I hate these new "green" gas cans.

[Crafter_Man]

The new, plastic, five gallon gas cans are shit.

The one I bought last summer worked up until a month ago. The stupid thump switch thing on the spout decided to break.

I went out and bought another one. Different design... you had to twist and pull back the nozzle to pour gas. Broke the first time I used it. I eventually got so frustrated that I rammed a rod inside the nozzle just to keep the flap valve open.

A few days ago I was at Tractor Supply and decided to buy yet another gas can. Similar design to the second can; you had to twist and pull back the nozzle to pour gas. I did this, and then lifted it up to fill my mower. Gasoline poured out of the locking mechanism and all over my hand and the tractor. What a piece of shit.

I wanna a fucking normal gas can with a fucking tube nozzle and fucking screw cap. And I want it fucking now.

[Morgenstern]

I'll bet it's due to the EPA (or CARB for that matter). If you really want to live dangerously, could you buy a funnel and not use the fancy filler neck that comes with the can? Of course, that might make you a wanted person with a price on your head, but at least you'll get your yard mowed.

[Cheesesteak]

Mine has a thumb lock and a valve, so I have to upend the can over my tank with one hand, unlock it with the other hand, and depress the valve with the third hand I have growing out of my chest.

[Crafter_Man]

With the money I've spent on cheap-piece-o-shit gas cans over the past year, I could have bought this. Am placing an order for one today.

[Una Persson]

The green gas can we bought has a spring in the end so stiff it's almost impossible for either of us to use it. And yes it does spill gasoline all over us. It actually releases far more VOCs via spilt gas than it could possibly prevent by its closing action. They're a supreme piece of shit.

[Ravenman]

Heartily endorse this pitting. I favor most green initiatives -- tax plastic bags? Go for it! Penalize people for not recycling? Get those slackers! Low-flow toilets? They actually work fine, you Neanderthal water-wasters. And so on and so on.

But these new gas cans? Im-fucking-possible to use. No human can simultaneously push, twist, pull, yank, squeeze, pinch, tilt, and fingerbang these gas cans to dispense fuel safely and cleanly. I have never been able to pour gas out of one without some kind of spill.

Fuck that.

[skylyn12]

100% hear you on this! These new cans are terrible, you spill gas all over, get gas all over your hands, etc. How is this better? I ditched mine and got some old fashioned ones from a flea market. They close tightly and pour perfectly.

[purplehorseshoe]

Originally Posted by Crafter_Man

With the money I've spent on cheap-piece-o-shit gas cans over the past year, I could have bought this. Am placing an order for one today.

Dang, that thing ain't cheap. Let us know how it works for you.

[enipla]

I've never heard of this. Anybody got a link?

[Ravenman]

Originally Posted by enipla

I've never heard of this. Anybody got a link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_UMDpJbvTQ

Look around the 28 second mark or the 1:15 mark.

[enipla]

Originally Posted by Ravenman

Look around the 28 second mark or the 1:15 mark.

Thanks. And holy crap.

I feed both my tractor and plow truck out of 5 gallon cans. I have NO problem not spilling. Those new spouts look like absolute overdesigned garbage.

They really look like they restrict the flow of the fuel quite a bit with that auto shut off type spout. It's already not too fun to stand out in the cold holding up 40 lbs of fuel while I pour it in. Now I'm gonna have to do it longer.

[TriPolar]

Originally Posted by Crafter_Man

With the money I've spent on cheap-piece-o-shit gas cans over the past year, I could have bought this. Am placing an order for one today.

Definitely gonna get one of those. Well worth the money.

[kayaker]

We have a few old fashioned cans, but some gas stations refuse to allow them. So, we fill up a couple "green" cans, come home, and use a funnel to fill the old cans.

[August West]

Jesus, I thought I was an idiot because I've spilled twenty times as much gasoline with my "no-spill" gas can than I ever did with a normal one.

Glad to know it is a design issue and not just me.

[Wheelz]

Originally Posted by Crafter_Man

With the money I've spent on cheap-piece-o-shit gas cans over the past year, I could have bought this. Am placing an order for one today.

This is exactly what I picture when I think "gas can". I bought one like it about 20 years ago and have never had the need to get another one.

Glad to see they still make 'em.

[Really Not All That Bright]

I have a cheapo one that's apparently called a Blitz Enviroflo. It's worked for three years, and requires only one hand to operate - thumb switch > squeeze black palm trigger thing > gas comes out.

[drewtwo99]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

I have a cheapo one that's apparently called a Blitz Enviroflo. It's worked for three years, and requires only one hand to operate - thumb switch > squeeze black palm trigger thing > gas comes out.

I must have the same style. It's simple, it's safe, no spills to report so far.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Originally Posted by kayaker

We have a few old fashioned cans, but some gas stations refuse to allow them.

Wow...really? Do you live in a state that doesn't allow self-serve gas? Because in my neck of the woods, its impossible for me to imagine the fat lady in the glass-encased cubicle at the center of the station noticing (or caring) about some guy at the far pump filling his old-timey gas can with prepaid gasoline.

And even if you do live in such a state, what law exists that prevents you from using them? I mean, all gas stations have those signs about "dispensing fuel into inappropriate/unapproved containers"...but its a GAS CAN, you know, a device designed for transporting smaller amounts of gasoline, not a styrofoam cooler!

[Giraffe]

Agree 100% with the OP. What especially frustrates me is that I can only ever find the uber-cheapo plastic shit cans and nothing else. Does no one make something in between the $9.99 will-break-immediately and the $100 metal-can-from-the-1920's linked by Crafter_man? Complex valves and cheap plastic shit from China are generally not a winning combination, but that's literally all I can find at any of the hardware stores in my area. It's vexing.

[tomndebb]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

I have a cheapo one that's apparently called a Blitz Enviroflo. It's worked for three years, and requires only one hand to operate - thumb switch > squeeze black palm trigger thing > gas comes out.

Three years ago was prior to the most recent change.

Bitz has had to retire that line, replacing it with one of the newer pieces of trash.

[kayaker]

Originally Posted by FoieGrasIsEvil

Wow...really? Do you live in a state that doesn't allow self-serve gas? Because in my neck of the woods, its impossible for me to imagine the fat lady in the glass-encased cubicle at the center of the station noticing (or caring) about some guy at the far pump filling his old-timey gas can with prepaid gasoline.

And even if you do live in such a state, what law exists that prevents you from using them? I mean, all gas stations have those signs about "dispensing fuel into inappropriate/unapproved containers"...but its a GAS CAN, you know, a device designed for transporting smaller amounts of gasoline, not a styrofoam cooler!

We have self serve in PA, but the closest gas to our house is full service and run by a madman. Our lawn tractor uses diesel, and he would not put diesel into a regular gas can. I bought a yellow diesel can specifically to make gassing up easier.

[GargoyleWB]

Originally Posted by August West

...
Glad to know it is a design issue and not just me.

Yep. Every weekend the outside of my mower, my shoes, pant cuffs, and hands get soaked in gas. I'm honestly just going to enlarge the air vent to pour out of, and use the spout as the air venting.

[SmellMyWort]

I heartily endorse this pitting; those things truely suck. Think you can fill your mower without a funnel? Not unless you're down to the last 1/4 of the can because if there is any gas in the nozel when you pull open that sleeve it gushes right out and the stopper makes is spray over everything, including your hands and the nozel sleeve, making it slippery so you lose your grip and it snaps closed, spraying even more gas around, hopefully not on your face. Joke's on you, asshole.

[Astroboy14]

Originally Posted by Ravenman

... simultaneously push, twist, pull, yank, squeeze, pinch, tilt, and fingerbang these...

I am so turned on right now.

[johnpost]

if you are using a 5 gal. can and filling a tractor/truck/auto i have seen spouts which open with pressure on a hook on the end. it does open easier with pulling the spout back with your hand but will stay open with spout pressure on the filler neck. hoist can, rest spout hook on top edge of filler neck, pull spout back, use both hands on can to press spout forward into filler neck and to tip can. works OK on an angled filler of a auto/truck, might be tricky on a vertical filler of a tractor.

[Cheesesteak]

BTW, thanks to this thread, I now know that OSHA approved metal safety containers, like the Eagle Crafter Man is buying, are exempt from the new laws.

[Hbns]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

Does no one make something in between the $9.99 will-break-immediately and the $100 metal-can-from-the-1920's linked by Crafter_man?

I've had pretty good luck with No-Spill brand products. They run about double the cheapo prices, but the bigger problem I have had is trying to find them. They are pretty rare to see in a store.

I use the 1 1/4 gallon for filling the lawn mower and weed trimmer. The valve works pretty darn good and lets you not only stop the flow, but regulate it. Handy for filling the small tanks on yard tools.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Hbns

I've had pretty good luck with No-Spill brand products. They run about double the cheapo prices, but the bigger problem I have had is trying to find them. They are pretty rare to see in a store.

Thank you! It's on Amazon, so I'll probably pick one up the next time I order something.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by tomndebb

Three years ago was prior to the most recent change.

Bitz has had to retire that line, replacing it with one of the newer pieces of trash.

Huh. Maybe I should put mine on eBay or something.

[ZipperJJ]

Huh...my 1-gallon container has the stupid turn-hold-spill spout, and it's brutal for filling up my trimmer.

My 5-gallon containers I bought well after the 1-gallon and they have the palm switch head like RNATB describes. They are sort of a pain because they empty very slowly and can't be used in a car (although his link shows there's an adapter. Woohoo!) but I always thought they were the solution that came out AFTER the stupid spill-y ones.

Thanks for the NoSpill info - I might replace my 1-gallon with it!

I also never realized they were "green" - I thought it was all about safety. Except I wasn't sure how spilling gas all over yourself and your patio was safer.

[johnpost]

Originally Posted by ZipperJJ

I also never realized they were "green" - I thought it was all about safety. Except I wasn't sure how spilling gas all over yourself and your patio was safer.

it is both. safety standards for accidental spills or leaky vapor came during the same time period as new safety standards.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Originally Posted by ZipperJJ

I also never realized they were "green" - I thought it was all about safety. Except I wasn't sure how spilling gas all over yourself and your patio was safer.

It is only if you also happen to be smoking at the same time.

[zoltar7]

You may want to google "5 gallon utility jug". Be sure not to use them as portable fuel containers in those states that require spill proof systems.

[Zeriel]

Originally Posted by johnpost

if you are using a 5 gal. can and filling a tractor/truck/auto i have seen spouts which open with pressure on a hook on the end. it does open easier with pulling the spout back with your hand but will stay open with spout pressure on the filler neck. hoist can, rest spout hook on top edge of filler neck, pull spout back, use both hands on can to press spout forward into filler neck and to tip can. works OK on an angled filler of a auto/truck, might be tricky on a vertical filler of a tractor.

I have a couple of 1gal cans as you've described, and they work like a charm for me, too.

On the other hand, they stink up my storage shed just as bad as the old-fashioned kind, so I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to have gained here.

[kanicbird]

Originally Posted by zoltar7

You may want to google "5 gallon utility jug". Be sure not to use them as portable fuel containers in those states that require spill proof systems.

I love this along with the heat globes in areas where IC lightbulbs are banned.

I got a few gas cans with the first round of spill proof systems, they pour slow and they suck, but now glad I have them as these seem much worse.

[The Niply Elder]

Originally Posted by Morgenstern

I'll bet it's due to the EPA (or CARB for that matter). If you really want to live dangerously, could you buy a funnel and not use the fancy filler neck that comes with the can? Of course, that might make you a wanted person with a price on your head, but at least you'll get your yard mowed.

But why is it the fault of the EPA? It seems to me that its just shitty design, not that the requirements are so uber 23rd century advanced that we cant handle it without unobtanium cock-and-ball valves.

[RTFirefly]

Originally Posted by August West

Jesus, I thought I was an idiot because I've spilled twenty times as much gasoline with my "no-spill" gas can than I ever did with a normal one.

Glad to know it is a design issue and not just me.

No, it's not just you.

I got one of these several years ago, and like you, in the year or so I tried to use it, I spilled more gas than I've spilled in the entire rest of my life. And like Cheesesteak, I think could manage it OK if I only had a third hand, but even then it would be a lot of work.

I think the legislators who mandated this piece of shit should be required to go around their districts and give tutorials on how to use the damned things. Once they spilled enough gas on their shoes to ruin a few pair, they'd repeal this requirement in a hurry.

[congodwarf]

Originally Posted by Hbns

I've had pretty good luck with No-Spill brand products. They run about double the cheapo prices, but the bigger problem I have had is trying to find them. They are pretty rare to see in a store.

I second the No-Spill. We just got one last weekend and it's perfect. It doesn't leak and it only requires one hand to pour/press (unless you need the second hand to help lift the can).

I got mine at Rocky's Ace Hardware in Palmer MA. It was with the Stihl power tools - about 4 aisles away from the shitty leaky "green" gas cans.

[littlespeedysuperbike]

You need a Scribner "dirtbike jug".

5 gallons, 10 seconds full to empty (modified)

http://pitstopusa.com/i-5075601-scri...low-green.html