Anyone who likes math care to dispute the claims in the video?:smack:
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The video goes through a series of some interesting math equations. Its shows some strong evidence that the sun and moon were created using this math.
Here is quick example from the video.
Everyones heard of the 144,000 of the book of Revelation and the number 666.
666 x 216.216216216216…equals 144000
Now whats interesting about that is that 216 is 6 cubed(6x6x6)
The diameter of the moon is 2160 miles, a harmony of 216 (216x10)
The moon is often reference to satan in the Bible and in prophecy
Why use miles? Well there are 5,280 feet in a mile
5280 x 27.2727272727272727…equals 144000
Now whats interesting about that is 27 is 3 cubed(3x3x3)
The diameter of the moon is 2159.2 miles (although it should be noted that it depends on where you measure it). And, of course, that is rounded to the nearest 1/10 of a mile. It’s not exactly that length.
Kinda screw up the math…
Welcome to the dope Treat
I don’t think the data you have found will convince many people of anything, nor amaze.
It’s quite easy given a set of numbers to find some patterns if you’re allowed to make up ad hoc rules of what constitutes a pattern. Indeed, better coincidences that you have found, since most of the ones I’ve heard of before don’t need to throw in apparently meaningless stuff like “a harmony of 216”.
Ok, I’ll take a couple stabs at this.
- The moon’s doesn’t have a pure “diameter”. It’s an oblate spheroid, like earth. Its diameter at its equator is roughly 2160.06 miles (note the decimals here). Its polar diameter is roughly 2157.36 miles. It’s mean diameter is about 2158.8 miles.
So, we use one measure and not the others? Or do we round up/down as appropriate to get the number we want? Seems pretty sloppy and arbitrary.
- On the topic of decimals, not only is the moon not a perfect sphere, we have to be fuzzy with our multiplications, too, and round to get the numbers we want? Also seems pretty sloppy and arbitrary.
I haven’t watched the video, but if those are its claims then I would care to dispute them. It’s silliness.
I don’t know enough about maths to dispute the relevance of all your claims, but some are especially obvious.
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You say you use miles because there are 5280 feet in a mile, and 5280 is significant. So why use feet?
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Why is it interesting that 27 is 3 cubed?
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2160 doesn’t have that much to do with 216. Yeah, it looks similar if you use base 10, but otherwise there’s no significance.
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Does 216.216216… even have any particular relation to 216, other than visually? I don’t think so, but I’ll leave that to someone else to confirm. Same goes for 27.2727… Convert them to base 8 and suddenly you have entirely unremarkable-looking numbers.
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The Bible is, at best, based on the stories of crazy people. At worst, it’s based on deliberate lies. Think how easy it is for an urban legend to start.
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Look up non-Christian numerology. You’ll find a lot of “eerie” significance to completely different mythologies. You’ll probably find some secular ones too - I’m sure someone believes The Illuminati are leaving secret numbers around. If you think the stuff you posted is evidence of anything, why not Islamic numerology? The same goes for angels, voices from God, etc. People from all sorts of religions believe they, or someone they know, has experienced proof of their faith. They all believe just as hard, and yet they can’t all be right.
This kind of silliness is what got Harold Camping’s followers into trouble. Don’t sell your home to warn people that the world will end on a specific date.
You joined the board in 2006. There is one 6 in that numeral. The other 3 numbers are not sixes. The first number is 2. Two times three is 6. So now you have two sixes, which is 12. You joined the board in the month of February, which is the second month. Twelve divided by two is… 6! :eek:
6, 6, 6! 666! Mijin is the Antichrist! :eek:
Read Martin Gardner, especially his Dr. Matrix books. He goes to great (and greatly amusing) lengths to show how any arbitrary set of numbers can be manipulated to mean anything you like and provide proofs that are numerically irrefutable.
All that indicates is that there are gazillions of numbers in the world and those give gazillions to the gazillions ways of connecting them and out of all those gazillions, humans can find patterns that please them. Nothing more. Literally nothing more.
How do we know God uses Base 10?
We tend to capitalize His name here, as many of us have taken Satan as our savior, though I never much liked the fellow. :rolleyes:
There are other miles in use today, like the nautical mile of 6,076.1184 feet. Then there was the Roman mile of John’s day, which was about 4,860 feet. What was used 4,000 years before that is anybody’s guess, and those I’ve given blow your calculations all to Hell.
Then you have to define one foot. The photos I’ve seen of Jehovah show he’s a pretty big guy, and with nobody else around to compare feet with he probably used his own, so the divine foot appears to be about nine international feet long, completely messing up your numbers.
As you try to make Numerology an exact science you have to be careful about your units.
I only got to 5m0s … these are just mathemagical curiosities, just throwing numbers around doesn’t explain why.
We can multiply any set of numbers we like, it’s allowed by the rules of math. However, once we assign a dimension to a number, the rules get more restrictive. We can never multiply years by minutes, that’s just never done. Even if we did, the result can never be a distance. I don’t know folks, if we just make up the rules of math as we go along, I’m sure we could prove anything we’d like to. So I quit watching, years x minutes ≠ furlongs.
So, there’s an ENTIRE book in The Bible called Numbers, and it’s full of numbers. I’ll spare the reader some grief:
Reuban = 46,500
Simeon = 59,300
Gad = 45,600
Judah = 74,600
Issachar = 54,400
Zebulun = 57,400
Ephraim = 40,500
Manasseh = 32,200
Benjamin = 35,400
Dan = 62,700
Asher = 41,500
Naphtali = 53,400
… numbers …
Hi John
I think that’s a weak argument. I mean the entire science community knows the moon has shrunk at least 600 feet and continues to shrink since in came into existence, next year they’ll probably come out new estimates. The skeptic will stumble over an inch. Oh well
Oh I’m sorry, perhaps Jesus had a really small foot 
Don’t plan on it unless God tells me to, I don’t want to get swallowed by a whale.
What’s weak about it? The number “2160 miles” is not correct. The math doesn’t work unless you pick a number that is wrong. You don’t get to claim that 2.01 + 2.00 = 4.00.
So if it’s shrinking, your calculations only hold for a specific instant in time. If you measure later when the moon is smaller, will that change the holy number?
Yes friend it’s all for your visual pleasure but you don’t have eyes to see, really it’s about audio, they represent music but you don’t have the ears to hear.
You are correct, it was the moment in time God spoke it into existence and yes it could possibly be a count down measurement, I wouldn’t rule that out.
Really? Where does the Bible state the size of the moon?