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Old 08-08-2012, 07:50 PM
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Oppa Gangnam Style - awesome Korean music video

I had to share this. I love this video.

Oppa Gangnam Style
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:53 PM
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It's pretty lovely, in an Ooga-Chaka way; a friend linked to it on FB a few days ago, and I still get a giant grin whenever I think about it.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:38 PM
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I think this makes the Korean war worth it.
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:21 AM
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Ha! Thanks for sharing, loved it.
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:34 AM
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It's the West End Girls of Korea.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:36 AM
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That was definitely the funniest thing I've seen all morning. ^_^

Thanks for posting it!
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:40 AM
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I love the guy. He's so cocky and confident, and look at him gyrate!
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:14 AM
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Open condom style.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:25 AM
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The director should win an award. The scenes are very random, funny, and somehow still fit with the style.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:44 AM
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The director should win an award. The scenes are very random, funny, and somehow still fit with the style.
Yeah it was fun making a list of stuff that was going on as the song went on.

- Hot dancing toddler
- Horse stables
- More dancing toddler
- Paper shredding facility?
- Old guys playing board game in field

etc

I put it out on Twitter that the Indians' awesome Korean right fielder should change his intro music to that song!
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:08 AM
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And he doesn't even stop singing when he's ON THE TOILET!
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:59 PM
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It's Kanye East!
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:23 PM
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215 million + views on youtube, and he has now made the talk show circuit in the states and is rumored to be collaborating with Justin Beiber and Brittany Spears (I can't say much for his taste in American artists but whatev).

I also heard this today on a popular local radio station here in Memphis which plays top 40 dance music. I was shocked to say the least, to hear a foreign language song, let alone a Korean one on Memphis radio was pretty cool.

**On a side note I think it is amusing when people who aren't familiar with Kpop are amazed at Psy's English. Two clicks on Google and you find out he was educated in the states while attending college in California.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:45 PM
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The Indians' right fielder has finally changed his music. Just this week, I think. Surely due to my insistence!
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:39 AM
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I just saw this video for the first time a few days ago to see what the hype was. It's quite a catchy song, and amazing how it's gone viral.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:46 AM
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For those that are wondering, it's apparently actually a really clever, subtle satire of Korean culture, specifically of both the residents of the Gangnam District of Seoul (think Korea's version of Beverly Hills) and the people who really want to be a part of it without actually knowing what being "Gangnam Style" entails.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...sation/261462/

And yes, it's also really catchy.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:54 AM
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Here's CNN coverage of Psy's new viral hit.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:55 AM
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Also, there's also an official version that's (vaguely) from the girl at the end's perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNt...feature=relmfu

It's basically the song: Extreme Cheesecake Edition.

And apparently that girl is mimicking a Gangnam accent (think "doing a Valley Girl voice"), and doesn't normally sound so squeaky.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:54 AM
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A dance craze. What joy.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:29 AM
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I'm ashamed to say I have no idea how many views I've contributed towards the total, but it's quite a large number. I cannot, apparently, stop watching this.

And now I have some friends who are similarly addicted. Mwa-hahahahaahah!
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:25 AM
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Also, there's also an official version that's (vaguely) from the girl at the end's perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNt...feature=relmfu

It's basically the song: Extreme Cheesecake Edition.

And apparently that girl is mimicking a Gangnam accent (think "doing a Valley Girl voice"), and doesn't normally sound so squeaky.
There isn't really such a thing as a Gangnam accent. Koreans girls in general will do a squeaky girly voice if they are trying to be cute, but speaking like that wouldn't have people thinking you're from Gangnam.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:56 AM
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There isn't really such a thing as a Gangnam accent. Koreans girls in general will do a squeaky girly voice if they are trying to be cute, but speaking like that wouldn't have people thinking you're from Gangnam.
*Shrug* it's what an acquaintance living in Korea said, they probably were simplifying it for me. I do get the impression, at least, that the stereotype is that girls from Gangnam are stereotypically rich and ditzy so they speak like that, even if it's not the stereotype that ONLY Gangnam girls talk like that (i.e. most Gangnam girls talk like that but not all girls that talk like that are from Gangnam).

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Old 09-19-2012, 12:22 PM
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Is there a way I can remove the vocals (which I admit do contribute to the surreal awesomeness of the song)? The beat all by itself would be really good for jamming out to if for some reason I'm not in the mood for Korean lyrics.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:36 PM
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Moved MPSIMS --> Cafe Society. (Apparently the vid has a beat you can move to ....)
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:40 PM
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It's been interesting to me, seeing him being put out there as a huge pop artist from Korea, when the reality is he's a comedian from Korea. Apparently he does sketch comedy, and this grew from that.

Either way, he's awesome. And EVERYWHERE right now. He was on SNL last weekend, for crying out loud.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:44 PM
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Um, ok, a techno disco type beat? Don't know the lingo. Anyway it's got a good beat, I could dance to it, if I could dance. The video is amusing. Apparently it's social commentary. Anyone know what the words are (the ones that aren't in English) (but in English, I don't speak Korean)?
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:49 PM
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Is there a way I can remove the vocals (which I admit do contribute to the surreal awesomeness of the song)? The beat all by itself would be really good for jamming out to if for some reason I'm not in the mood for Korean lyrics.
If you type karaoke after the name...

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Old 09-19-2012, 01:52 PM
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It's been interesting to me, seeing him being put out there as a huge pop artist from Korea, when the reality is he's a comedian from Korea. Apparently he does sketch comedy, and this grew from that.

Either way, he's awesome. And EVERYWHERE right now. He was on SNL last weekend, for crying out loud.
Really? I read that this is his 6th album.

I too can't stop watching it. Apparently the dancing kid was on Korea's Got Talent and most of the others are stars in Korea. The two old guys playing chess, the guy in the dance duel and the guy in the elevator are all Korean stars.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:09 PM
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God damn, here's his Wikipedia article.

Inner Stickler: Thank you for that linkage. Got me some jams for the day!
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:10 PM
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It's been interesting to me, seeing him being put out there as a huge pop artist from Korea, when the reality is he's a comedian from Korea. Apparently he does sketch comedy, and this grew from that.

Either way, he's awesome. And EVERYWHERE right now. He was on SNL last weekend, for crying out loud.
Really? I read that this is his 6th album.

I too can't stop watching it. Apparently the dancing kid was on Korea's Got Talent and most of the others are stars in Korea. The two old guys playing chess, the guy in the dance duel and the guy in the elevator are all Korean stars.
Psy is, in fact, a huge pop star, not a comedian. His first album came out over 11 years ago. He has a history of satirizing and skewering the culture around him, which has caused some controversy (he paid fines for his first two albums lyrical content and saw their sales restricted to adults only, for instance). He has won numerous SBS awards (Seoul Broadcasting System) even tho none of his songs charted until 2010. He's been on numerous Korean game shows and was a judge on the talent show Superstar K. Psy's actually quite a brilliant and revolutionary force in Korea, as he uses his Berklee education to shatter quite a few stereotypes and conventions that are ingrained in his home country; as he puts it, he is not following the K-pop mold.

Cite. And cite.

ETA: Oh yeah, Gangnam Style totally fucking rocks. The whole album is actually very good, and has some pretty cool packaging. No word yet on when part 2 of Psy 6 is due tho.

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Old 09-19-2012, 02:15 PM
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I just heard this last week from my son. I can't decide what I love more, the dancing or the locations. I love the MC Hammer shorts!
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:23 PM
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I just heard this last week from my son. I can't decide what I love more, the dancing or the locations. I love the MC Hammer shorts!
Yeah my 13yo son always shows me his new music as he did with this, Skrillex, LMFAO etc etc I return the favor by making him listen to a bit of Iron Maiden, Elvis or Metallica...........Gotta say I do like this song, very funny
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:25 PM
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Um, ok, a techno disco type beat? Don't know the lingo. Anyway it's got a good beat, I could dance to it, if I could dance. The video is amusing. Apparently it's social commentary. Anyone know what the words are (the ones that aren't in English) (but in English, I don't speak Korean)?
It's not really social commentary, despite what that Atlantic article says. It's just a song about a guy who wants to date a Gangnam girl because she's classy during the day but a party girl at night (like the Gangnam area itself, according to the song). I suppose you could take that as commentary about the hypocrisy of Korean society in general. The music video itself parodies typical Korean music videos that like to make Seoul look like some glamorous and opulent city.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:41 PM
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I dunno, I think that if you read between the lines and look at it in the context of the video, there's a bit of social commentary in there. Korean culture is pretty notoriously obsessed with image, and much of the video and lyrics focus, as you say, on the sort of hypocrisy of respectable image vs Westernized go crazy and party image. Whatever it is, it's interesting to see so many people in America going nuts over this song. It's like every day I open my Facebook, there are 10 new parody videos posted on the feed.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:00 AM
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It's not really social commentary, despite what that Atlantic article says. It's just a song about a guy who wants to date a Gangnam girl because she's classy during the day but a party girl at night (like the Gangnam area itself, according to the song). I suppose you could take that as commentary about the hypocrisy of Korean society in general. The music video itself parodies typical Korean music videos that like to make Seoul look like some glamorous and opulent city.
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I dunno, I think that if you read between the lines and look at it in the context of the video, there's a bit of social commentary in there. Korean culture is pretty notoriously obsessed with image, and much of the video and lyrics focus, as you say, on the sort of hypocrisy of respectable image vs Westernized go crazy and party image. Whatever it is, it's interesting to see so many people in America going nuts over this song. It's like every day I open my Facebook, there are 10 new parody videos posted on the feed.
Oh, there's social commentary, alright.

Just look at the catchy chorus: "Oppa is Gangnam style". Oppa is a pretty loaded word. In particular, it's what a woman calls an older man that she has no romantic interest in: "older brother". It is friendly but places a clear demarcation that there is a line that will not be crossed; i.e. she is unattainable to him. Korean culture has a social structure that includes being heavily restricted by age/peer groups from what I've read and ISTM that's a large part of what this song is poking at.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:37 AM
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Whoa. Oppa is what ALL girls call ALL older men, regardless of whether she is interested in them or not. It can have clearly sexual connotations, depending on how you say it.

ETA: okay, not all older men, but oppa hints at a pretty close relationship. At this age (30) I would not call any new male acquaintances oppa, but when I was in university, I called all my older male friends oppa including - actually, ESPECIALLY - my boyfriends. Guys in Korea LOVE to be called oppa by a girl they like.

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Old 09-20-2012, 07:43 AM
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My boyfriend's contribution: "I've seen a lot of Korean porn where the girl is getting pounded while calling the dude oppa."
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:20 AM
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I like the dancing. Ride the horse, rope the cow...my problem is I ride the cow and try to rope the horse...

I wonder if Sun on 'Lost' was from the Gangnam district, her father was quite wealthy.

(some years ago before the cable company moved it to another tier on TV, they used to show quite a few Korean music videos, and we just grew addicted. They had a whole slew of performers singing in Korean, and some of them were based on Western boy bands, female Shakira and Sheryl Crow types, moody balladeers, and so on. I especially enjoyed the hip-hop Koreans and the bad-ass 'gangsta rappers' strutting down the mean streets dressed in the latest fashions, with cute styled hair.)
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:31 AM
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I like the dancing. Ride the horse, rope the cow...my problem is I ride the cow and try to rope the horse...

I wonder if Sun on 'Lost' was from the Gangnam district, her father was quite wealthy.

(some years ago before the cable company moved it to another tier on TV, they used to show quite a few Korean music videos, and we just grew addicted. They had a whole slew of performers singing in Korean, and some of them were based on Western boy bands, female Shakira and Sheryl Crow types, moody balladeers, and so on. I especially enjoyed the hip-hop Koreans and the bad-ass 'gangsta rappers' strutting down the mean streets dressed in the latest fashions, with cute styled hair.)

I used to stay up late to catch the Korean music video countdown on the international channel when I was in high school. Sucks that we don't get cable now and that the international channel doesn't show that anymore as far as I know. But I could be wrong. Anyone know or remember what that countdown show was called, because I could always search for it is I know the name of it.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:33 AM
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Gangnam is for the nouveau riche; I imagine Sun was from old money. Most of the old money families actually live north of the river. Gangnam literally means south of the river, but it can also be used to a specific area around Gangnam Station, which ironically is nowhere close to being classy, day or night.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:02 AM
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Gangnam is for the nouveau riche; I imagine Sun was from old money. Most of the old money families actually live north of the river. Gangnam literally means south of the river, but it can also be used to a specific area around Gangnam Station, which ironically is nowhere close to being classy, day or night.
Interesting that they used the borrowed Chinese word for "South".

I had never heard of this guy until I saw the SNL skit last week. What a hoot.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:50 PM
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I'm ashamed to say I have no idea how many views I've contributed towards the total, but it's quite a large number. I cannot, apparently, stop watching this.

And now I have some friends who are similarly addicted. Mwa-hahahahaahah!
It is, quite simply, the most awesome music video ever made, in any genre
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:54 PM
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It's not really social commentary, despite what that Atlantic article says. It's just a song about a guy who wants to date a Gangnam girl because she's classy during the day but a party girl at night (like the Gangnam area itself, according to the song). I suppose you could take that as commentary about the hypocrisy of Korean society in general. The music video itself parodies typical Korean music videos that like to make Seoul look like some glamorous and opulent city.
Well, even The Atlantic article admits that the satire comes from the music video much more than the lyrics. Though they do point out the somewhat odd line about slamming down an entire cup of coffee while it's still hot possibly parodying "tough guy" posturing -- unless that's a real tough guy thing in Korea.

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Interesting that they used the borrowed Chinese word for "South".

I had never heard of this guy until I saw the SNL skit last week. What a hoot.
I'm not surprised at all, I think Korea is a bit better about it than Japan, but I think they have a large number of Chinese loan words. I do understand that Korean education at least in some small part relies on learning certain amounts of Chinese characters for use idiomatically (I'm not sure on the particulars, maybe Hazelnut can chime in). In fact, on Psy's own sixth album cover, there's a Chinese character on it in the title (甲) which means "armor" or "best" in some contexts (like this one -- but in general, even in Japanese it can means things like "top in rank")
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:24 AM
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They have been playing this song way too frequently on our local pop/rock station.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:28 AM
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Korean does use a lot of classic Chinese characters. In middle school and high school we had a "Chinese Character" class, which is kind of like Latin for English speakers I suppose.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:14 PM
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http://mashable.com/2012/09/21/gangn...-world-record/

Broke LMFAOs record for most-liked Youtube video.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:29 PM
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Open condom style.
This song cries out to be Buffalaxed, right?

"Heeeeeeeeyyyy sex-filled lady! Op-op-open condom style!"
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:32 PM
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I love this song and the music video. I don't know how much I've listened to it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:56 PM
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I stand corrected. This is what I get for reading YouTube comments, and not fact checking on my own.

Still, awesome song. Epic video. And Psy seems so dang nice!
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:11 PM
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Well now I've watched and listened to this video so much I think I'm beginning to understand Korean. What does it say on that banner in the beginning? What is that horse saying at the end?
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