Hitler in Circleville, Ohio?!?!?

This is especially for Ohio dopers, as someone with copious arcane knowledge of the history of Pickaway County might be able to shed light on the matter. I’m curious as to how the sleepy little town of Circleville (i.e. the county seat of Pickaway County, best known for the annual Pumpkin Festival) has taken on so many connections with the name “Hitler”.

In or around Circleville, Ohio, there is apparently a Hitler Road (which shows up on Lycos maps, but not Yahoo), a Huber Hitler Road (which shows up on Yahoo, is this road distinct from plain-old Hitler Road?) There is also a Martha Hitler Park, and a Hitler-Ludwig Cemetary in the Circleville area. The following website mentions the names of a couple of these places:

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/comparisontests/2000/December/200012_comparisontest_designerutes.xml

Various other websites refer to the cemetary, or to businesses located on Hitler Road.

I’m assuming that all these Hitler-named things in Pickaway County, Ohio have some link to a prominent Hitler family that lived there well before you-know-who did his shenaningans as an infamous genocidal dictator. Perhaps the Hitlers of Pickaway County were/are very nice people–perhaps they were/are more or less the antithesis of everything that “other guy” stood for. Even so, I can imagine that quite a few out-of-towners who have passed through the area have scratched their heads at all the Hitler references.

Anyway, I was kind of surprised to find so many things named Hitler in such close proximity to one another. Does anyone else know of other places in the U.S. where places are formally named Hitler? Does anyone know a specific instance of some place in the U.S. that once was named Hitler, but whose name was modified following WWII? I can imagine it’s hard enough to find Hitlers in an American phone book these days, let alone as a formal place name.

OT & IMHO territory: I live in Champaign County, Ohio, and live near the following:

Helltown Rd.
Coffin Station Rd.
Sodom Rd.

Those wacky fundamentalists really got a kick out of naming roads…

Think again :eek:

Interesting link, Thylacine.

I wonder how many times George Hitler (or Scott Hitler or some other Hitler) has called the pizzeria and had a conversation like:

Hitler: Hello, I’d like to order a large pizza with all the veggie toppings.
Pizza Guy: Anything else?
Hitler: No, that’ll be all.
Pizza Guy: Delivery or carryout?
Hitler: Delivery.
Pizza Guy: Alright, your total is $13.24. And your name is?
Hitler: Hitler
(Pizza Guy hangs up in disgust.)
Pizza Guy: Damn pranksters!!!

During World War II a good deal of attention was given to a human interest story about a young American serviceman named Hitler. Asked if he was considering changing his name, he replied: “no, let that jerk change his!”, or words to that effect.

Interesting Q and BTW, Circleville itself looks like an interesting town from a town planning perspective – very unusually designed in concentric circles and other oddities.

Anyway, a quick scoot around (there’s quite a lot online) finds that a George Hitler also lived in those parts in the late 1700’s (I didn’t go back any further, the older George may not have had a phone, though) . He married a Susannah Gay and they had at least a daughter (born Dec 14, 1810) they named Sarah.

In turn, Sarah Hitler married Vincent Lane. They had children also but without going nuts on the research, I don’t know how many. However – remember Sarah was born 1810 - for argument sake say Sarah or her siblings would, maybe, be producing their own children by around the early 1830’s (aged 20-ish. Normal in them thar days).

That next generation would be producing children in the early 1850’s. Who in turn would be looking to get hitched around the early 1870’s. Which brings me to…

“On November 6, 1873, Mr. Dreisbach was united in marriage with Mary A. Hitler, who is a daughter of Abraham and Eleanor (Morris) Hitler, who were prominent pioneers in Pickaway County. The marriage took place in the old brick home on Mr. Dreisbach’s farm in Washington township. To this marriage were born five children, the survivors being: Dennis H., Guy Evans, Emma Grace and Orin Woodside.”
I guess the thing is the Hitler’s (or even the Gay-Hitlers…which is kinda…nevermind), lived there way back when so it wouldn’t be a great stretch to think they named things after themselves or had things named after them. How settled was that part of Ohio by the late 1700’s ? No idea.

His name really wasn’t Hitler, it was Schickelgruber. Any of those in Ohio?

The USGS database has no towns named Hitler or formerly named Hitler. There’s only one geographical feature that contains “Hitler” in the database. It’s Hitler Pond in–you guessed it–Circleville, Ohio.

Huh. And here I always thought Hitler would appear in Cincinnati, the most eeeeeeeeevil city in all Ohio!

[native Columbusite ducks and runs] :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not only a native of Ohio, I’m a linguist.

The name Hitler is a variant in dialectal German of the name Hüttler. That means someone from a little hut (Hüttel). The Hutterite communities of the Midwest are etymologically connected, though not otherwise. Hütter just means someone from a hut — a regular-sized hut.

The English word hut comes from the German Hütte which comes from a German verbal root hüt- meaning ‘preserve, protect, keep’. That comes from the Common Germanic *hudjon, from Proto-Indo-European *skeu- (also *keu-, *[s]ku-) ‘to cover’.

This IE root gave us many other words derived from the idea of covering or safekeeping, such as skim, scum, skillet, hose, hoard, kishke, hide (skin), hide (conceal), cuticle, culottes, re-coil, ob-scure, cyto- (ctyoplasm), and my favorite, the Latin word cunnus ‘vulva’.

Ancient misinformation:

Adolf Hitler’s father, Alois Hitler, was born to an umarried woman named Schickelgruber. However, the father of Alois recognized Alois as his son, married Miss Schickelgruber, and raised Alois under the name Hitler.

Adolf Hitler was never named Schickelgruber.

(I suspect that the WWII-era habit of calling Hitler
'Schickelgruber" came from the fact that Schickelgruber sounds “funny” to a lot of English speakers while Hitler, with its two-syllable brevity, could almost pass for British–and the hint of scandal surrounding his grandmother would have been a plus to propagandists.)

In the early 1800’s there was a lot of bloodshed between Caucasian settlers and the Native American tribes. On the Native American side, there was a famous leader named Tecumseh, who roamed around what is now Kentucky, Ohio, and Indiana and tried to put together a confederacy of Indian tribes. One of the military leaders on the settler’s side of the conflict was William Henry Harrison (aka Tippecanoe, nickname derived from a key battle his forces won). At the time Tecumseh was killed in battle, Harrison was governor of Indiana. Of course, Harrison later became President of the United States, albeit briefly.

If you go just a few miles south of Circleville, to the Chillicothe area, you can see a historical outdoor drama “Tecumseh”, which is performed nightly every summer. My impression is that rural southern Ohio could be a pretty dangerous place to live (for settlers or natives) in the early 1800s. Chillicothe was briefly the capital of Ohio in the early 1800s, just after Ohio became a state:

http://www.firstcapitalohio.com/statehood.html

And some earlier activity as well ** Philosophocles **.

It’s kind of interesting that if you look at the Dreisbach family (which the Hitler’s married into in 1873. Of course, there may also have been earlier marriages), it’s easier to get a sense of the timescale of settlement. We know that George Hitler was in the general area (of Circleville) by the late 1700’s but not when that family first settled around Pickaway County. However, the Dreisbach’s family history is more readily accessible:

Firstly, it was presumptuous, at the very least, for me to suggest ‘settlement’ began with the early pioneers:

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/parks/parks/awmarion.htm

"Due largely to the fertile soils of the Pickaway Plains, which are said to contain the richest land in Ohio, early inhabitants were attracted here. The Adena culture were among the first to settle the area 2,000 years ago. An ancient circular earthworks on the site of what is now the city of Circleville (hence the name) gave evidence to their presence. In more recent times the villages of Chief Cornstalk of the Shawnee nation were located on these plains. These same villages were the object of attention of Lord Dunmore, Governor of Virginia, who in 1774 marched his army within striking distance of the Indians."

As to the first pioneers in the general area::

*Twelve years after their disembarkation in Philadelphia, 1755 was a significant year in the history of Simon Dreisbach and his family. **1755 was the year in which land patents were filed *by Simon Sr. and his sons Adam, Jost and George, for land in Minisink Indian territory, south of the Blue Mountain, in newly established Northampton County." – they’d originally ‘bought’ 25 acres from the local Indians (not clear when, either 1749 or 1751) and had to repurchase in 1755."

But things didn’t go entirely smoothly:

"On 26 May 1757 inhabitants of Northampton County sent a petition to the governor of Pennsylvania, requesting protection from Indian raids. Seven houses and other buildings had been burned down, one man was killed, another was shot five times and one girl had been taken captive. The signers included Simon “Driesbach” and his son-in-law Henry Ulrich."

Moving onto the specifics of Circleleville (rather than the general area of the Pickaway Plains). This is what the Drieibach Family have to say:
http://www.dreisbachfamily.org/ohio.htm
"When Ohio was opened for settlement around 1800 many Pennsylvanians were attracted by its cheap and plentiful virgin land. A number of descendants of Martin Dreisbach were among them, as well as at least one descendant of Simon Dreisbach. Two roads led through southern Pennsylvania to the Ohio River: Forbes’ Road and Braddock’s Road. Zane’s Trace was an overland track in Ohio itself. The countryside which the settlers encountered was described in the Biographical History of the Scioto Valley, Ohio, Illustrated (1894) as an “almost unbroken wilderness, the forest abounding in wolves, deer, bears and wild turkeys.” Once settled in Ohio, many Dreisbachs changed the spelling of their name to Dresbach or Dresback
One of the earliest members of the family know to have gone west was Henry Dreisbach, second son of Martin. He took his wife and children to Pickaway County in 1802. There his son Daniel laid out the original Circleville in 1810.

And according to the local heritage folk:

http://www.circleville.com/history.html

The recorded history of **Pickaway County began in 1774 **when Lord Dunmore led an army into the Ohio Valley in the war with the Indians. Lord Dunmore’s troops were camped east of Circleville at Camp Charlotte. After many battles and the loss of lives, a meeting was arranged to draw up a truce to end the wars. The meeting took place on the Pickaway Plains under a huge elm tree whose branches spread 120 feet in diameter. It was during this meeting that the famous speech of Chief Logan was delivered and the tree became known as the Logan Elm. Logan’s speech has been translated into virtually every language and is widely known as one of the most eloquent speeches ever delivered.
By 1810, there were 7,124 people living in Pickaway County. Just not sure when them Hitler folk arrived, beyond it being at some point in the 1700’s.
Damn! that was fun. I do like a bit of ‘people history’.

I’ve been to that, well worth seeing.

Meanwhile, Adolf Hitler’s nearest relatives do live in the U.S., on Long Island, New York. They are the three grandsons of Adolf’s half brother, Alois Hitler Jr., although for understandable reasons they no longer use the surname Hitler. Alois married an Irishwoman, and their son William Patrick Hitler immigrated to the U.S. in the 1930s and served in the U.S. Navy in World War II.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/02/05/last.hitlers.cnna/

Hitlers father was named Schickelgruber (Hitler’s unmarried grandmothers name. Later in lif he fraudulently changed it to Hitler maistakenly spelling the name of his mothers (then) husban Hiedler. Now Alois can call himself anything he wanted too, but his name was Schickelgruber and thats all he could pass on to Little Adolph

<Dave Barry>
Gay Hitlers would be a good name for a rock band
</Dave Barry>

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html

There are lots of interesting and insightful comments here, shedding some light on the Hitler-Circleville connection. For what it’s worth, I found another Internet reference to a June 14, 1829 marriage of George Hitler and Hannah Ludwig. (a fact which might help to explain the existence of a “Hitler Ludwig Cemetary”):

http://www.scioto.org/Pickaway/marriage/1800-1850/Hi.html

BTW, my dad was born in Circleville. :eek: :eek: A lot of my relatives have lived within 20 miles of Circleville for a long time, including all my grandparents. Only recently and quite accidentally did I find out about all the Hitler-named places in Circleville.

What’s in a name? Slipster’s reference to the American WWII veteran named Hitler is intriguing. Maybe (hopefully) that is the kind of attitude that most of the still-living American Hitlers will take vis-a-vis their notorious last name.

Okay, so George and Susannah (Gay) Hitler had, at least, Sarah (born Dec 14, 1810) and also (a slight presumption as it could have been George’s brother having a son) George Junior (‘George’ again - first-born son ?). Looks like George Senior probably also had at least one sister (Caty, married Dec 19, 1812)

Daughter Sarah Hitler later married Vincent Lane on Dec 16, 1828 (that’s nice, two days after her 19th birthday) while George Junior married Hannah Ludwig on June 14th 1829 – December marriages looked to be all the rage for them that Hitler gals.

Kind of interesting, ** Philosophocles**, that you’ve found 10 Hitler’s getting married in a 24 year period (between 1825 – 49). Must have been cold winters back then…certainly looks like a few of them moved out there in the early pioneer period for that many to be getting married later on.