Do nurses or doctors ever have to masturbate disabled or paralyzed people?

I can recall reading Chuck Shepherd’s report on News of the Weird about this issue. It’s probably archived somewhere, so you can dig it up if you want the exacts, but I’ll tell you what I can remember: A nurse/caregiver in Australia was suing her employer because they ordered her to assist her charges with manual stimulation and release, she refused, so they fired her and she sued. Not sure how it turned out, all I read was the report that the lawsuit was filed. I believe the patients in this instance were mentally challenged adults living in a group home setting. Since her employer told her to do it, I assume they also told others to and some probably did, and maybe didn’t mind or even enjoyed it. For every one person that complains about their job, I figure there are exponentially more that do it and don’t care, so yes, I would conclude that caregivers are doing it, and many probably under orders from their employers.
And I work in a nursing home, not as a nurse, caregiver or any other job that is ‘hands on’ with the patients, but I do recall overhearing a nurse being told that she must allow residents to possess sex toys or porn, and even assist in their procurement if the residents request them. The only stipulation was that the resident must draw their curtains when ‘entertaining’ themselves. I wondered how that would block out the sounds if a movie was being viewed in a double-occupancy room.

Just because the boss says to do it doesn’t mean it’s safe, legal or standard.

Even if the patient were capable of informed consent, and asked the caregiver for such assistance?

There are lots of cases where a person in any kind of authority is prevented, even when consent might be present. Teachers, medical professionals and police/guards are some of the top examples that come to mind.

We have a joke here in the office about our company’s need to hire “Consortium Loss Mitigation Specialists.” It’s a nerdy world we live in.

As far as paralyzed folks go, as I understand it if you can’t move your arms, your nethers aren’t gonna be working anyway.

I don’t want to search for it, but I have heard of rectal vibrators being used for men with paralysis from spinal injuries.

Other way around. Hypogastric plexus stops working if the legs stop working, IIRC.

It’s a good way for single women to have a child.

Well, what if you are a DEA agent recovering from gunshot wounds and your wife, who has basically supplanted all nursing help in your care while in the hospital, makes you a bet that might take you away from your important work collecting and examining rare minerals? What then?

I think I’ve mentioned this before on here, but when I was about 12 my grandfather was in a nursing home following a stroke that had left him paralysed. I distinctly remember seeing empty condom packaging in the waste basket in his room, and thinking that was a little… odd. But I don’t know whether they were really taking care of Grandpa.

If so then more power to their elbow, I guess :slight_smile:

I’m not entirely sure how/when would use one with a man, but they use condoms over the transvaginal ultrasound wand for women. Keeps it clean, provides a little lube…

So there’s at least one legitimate medical use for condoms that isn’t sexually related. Or it’s possible your grandfather had a girlfriend in the nursing home. It happens. Just because they’re old doesn’t mean they’ve stopped boinking.

And that *is *a topic that’s getting a lot of discussion in nursing journals in the last few years – should we be providing private spaces in nursing homes for residents who want to have sex? What if grandma’s in the nursing home and grandpa comes to visit? What if people meet and fall in love in the nursing home? What if their (adult) children are profoundly uncomfortable with their aging parent(s) sexuality? How do we respect the privacy and sexual needs of consenting adults while preventing abuse?

I don’t claim to have answers, but I think those are interesting, non-prurient questions.

ETA: OH! Wait a sec…are you sure it was a condom and not a condom catheter? Would your 12 year old self have known the difference?

There are sex workers who specialise in disabled people.

The new film The Sessions is also about this, in fact I wouldn’t mind betting it was inspired by the above documentary.

Eljaculation can also be induced by electrical stimulation of the prostate. It’s also possible to retrieve viable semen from the testes of recently deceased males.

Why am I hearing Peter Gabriel’s ‘Shock the Monkey’?

I think this is pushing the OP’s premise a bit too far…:slight_smile:

No.
In most US states, the prostitution laws say something like “whether for a consideration or no”, which means whether paid or not, it’s illegal.

That makes no sense - by that logic, unmarried sex is illegal (even if no1 pays any1 else).
What about bartering i.e. “I’ll whack you off in exchange for ur Ipod”?

Unless of course you film it, in which case its perfectly legal to pay someone for sex.

Um, if nobody is getting paid, ain’t no prostitutin’ going down. :dubious:

Not one of them - my experience of condoms at this age was limited to the packets I found while snooping in my parents’ room and I recall it was the same brand, Durex.

This was over 20 years ago and there could be any number of explanations, but I did find it odd which is why I still remember!