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Old 12-11-2012, 09:22 PM
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How do I turn Safe Search off on Google?

Seems locked. My laptop, nobody else uses it. I've not altered any settings. And yet the Safe Search is on.

The "how to alter Safe Search" links are a feedback loop. There are no options when you click the link to find options.

Quite vexing.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:24 PM
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Go here: http://www.google.com/preferences

There should be a SafeSearch filter section, in which you can disable the setting.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:41 PM
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Go to Bing, and turn off safe search there. I never had the same problem with google with my netbook, but I did with Yahoo images.

As for actual "Thoughts," see if this link takes you to anything useful.

Well, sonofabitch. I just tested that link and now it looks like I don't have a "no filtering" option any more. Way to go, Google!*

Seriously, switch to Bing.






*I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that I just followed NOD32's advice and updated my OS today.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:06 PM
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exactly. there are no more options to change the filter.

I'm a big fan of Google but I have to admit this is stupid.
I have not updated anything that I'm aware of.

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Old 12-12-2012, 01:59 AM
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Once I do a search, the option pops up as a pull-down button on the upper-right corner, just below the "sign in" link. Again, you need to do a search first, before it pops up.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:07 AM
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and that means safe search?
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:11 AM
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In the last couple of years, the UI designers in the Google Conglomerate, including YouTube, Google itself, Gmail (which I don't use), and Blogger, have made the dumbest design decisions I have ever seen in a modern web environment. In their clumsy attempts to monetise they have managed to cripple everything they used to hold up as their genius ideas. It's like they're trying to drive people away.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:41 AM
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and that means safe search?
The safe search button will be set to whatever you had set in the past. If you click the words safe search that appear the checkmark turns on or off to change the setting.

Clicking on the gear symbol produces a drop-down menu that includes "search settings" Click on that and that's the same page as preferences.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:00 AM
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The problem is that Safe Search Off now defaults to what used to be Moderate Safe Search. You can see this if you scroll to the bottom of a search page and click Switch to basic version. The basic version page will say Moderate SafeSearch is On.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:22 AM
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Use Google's Advanced Image Search. (Why would anyone use a search other than advanced anyway?) SafeSearch is an option you can explicitly set on a per-search basis.

I think it defaults to whatever you set in Settings.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:05 AM
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(Why would anyone use a search other than advanced anyway?)
Because they know how to use Google, and don't need to be handheld in enabling other options? You can do it all in the search box. You know, the one that's actually in your browser that doesn't require loading a superfluous page, or two in you case.

Also, there are still only two options on SafeSearch, even in advanced mode.

Google is getting so incredibly stupid. I've progressed to spamming YouTube every day for removing recommended videos and replacing them with the useless "recommended channels" that recommends channels you've already viewed, and thus decided you didn't want to subscribe. I mean, they can barely predict what videos I'd like, and the only saving grace is how many there are. They can't handle coming up with channels I'd like to subscribe to.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:29 AM
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SafeSearch is an option you can explicitly set on a per-search basis.
As noted, the option on that page is still binary; you can only select "Show most relevant results" or "Filter explicit results" - and this does appear to be a recent change, as Google's own Help screen still refers to the three-tiered model (Strict/Moderate/None).
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:33 AM
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Use Google's Advanced Image Search. (Why would anyone use a search other than advanced anyway?) SafeSearch is an option you can explicitly set on a per-search basis.

I think it defaults to whatever you set in Settings.
No. It does not. Going into settings doesn't help, you cannot do anything but click on " Filter Explicit Results " or "Report Offensive Images" or " More About SafeSearch" , which is a feedback loop. I cannot alter the SafeSearch settings or turn them off to allow anything other than the most restricted search results.

Going into Settings for Firefox yields nothing. Logging on and going into Settings for Google do not allow alterations from SafeSearch.

ETA: Tried Advanced Image Search. It does not alter the fact that when you fill in whatever parameters you wish, SafeSearch is still applied.

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Old 12-12-2012, 09:56 AM
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It looks to me like they made it harder to find pornographic images but they're still there. I searched for "fuck" and got pictures that contained the word and people giving the finger to the camera. I searched for "Jenna Jameson" and got pictures of her clothed. I put the two queries together and I got a pop-over telling me that I could enable filtering of explicit results if I wanted to. Dismissing that got me the images you'd expect.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:17 AM
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That's odd cause I am in the Chicago Public Library right now and Google doesn't filter anything. It defaulted to "off," I have to turn it on.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:26 AM
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It looks to me like they made it harder to find pornographic images but they're still there. I searched for "fuck" and got pictures that contained the word and people giving the finger to the camera. I searched for "Jenna Jameson" and got pictures of her clothed. I put the two queries together and I got a pop-over telling me that I could enable filtering of explicit results if I wanted to. Dismissing that got me the images you'd expect.
Interesting. But the filter is still controlled server-side; that is, Google somehow decides whether or not to offer the unexpurgated results based on the query. I wonder what their criteria are; obviously there should be some explicit results for images of "fuck", but they don't even offer them via the pop-over.
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That's odd cause I am in the Chicago Public Library right now and Google doesn't filter anything. It defaulted to "off," I have to turn it on.
I wonder if this is one of those changes that propagates slowly through the system, or if Google is maybe testing changes to their preferences set-up.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:30 AM
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That's odd cause I am in the Chicago Public Library right now and Google doesn't filter anything. It defaulted to "off," I have to turn it on.
My filtering was always off as well. The point I was making is that searches that in the past would have resulted in explicit results now did not. When I did a search that was basically telling Google I really, really wanted to see explicit images it returned those results. The first time I did such a search it gave me the pop-over warning even though I was not filtering results. Any subsequent explicit search did not give me the pop-over.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:49 AM
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It looks to me like they made it harder to find pornographic images
Just what do they think the Internet is for?
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:07 PM
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Just what do they think the Internet is for?
Monetization, of course.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:40 PM
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Go here: http://www.google.com/preferences

There should be a SafeSearch filter section, in which you can disable the setting.
You have to be logged-in for the setting to "stick", BTW. If you're not logged-in to Google, it'll always default to SafeSearch: On
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:19 PM
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Some news stories on this here and here. It's a US-only change so far.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:24 PM
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Google.co.uk still gives you the same old options.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:24 PM
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Google.co.uk still gives you the same old options.
For now.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:44 PM
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The Google statement (from the CNet article linked from Der Trihs' Gizmodo link):
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We are not censoring any adult content, and want to show users exactly what they are looking for -- but we aim not to show sexually-explicit results unless a user is specifically searching for them. We use algorithms to select the most relevant results for a given query. If you're looking for adult content, you can find it without having to change the default setting -- you just may need to be more explicit in your query if your search terms are potentially ambiguous. The image search settings now work the same way as in Web search.
The CNet piece goes on to say, "Google says the change simply brings image search settings in line with existing settings for Web and video search. But it's worth noting that this move is unusual for a company that in every other case works to make it easier, not harder, for you to find the thing you're looking for. . . . With its new image search settings, Google has identified one place where it wants users to work a bit harder." Which is their prerogative of course, though they could have been a bit clearer about the change.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:51 PM
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Google has been moving more and more towards conservative-Christian style censorship; it wasn't so long ago they pressured TV Tropes into removing various pages and putting content warning on others.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:10 PM
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Google has been moving more and more towards conservative-Christian style censorship; it wasn't so long ago they pressured TV Tropes into removing various pages and putting content warning on others.
Yeah, but TV Tropes was a cesspool. It should have been cleaned up long before Google asked.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:29 PM
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Yeah, but TV Tropes was a cesspool. It should have been cleaned up long before Google asked.
Yeah, pages on adoptions in the media by same sex parents are so very filthy and evil.

It isn't Google's job to "clean up" anything. I've barely even visited TVTropes since then, because it's censorship I find offensive.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:33 PM
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I don't mind the censorship, but let's have an option to turn it off, even if it requires logging in to do it.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:50 PM
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We are not censoring any adult content, and want to show users exactly what they are looking for -- but we aim not to show sexually-explicit results unless a user is specifically searching for them. We use algorithms to select the most relevant results for a given query. If you're looking for adult content, you can find it without having to change the default setting -- you just may need to be more explicit in your query if your search terms are potentially ambiguous. The image search settings now work the same way as in Web search.
Bullshit. I tried a couple of simple and unambiguously sexual search terms, and Google Image went out of it's way to give the least salacious possible returns. Goodbye Google I'm using Bing from now on.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:53 PM
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Goodbye Google I'm using Bing from now on.
Same here.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:42 PM
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Some news stories on this here and here. It's a US-only change so far.
Oops; that first link is in error, it's to another forum. I meant to post this.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:53 PM
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Google.co.uk still gives you the same old options.
It's what I've been using until they (hopefully) fix this stupid fucking decision.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:34 AM
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It's what I've been using until they (hopefully) fix this stupid fucking decision.
I hope they see the huge shift of traffic to the uk server and take the hint.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:06 AM
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I expect they'll do the opposite and change the UK server to match.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:30 AM
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I actually like this. It's not 'censorship' as long as users are still able to search for their porn or whatever - it just takes a few extra steps. I'll admit being frustrated the first time. And if it continues to be a pain maybe I'll take my 'adult' searches to Bing. But as a parent of young children (ages 6 and 8) who use the internet, I'm glad that their innocuous searches are less likely to bring up inappropriate images. For example, a few months ago my son wanted to search for Aslan (the lion) but spelled it with two S's. The results were pretty shocking for a 7-year old.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:50 AM
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Go here: http://www.google.com/preferences

There should be a SafeSearch filter section, in which you can disable the setting.
Sorry about this extremely unhelpful post. I mis-read the OP and thought he was just having trouble locating the settings panel. Didn't realize Google had actually changed policies.

This is kind of bullshit, IMO.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:59 AM
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I actually like this. It's not 'censorship' as long as users are still able to search for their porn or whatever - it just takes a few extra steps.
One complaint I've been hearing is that it's hard now to search for anything between "tame" and "completely explicit".

And I find the inability to turn it off offensive. Why is it only the prudes' sensibilities that matter?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:03 AM
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Bullshit. I tried a couple of simple and unambiguously sexual search terms, and Google Image went out of it's way to give the least salacious possible returns. Goodbye Google I'm using Bing from now on.
Internet not pr0n-y enough these days for you? ROFL
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:19 AM
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I noticed this too recently, and tried to futz with the gearbox and settings. It's annoying for an old porn hand like me, but upon reflection I support it. Its fucked-up and damaging for society and for kids and their minds (how's that for a critical commentary?) to have such easy access to porn, and of porn to which they--like us--are shocked even realizing that somewhere it is porn.

As the great Ron Jeremy, flanked by two sheep--a brilliant touch--said in a Christian video sermon (and church appearance) warning against too-easy access to porn: "Porno is just a typo away."
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:05 AM
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You folks are right and I was wrong. There doesn't appear to be any way to make uncensored searches using Advanced Search any more.

The german version isn't censored.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:35 PM
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I'd like to know just how a "few extra steps" can give me the results I'm used to. If someone wants to take a NSFW challenge, please do the following:
  • Search for "thick nipples" on the new Google images.
  • Go to the u.k. server and do the same search on the old system with Safe completely off.
  • Then tell me what extra terms I could add to the search on the new system that would give me the same results as the u.k. system.

Why the heck can't they just make the safe version the default and then let people turn safe search off if they friggin' want!

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Old 12-13-2012, 02:13 PM
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I'd like to know just how a "few extra steps" can give me the results I'm used to. If someone wants to take a NSFW challenge, please do the following:
  • Search for "thick nipples" on the new Google images.
  • Go to the u.k. server and do the same search on the old system with Safe completely off.
  • Then tell me what extra terms I could add to the search on the new system that would give me the same results as the u.k. system.
Be a bit more descriptive, I suppose. This works (or is damn close enough), and all I did was add the word big to the search parameters (it's even closer if you use the same three words on the UK site). It seems to work as Google intended, in that you have to be very clear about your search terms, and then make it clear you want to see the explicit results when they show you the pop-over (which, incidentally, seems to go away once you've clicked past it the first time, though it does reset itself at some point).

As to why, well yeah, I'd agree they're dumbing down the options for the lowest common denominator. But they are a public company with millions of customers who may not be the most tech-savvy users, and they're trying to strike a middle ground. As I said, the change doesn't bother me much, but I do wish they'd been more forthcoming about it before simply implementing it without comment, simply because those of us who pride ourselves on how to manage these various options get caught flat-footed.

Now I'm going to go clean up my search history a bit.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:17 PM
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Hm, ok maybe this can work.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:30 PM
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I don't mind the censorship, but let's have an option to turn it off, even if it requires logging in to do it.
There was nothing wrong with the old SafeSearch filters.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:08 PM
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There was nothing wrong with the old SafeSearch filters.
Actually, I had a small problem with them. If I want to find explicit stuff, which I do maybe 1% of the time, that's all fine and dandy, but if I am just looking for regular stuff I am bombarded with porn anyway. After all, I don't change my safe-search settings every time I search.

As an adult I can overlook most graphic images without any great bother (unless it's graphic violence or gore, especially real stuff), but it can be occasionally quite confronting, and also interfere with the results I'm after. It's unbelievable what you can end up seeing when all you're searching for is pictures of feet.

I think this adjustment works more along the lines of what I'd prefer for the majority of my searches.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:37 PM
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Actually, I had a small problem with them. If I want to find explicit stuff, which I do maybe 1% of the time, that's all fine and dandy, but if I am just looking for regular stuff I am bombarded with porn anyway. After all, I don't change my safe-search settings every time I search.
Leaving SafeSearch set to strict 99% of the time wasn't an option? That way for 99 searches out of a hundred, you don't have to change a thing.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:42 PM
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Its fucked-up and damaging for society and for kids and their minds (how's that for a critical commentary?) to have such easy access to porn, and of porn to which they--like us--are shocked even realizing that somewhere it is porn.
I see no evidence of that.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:42 PM
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Even signed in, you can't turn off SS.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:57 PM
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Even signed in, you can't turn off SS.
Exactly.

Quite remarkable. Google censorship.

So, who else provides search engines, since Big Frigid Brother just lost a fan.

On the OTHER hand, their mapping application rocks
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:06 PM
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So, who else provides search engines, since Big Frigid Brother just lost a fan.
Bing has already been mentioned.
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