After this maybe we should all agree as fellow air travelers that we should all jump any hi jackers from now on. They have no decency and it probably is our only chance for our survival.
So what do ya’ll think? If you are flying and see a hijacker, everybody jump him and do what ever you want to him with no fear of restitution when you get back on the ground. Matter of fact, people that jump the hijackers should be praised as heroes and rewarded by the airlines.
Is it really that crazy of an idea because I think this would be heck of detterent to hijackers.
chuckle Yeah, if I’m not going to have to pay the guy later, then I’ll help kick his ass.
Seriously, these four events have changed everything. Had those first flights had any idea of what they were headed for, they would have fought back too.
I guess it will all depend on the pasenger’s PERCEIVED sense of danger. If the guy looks Cuban and we’re on a puddlejumper from Key West to Pensacola, I’d probably let him tell my pilot where to go.
If he’s Middle Eastern, my plane’s got a colon-busting load of fuel and he takes out a pilot or a stewardess, I’m going to initiate eye contact with any other big guys on the plane and coordinate a response that won’t just include taking back control, I’d like to end the guy(s) time here on earth. He’s so bloody ready to die? Here’s a helping hand and a smile.
I don’t consider Lieu’s comment racist, really. It makes sense to assume a Cuban on a plane in Florida and an “arab” on a long distance flight to have different goals in a hijacking.
As a matter of fact, I said virtually the same thing yesterday, but since I am Cuban, I said “white guy.”
Well, Bill, he was saying that if the terrorist was Middle Easter, not just if some random guy was Middle Eastern.
The thrust of his post, if my reading comprehension is up to snuff, is that a flight hijacked by a Cuban looking person in the south of Florida is much more likely to end with the plane landing safely (in Cuba) than one hijacked elsewhere, fully laden with fuel, by someone bearing the racial characteristics of people known to have caused acts of terror in the past.
FWIW, I think that anyone that attempts to hijack a flight I’m on, be they Middle Eastern, Cuban, German, Mexican or Californian, is going face one of two outcomes: they will kill me and whomever I can rally or we will kill them on the spot.
I’m not afraid to tell you this here and now, to have my words recorded for future reference: if someone hijacks a craft I am on, I will take vigilante justice to fullest extreme possible to ensure that they never have the chance to inflict hard on anyone ever again. There will be no insanity or other lawyer tricks, they will simply not have the option of drawing breath.
I stress, though, that this is regardless of race, color or creed, it is for the person that attempts to bring terror to me and those around me.
That’s the way I look at it. To paraphrase Harvey Keitel in Reservoir Dogs, “The choice between taking out some low-life punk or gettin’ killed by him ain’t no choice at all.”
…to ensure that they never have the chance to inflict hurt on anyone ever again. There will be no insanity [plea] or other lawyer tricks, they will simply not have the option of drawing breath.
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I am slight and scrawny compared to many men my age, but I would do whatever I could to stop a hijacker. If I was killed in the process, so be it. There are many less honorable ways to die.
Sit next to me. I am big and strong compared to most men my age, and after I decapitate the bastard through blunt force trauma, I’ll let you guard his head. (The drinks will be on me, naturally.)
From now on, the entire equation re: hijacking has changed. It now will be a death match of 150 passengers vs. a few swarthy punks, armed or not.
Totally the wrong approach. The scum who would do this sort of thing would be much more useful alive, so that they can be interrogated and their paymasters and leaders tracked down and killed. I’m much rather let Tim The Crazed Hijacker live so I can kill all his buddies than kill him and let the trail grow cold.
You are talking about people who are willing to die crashing an aeroplane into a tall building.
They are not going to talk.
Furthermore, the cell system employed by many terrorist organisations means that these people probably don’t know who most of their buddies are anyway.
If they are killed, and killed by civilian passengers at that, it will demonstrate that hijacking aeroplanes is no longer worth the trouble.
Bill, Hell yes I’m with you let jack the hijacker. You jump him from behind, put him in a full nelson I’ll kick him in the cunt and make him grunt, you pull his hair and I’ll poke his eyes than proceed to beat the shit out of him until death and yes I feel just find afterwards. No payment due. These people are low laying scum sucking dog asses, there would be no question we would HERO.
Let throw in a couple more kick to the head, yea yea I like that!
Nonsense; this isn’t a movie. There are lots of nifty psychological tricks for getting people to spill the beans. Interrogation is a fine art, and someone’s being a zealot doesn’t mean they can’t be made to talk. Captured Japanese soldiers during WWII were often quite easy to interrogate because they’d never ben trained on what to do if they were captured. Perhaps the minions of Mr. bin Laden will be similarly vulnerable.
After a few weeks at the hands of skilled interrogators, you’d be surprised who can be a fruitful source of info.
You are an optimist. Presumably you are able to provide me with the many sources of information you have, where one of Osama bin Laden’s cohorts has confessed the whereabouts of his partners in crime.
Furthermore, you do not address the likelihood of the person being interrogated knowing nothing of value because of the cell system employed by Osama bin Laden.
