How big a problem is pedophilia, really?

We’ve discussed about that in the past. And in these cases, personnally, I blame the parents way more than whoever looks at these sites. I mean, what kind of parents would make money by posting pictures and videos of their kids in bathsuits for whoever enjoys this? Would you do such a thing?

** Kimera **, I believe, isn’t talking about child porn but about perfectly legal sites showing/selling pictures of enticing but (slightly) dressed kids. Correct me if I’m wrong.

While I have mixed feelings about what those people are doing, I found the site very odd. I took the tour that showed the photos the would-be molesters posted of themselves vs. their mug shots, then commented on the difference

Okay, yes, it is important that kids know people use fake or flattering photos, but would it really make a difference if it was an adorable 20-something soliciting sex with your 13-year-old daughter?

Both are shared through that manner. It used to be a lot easier to find hardcore child porn simply by doing a websearch but the authorities have shut down most of the websites. However, you can still find it if you know where to look. There is a lot of traffic on p2ps, and while they can track you down by your ISP, there is too much stuff for someone to sit and watch everything that goes back and forth. Mailing lists, groups, private websites were other ways that the pics/videos were exchanged. For some of the pedophiles I’ve known, the pictures of the clothed children were just as sexually stimulating as naked pictures of children.

It is not even illegal for a person who admits to being a pedophile to have contact with young children. That’s why websites like Butterfly Kisses and NAMBLA can exist on the web. There is a pedophile I’ve been in contact with who has a “Little Girlfriend.” The authorities have said that until the pedophile harms the kid, they have no reason to get involved. As far as I know, the mother of the child does not know what her daughter’s “friend” really is.

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OK, this stuff shouldn’t be turning me on, should it?

I think I missed something. Why do you know so many pedos? Are you a social worker or therapist or something? If so, that would explain it; if not, there’s something very wrong here. And I’m very alarmed at the “Little Girlfriend”. Why on earth does it have to wait for this child to get RAPED before the cops step in? Why don’t YOU step in? Tell the girl’s mother? This girl is in serious danger. If she gets hurt despite the fact that you full well know what company she was in, you could be charged with child endangerment.

I find abnormal sexualities interesting so when I come across one that is unusual I ask the person many questions. I don’t tell them what I think about their “condition” and most of them are open and honest with me after a while. I pretended that I was accepting of children as young as 12 having sex with adults on another forum and I got many messages from individuals who identified as pedophiles. Several were fake, but others came across as very realistic and I keep in contact with them. I wanted to know more about pedophiles and I figured the best way to learn about them was to talk to them myself.

This one in particular I first came across on a livejournal community. He says that he is a male to female transsexual, but for a variety of reasons, I think he is really male. He later came into a chat room I hang out in and the other chat members were accepting of this individual because they believed that he poses no harm to society. I disagree. This person could be making the whole thing up, but I doubt it. Anyway, he spoofs his ISP and the websites he has registered are not in his legal name. In the diary he writes about his relationship with the girl, he does not use either of their names. All this information has been turned over to the authorities, but as of now, nothing has been done. I don’t see what else I can do other than talk to him and try to dig out as much information as possible.

I definitely didn’t get very far there…

Let me be sure I understand. You know a pedophile. You know this pedophile has a little girlfriend. You know this child could be at risk. Yet you’ve done nothing to inform the child’s mother.

Seriously. What the fuck are you thinking?

Way I read kimera’s posts, he/she has had online communication with this pedophile but has no way to identify or locate him (the ped being very good at ISP spoofing), nor the little girl; so what can he/she do?

I think I’m mostly confused by the “authorities” being called and saying they can do nothing about it. Unless the “authorities” are non-law enforcement, spineless idiots, there is certainly something that can be done, like let the parents know their child may be at risk.

To be honest, there’s something that just doesn’t ring true…

I can email you all the information I have collected and perhaps you can get somewhere.

I agree. Police seem to be taking even a suspected risk very seriously these days. And even if this person’s real name/location is unknown, a skilled info tracker would have little problem uncovering a hidden IP address and eventually pinpointing their location.

Just why do you find pedophiles so interesting, kimera? I mean, to go to lengths to pretend you are one to get them to talk to you just out of curiosity…there’s something not right there. The excuse that you “find abnormal sexualities interesting” doesn’t cut it. If you were a psychologist writing your Master’s thesis, maybe. But if you truly are morbidly curious, I don’t think you really realize what kind of trouble you’re inviting.