Words Ending In -gry

I found this on the Internet Public Library

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For reasons that we can’t determine, the “-gry question” is turning up again and again from our patrons. The best and most comprehensive answer to it comes from the Stumpers discussion list for reference librarians, and we quote from it below.

Here is the question in its correct “puzzle” form. “Think of words
ending in -gry. Angry and hungry are two of them. There are only
three words in the English language. What is the third word? The
word is something that everybody uses everyday. If you have listened
carefully , I’ve already told you what it is.”

The secret here is that the real question is “There are only three
words in the English language. What is the third word?” That
is, there are only three words in the phrase “the English
language”. The third word is “language”, which is indeed something we
use every day. The first two words are “the” and “English”.

Having found the answer to the actual riddle, however, you may
still wonder if there are any other English words ending in
-gry. There are. The intrepid reference librarians of Stumpers found
the following answers to the question:

For a very long list of -gry words, including places and other proper names, see the Solution to the /language/english/spelling/gry problem in the rec.puzzles Usenet group’s Language Puzzles Archive.
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, five words in the
English language end in -gry. In addition to the common angry and
hungry:
[ul][li]aggry, a glass bead found buried in the earth in Ghana.[/li][li]puggry, a light scarf wound around a hat or helmet to protect the[/li]head from the sun, and
[li]meagry, of meager appearance.[/ul][/li]
( --Ann Landers column, in response to question what word besides angry
and hungry ends in -gry. Daily Breeze (Torrance CA) 1/31/89; also in Los Angeles Times1/31/89 p. V8.)

William Safire in What’s the Good Word (1982) says the question is
a hoax, intended to waste the questionee’s time. He quotes David
Guralnik, editor of Simon & Schuster’s Webster’s New World Dictionary as
saying there are no other “native English words” so ending, except
angry and hungry. Guralnik notes three imported words:
[ul][li]puggry – an Indian turban; a scarf worn around a sun helmet.[/li][li]mawgry – from Old French: being regarded with displeasure.[/li][li]aggry – colored glass beads worn by Africans.[/ul][/li]
RQ, spring 1976, with 12 responses to a fall 1975 question, listed
aggry (“describes a certain type of variegated glass bead found
buried in the earth in Ghana and in England”), citing Webster’s Third
and OED, puggry, a variant spelling of puggree (“a light scarf wound around a hat or helmet to protect the head from the sun”), citing OED,
Webster’s 2d, and Funk and Wagnall’s Crossword Puzzle Word Finder.

The same article also listed gry itself (obsolete, “the grunt of a pig, the dirt under the nail; hence the veriest trifle,” further explained as “the smallest unit in
Locke’s proposed decimal system of linear measurement, being the tenth of
a line, the hundredth of an inch, and the thousandth of a
[‘philosophical’] foot.”), citing OED, also in Walker’s Rhyming
Dictionary of the English Language
and Funk and Wagnall’s New Standard
Dictionary
.

More about -gry … if you care

Hungry. Aside from angry, the only other common English word that ends in -gry. For reasons unclear, the commonest query that is addressed to
the editors at the G.C. Merriam Company goes like this: “There are three
English words that end in -gry. Hungry and angry are two of them, what is the third?” Among the 450,000 entries in Webster’s Third New
International Dictionary
, there is only one other, which is anhungry,
an obsolete word for hungry that is allowed to stay in the dictionary
because it shows up in Shakespeare. (Coriolanus. I:i:209.) Editors at
Merriam have found a few others buried deep within the OED, usually as
variant spellings. One is puggry, one of several spellings of pugaree (also pugree, puggree, puggaree), which is a scarf wound around a
sun helmet.

– Dickson, Paul. Words. New York: Delacorte Pr., 1982. p. 194-195.

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Last updated Jun 24, 1998
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Brian O’Neill
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Satan, You seem to have done a lot of research. Can you tell me if there is any other word in the English language that changes its pronounciation when capitalized? ie: polish to Polish. herb to Herb has been suggested. Then there’s the town in Texas, which is spelled Tow, (pronounced Tau), so would it be tow to Tow? Doesn’t seem fair to include such. Example: If I name my kid Ice, and pronounce it issy, do we now have ice to Ice?
Hope you can help me out?
~bb~

Poppyp,

Not to seem picky, but I’d like to point out a slight disinction just in case someone picks up your question AND in case this becomes relevant - namely, that polish and Polish are NOT a “word in the English language that changes its pronounciation when capitalized.”

They are two separate words. Of course they can be pronounced differently.

By the same token, <<be/bee, cant/can’t, yore/your/you’re>> are not ‘a word that doesn’t change pronunciation even when you change the spelling or punctuation.’

That being said, it still might be interesting to look for word groups with limits of the form you propose. Did you find the polish/Polish one yourself?

Hmm, I have apparently stumbled upon “feature” of this site. Originally the < and the > separated this list: be/bee, cant/can’t, yore/your/you’re.

No C&P.

Not to be picky here, and yes, Cecil DID do a column on this subject, but where is the column referenced in this discussion?

If that’s what’s being discussed, this is an appropriate place for it; if not, it’s really a General Questions deal.

Just trying to keep our forums on topic here. And thanks.

your humble TubaDiva/SDStaffDiv
for the Straight Dope
not normally a killjoy

PS In the past, we’ve tended to get this “riddle” about once a month . . . it incites the Fist of Death like nothing else I’ve ever seen.

[[More about -gry … if you care]]

I, for one, don’t.

If someone ASKS you this question, try sneaking pedigree by them.

TUBADIVA

The reference to the answer was a more complete answer that Cecil gave, adding more details. I certainly didn’t provide the work, but since I found it, I thought I’d share. And since is has to do with a question he did indeed answer, I thought it the right board. Sorry if I was mistaken!


Brian O’Neill
CMC International Records
www.cmcinternational.com

ICQ 35294890
AIM Scrabble1
Yahoo Messenger Brian_ONeill

[[And since is has to do with a question he did indeed answer, I thought it the right board. Sorry if I was mistaken!]]

Satan (kind of strange, addressing someone as that),

You are not technically mistaken… we’re just kind of sensitive about this particular GRY issue. It’s been discussed to death around here. But this is the appropriate MB to discuss Cecil’s columns, and he did write about it.
Jill

Just as an aside that may interest you, one of the hosts of a tacky television show in Sweden is called Gry. Interesting first name what?


What’s the ugliest part of your body?
Some say your nose, some say your toes,
But I think it’s your Mind - Frank Zappa

[[Satan, You seem to have done a lot of research. Can you tell me if there is any other word in the English language that changes its pronounciation when capitalized? ie: polish to Polish. herb to Herb has been suggested. ]]

Richard Lederer coined the term capitonym to refer to these. There are lots of them, but most involve personal or place names: Nice, France, Menachem Begin, Reubin Askew, Mount Rainier. Among the few that aren’t are Junker (Prussian aristocrat) and Ewe (African language).

SIGH Eleven posts and still no links to the original article. HERE!
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_251.html

Satan, it seems you did a more thorough reply. In particular, the phrasing of the puzzle.

What is the earliest cite for the “-gry” question?

I don’t believe that it was worded as a trick question.

I think it was meant all along as a wild goose chase.

Unfortunately, the earliest known cite for the -gry question was a radio show in 1975. As far as I know, no one has hunted down a tape of that show to find the exact wording used there.

Personally, I would say that if any hunting were to be done, it would be to find the writer of that show and apply every torture forbidden under the Geneva conventions. Completely justifiable, of course, no jury would convict…