The Straight Dope

Go Back   Straight Dope Message Board > Main > General Questions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-06-2001, 07:56 AM
CC CC is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: not elsewhere
Posts: 3,522
OK, it's been a while since we've seen the glut of advertising for lasix surgery. I'm reluctant to have my eyes carved on in the absence of any long term evidence as to efficacy and safety. Since the procedure apparently keeps being refined and updated, is there any reason to think this is a reasonable alternative to wearing glasses? (and don't ask how I came to wear glasses!) thank you.
__________________
"And it's just...that...easy!" - The Flying Karamazov Brothers
Reply With Quote
Advertisements  
  #2  
Old 11-06-2001, 07:57 AM
Popup Popup is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
There have been several threads about this. The reason you didn't find them is that it's spelled LASIK. Try searching again!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-06-2001, 08:00 AM
KneadToKnow KneadToKnow is offline
Voodoo Adult (Slight Return)
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
Posts: 20,793
Yeah, but what's the deal with Retinax Five?
__________________
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-06-2001, 08:42 AM
barbitu8 barbitu8 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
The procedure is not being refined. There are several procedurews. Initially there was RK, radial keratotomy, with the knife. Then the laser came along, where the top layer of the cornea was burned off to change the curvature: photorefractive keratectomy, PRK. Then there is the current procedure (but not latest), wherein a flap is cut in your cornea by a microkeratomer (I doubt if I spelled tha right) and then the inside of the cornea is burned away with the laser (LASIK, laser in situ keratamelieusis - I doubt if I spelled that correctly). There have also been new lasers approved by the FDA in addition to the original one.

The latest is a ring embedded around the inside of your cornea, molding the cornea into the proper shape. This procedure is reversible. These have all been approved by the FDA. FDA would not have approved them unless they were demonstrated to be effective and safe. Of course, it all depends upon what you mean by "long term."

New info is being gathered as these procedures gain age. At first, it was thought that RK would change the shape of the cornea for five years after the operation, towards more contraction. Hence, the cornea was not shaped for 20/20 vision, since that would result in hyperopia. Or it shouldn't be shaped to 20/20 due to additional correction after the surgery. Now they've found out that the cornea continues to contract even 10 years after the operation, resulting in many people now having hyperopia (farsightedness).

And there have been cases of less than successful laser surgeries too. But those have arisen due to inferior lasers, which have not been approved by the FDA.
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in this world: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:02 AM
Superdude Superdude is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Well, CC, I have PRK performed on me almost 4 years ago. It was done by Dr. Richard Eiferman in Louisville, KY (who is considered by many to be one of the best in this field). I have never once experienced any haloing or any other side effect that is possible as a result of this procedure.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:02 AM
Superdude Superdude is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Well, CC, I had PRK performed on me almost 4 years ago. It was done by Dr. Richard Eiferman in Louisville, KY (who is considered by many to be one of the best in this field). I have never once experienced any haloing or any other side effect that is possible as a result of this procedure.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:12 AM
CalMeacham CalMeacham is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: May 2000
I understand that one of the drawbacks is a tendency to repeat yourself.
__________________
"You know nothing, Sergeant Schultz"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:16 AM
Superdude Superdude is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
True, Cal. The doctor sneezed performing mine, and caused my throat to skip. As a result, I have a scratch on it that sometimes makes me repeat myself. I've tried running a CD cleaner over it, but nothing works.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:27 AM
ShibbOleth ShibbOleth is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
The Straight Dope on LasixTM:
Quote:
Lasix
DIURETICS, LOOP (Systemic)

Description—Loop diuretics are given to help reduce the amount of water in the body. They work by acting on the kidneys to increase the flow of urine.

Furosemide is also used to treat high blood pressure (hypertension) in those patients who are not helped by other medicines or in those patients who have kidney problems.

High blood pressure adds to the work load of the heart and arteries. If it continues for a long time, the heart and arteries may not function properly. This can damage the blood vessels of the brain, heart, and kidneys, resulting in a stroke, heart failure, or kidney failure. High blood pressure may also increase the risk of heart attacks. These problems may be less likely to occur if blood pressure is controlled.

Loop diuretics may also be used for other conditions as determined by your doctor.
And of course lasix is well known in horse racing circles as well:
Quote:
Heres one of the big x-factors in handicapping (as if there aren't enough subtleties already). Lasix or Furosemide is a diuretic used to treat bleeding in horses. It can be given to horses that suffer exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrhaging (basically that means he's a bleeder). Such horses might slow abruptly when their breathing is inhibited.
Hope this helps!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:35 AM
handy handy is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Pacific Grove, Calif
Posts: 17,493
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...threadid=97009
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-06-2001, 09:46 AM
Weird_AL_Einstein Weird_AL_Einstein is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Quote:
Originally posted by KneadToKnow
Yeah, but what's the deal with Retinax Five?
I myself am allergic to RetinaxTM
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-06-2001, 12:06 PM
rseneres rseneres is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
LASIK Refinement

The procedure IS undergoing refinement. For example the method of "creating the flap" can be enhanced to do this more precisely by way of very small, cutting jets of water, among other methods under research. Source: Dr Alan Carlson, Duke University.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-06-2001, 12:52 PM
Malice Malice is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
FYI, here's an article from that discusses various kinds of eye surgeries, their risks and benefits, patient eligibility, costs, etc...

http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/spr01/view.html
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright © 2013 Sun-Times Media, LLC.