, musicians, authors etc. and discuss local along with national and international issues. After Rush you pretty much only get far right wing blowhards who only talk and occasionally answer phones. I really miss the old shows and stopped listening years ago when podcasts and mp3 players came about.

[Anne Neville]

Originally Posted by John Mace

They have a Democratic governor named Nixon? Is this some sort of bizzaro state, or what?

They have their own earthquakes, too. But theirs are in the middle of a tectonic plate, not along the edges, so they must be Bizarro earthquakes.

[dngnb8]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

Verbal Kint. Who might actually also be Batman.

Being a fan of Batman, especially the Dark Knight animation, there was a Noiresque series where the character always referred to Batman as detective.

I bet the inspiration came from The Usual Suspects