I’m not a professional gambler. At all. I’d sure like to be. I’d like to be a high roller, rings on every finger, a gal in every port…but I’m not. A lot of these games, I’m just learning.
So when a fucking cuntsaw like you sits down next to me at a blackjack table in AURORA FUCKING ILLINOIS and starts flapping your gums, I get a bit hot under the collar.
Here’s a sampling of what I heard when dealt every hand:
“You idiot! You’re staying? WHAT?”
“You’re stupid! You don’t know how to play. What are you doing here”
“Oh jesus, don’t tell me you’re hitting on that! PLEASE! GOD! Why are you here?”
Tell me this cockpocket, if you’re the be all end all genius of blackjack, betting at least $50 a hand (which you were, I saw), GET THE FUCK upstairs and play at the highrolling tables ok? Leave those of us who aren’t making our lives salary on a Suburban chicago riverboat to play our games with the $60 we set aside to have fun with. Better yet, if you’re the God of the six deck shoe, plant your bony ass on plane to Vegas and head over to Mandalay Bay. We’ll see how quick you are to run off your mouth, dick.
You ruined my night, and nearly made me cry, fuckwhisk. I was nervous to start with and you made it worse. Take your fistful of $25 chips and rathole 'em up your ass, cockbite. I’ve got friends to hang out with.
By the way, how can I possibly be criticized for standing on seventeen? Oh I can’t. That’s right.
Well, if you count cards like my mother and father do, are at the end of the shoe, have the dealer representing 18 or better, and you know you got aces and fours coming, then…
Sorry… just being devil’s advocate.
Sorry that fuckwad ruined your night… come down and hang out in Biloxi with me and the guys… we’ll teach you how to be up 5 hunny by midnight.
You weren’t, perchance, sitting at “third base,” were you?
Third base is the last player before the dealer. Although
it’s not rational to anyone who understands statistics, if
you’re at third base, and you take a hit and get a card that
woulda made the dealer bust, your fellow players may get
all jerky on you.
They don’t notice, of course, when you take a low card so
that the next card makes the dealer bust.
Anyway, you’re absolutely right. 99% of all people aren’t
weenies about it, and realize the point is to have fun. You
shouldn’t have had to deal with that.
Chances are the other player had been playing about 1 night
longer than you, and so “earned” the right to be all high
and mighty.
If you weren’t following him and doing something silly like hitting nineteen, fuck 'em.
Now if you’re learning the game, the nice thing to do is to inform other players at the table. Some won’t have a problem with it, some will. Some may help you learn. You have to remember that statistics or not, doing something really silly in blackjack affects other people’s money as well as your own. If you haven’t already, and intend to go again, I’d get a book on blackjack or take a class. It’ll give you a little better edge against the house, and more confidence to deal with others at the table.
Hibbins, i’ve been playing blackjack at Aurora for a while. I also play with my friends at home, and I’m pretty sure that I know what the system is. I know when to split, double down, I know the bust cards. I mean, I’m nervous, but I DO know what I’m doing. That’s why he pissed me off. The hands were difficult, some weren’t obvious choices. I mean I was dealt a thirteen and the dealer showed a four…I took time to think about it and the guy just said,
“HIT HIT! What are you stupid?”
regardless of whether I’m affecting his game, he doesn’t need to talk to me that way.
Apparently “he” was. If you’re not counting, then your best bet on that hand, especially if you’re leaning on the dealer’s right is to stand and let the dealer play it out and hopefully bust.
All you have to do is just do increasingly strange things. Eventually they get upset enough and leave. I love when I win the battle of wills.
My two favorite things to do are to 1) Split 10s, and 2) Stay on hands under 10. I just smile back at the glares I get. I win and lose just as much as when I play by the “rules”, so it makes it fun for me.
Or if you’re in an antagonistic mood, just say “waah” everytime the person says something to you. It’s amazing how effective that simple sound is.
Or you can just point out everytime the blamer does something that causes you to lose. This is only effective if they’re before you though, and it’s a bit provoking so it may end up getting both of you kicked out.
Anyway, my point is that this is a common occurence, and nobody should let it ruin their playing experience.
What a fucking jackass! I would have asked the dealer to get rid of him or talked to the Pit boss. All casinos that I’ve been to absolutely forbid swearing on the gaming floor (at least where the dealers can hear it) and would not put up with a fellow gamer insulting others.
Too bad you couldn’t have ordered a drink from the waitress and thrown it in his face. What a total jerkoff.
For what it’s worth, I would not hit on 13 with a dealer showing 14. And who the hell hits on a 17?
Um, could someone help me out here? How exactly does hitting on 19 (or standing on 13) affect other people’s money? Aren’t you risking your own money by risking a bust and/or ending up with a lower hand than the dealer?
I’m not trying to sound belligerent. I really would like some clarification. Blackjack is one of the few games I’ll play upon visiting a casino (slots? feh), and I’d like to know if I’m missing something.
Oh, and that guy was a moron. Play the game the way you want.
Depending upon where you’re sitting and the people to your right’s hands, you could stupidly bust on a card they need, or take the dealers bust card, thus causing the guy that stood on the 14 when the dealer was showing a six to lose.
I’m not explaining it very well… does that make any sense?
Yeah, Simetra, except that in my mind, they only know that I hit and busted on a card they needed after I did so. At the time, hitting on a 14 might not have been that stupid, especially if you’re not counting (plenty of cards between A and 7). So to make a comment about someone hitting on 14 as they do it is rude.
And again, I’m losing my own money as well. If that guy was so frustrated that jarbabyj wasn’t playing the way he wanted, he should have moved to another table. There’s no rule stating that newbies must move on if they don’t respect the experienced pleyers. I hope.
The moment he said this the correct move is to tell him “I’m sorry, sir, but if you continue being abusive I will have to complain to the management.” If he says anything else, complain. He’ll either shut up or they’ll deal with him.
Blackjack is a baby’s game, anyway, which is why I like it (and roulette!) You can learn to play blackjack properly in about an hour. If Mr. StrategyGod was such a fucking genius, he wouldn’t be playing blackjack in the first place. He’d have been playing poker.
I second RickJay. That is also why I stick to Blackjack.
jarbabyj,
I just assumed Blackjack was one of them.
Furthermore, if the guy didn’t like the way you were playing he should have moved. That is unless you sat down at “his” table. If you sat down at “his” table and if (and only if) you are really playing stupid, (i.e. everyone is glaring at you and the dealer has a big Cheshire cat grin) then the courteous thing is for you to move to a different table.
Oh well, some people just like to be jerks (see c_goat).
:consued:
This from someone who willingly attacks people with words like ‘cocksocket’?
Yes and no! (answer to “That isn’t the same thing!”)
I agree with you, as I posted above. There’s just as good
a chance that the card that’ll make the dealer bust is the second card from the top of the deck, in which case your
taking the hit saves the table.
Sam Stone, though, in this thread pointed out that
taking a card removes it from the shoe, which does affect
things minimally. Then again, you don’t know whether it
was good for the table or bad for the table until you take
it.
At any rate, it wasn’t the jerk’s buiness what jarbabyj
wanted to do. If he doesn’t like it, find another game.
I don’t think I could be that polite if some asshole was doing that to me. I’d have said, “Hey buddy. Shut the fuck up. If you don’t like the way I play, go to another damn table.”
I’m too chicken to try to play Blackjack or Poker when I go to the casinos. It’s probably easier to play if you know how to count cards. Hey, I’ll give 10% of my winnings to the person who can teach me how to count cards (and win doing it) before I go to Las Vegas next year! Any takers?
Well, if this asinine individual was really that upset, they should have changed tables. If they stayed because they were winning…well, what’s the problem?
As far as hitting a 17, it may have been in reference to a “soft” 17, (6 + Ace), which most methods recommend taking a hit on. YMMV.
jababyj, that sucks. I love gambling, and I hate it when some (usually drunk) loser wrecks it for me.
Yes, it’s nice when people play blackjack in a reasonable manner. However, I am playing my hand, not yours. I took your card? Bullshit, I took my card. Yours comes next.
While I would never call someone I don’t even know “stupid,” in public, I have to admit that when I’m playing blackjack it does irritate me a bit when novice players hem, haw, and wring their hands over plays.
I try to minimize this by playing at the higher-stakes tables - sometimes that isn’t an option because of crowding, and sometimes there are no $25 tables open. At the Sands, in Atlantic City - my favorite gambling haunt - the $25 tables typically don’t open up until the evening. If I’m playing in the afternoon, I find that there’s not much choice but to play at a $10 table.
When that happens, and I’m sharing a table with a rookie, I simply remember that there was a time when I wasn’t too sharp on basic strategy, and that everyone has to learn.
I just wanted to say “fuckwhisk” could be the funniest cuss I’ve heard in a while. I just picture this big idiot attempting to have sex with an electric mixer. It will now be a part of my lexicon. Thanks
jarbaby, from what you’re describing, not only was this guy a jerk, but he was absolutely wrong in his advice. Unless you’re playing a perfect count system, you can safely assume it’s NEVER acceptable to hit 17 or hit 13 vs a 4. Especially the second one. You did the right thing and this guy should be slapped on principle.
c_goat, I’m not going to hijack this thread into proper BJ play, but I will say this. First, while, mathematically, you aren’t affecting anyone else, psycologically you are. Someone sees you playing stupidly and gets pissed at you for losing the hand for them, their play will suffer.
Secondly, doing stupid things like that, just for the hell of it, may be fun, but it also costs you A LOT of money. You wanna throw it away? Fine. But let me give you my address and you can come over to my house to play. Free booze too, just like the big leagues!
