I have no problem with this. In this day and age it’s foolish to think 007 can only be a white male. And I like the idea that the 00 designation can be handed down to other agents.
Now if they were trying to set the movie back during the Cold War, it really wouldn’t make sense. To all the snowflakes who find this the worst thing to ever happen, just repeat to yourself, “It’s just a show,
I should really just relax.”
I thought Lynch was American until I read this thread. She did a really good job with the accent in Captain Marvel.
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Just as long as they don’t make her a mermaid.
My apologies, I didn’t mean to derail the thread.
James Bond films are a part of my childhood and my adult life. I care deeply about them.
But this could be awesome, if done right. She won’t be Bond, but she could still be a great character in great movies. It’s okay to pass the torch, and it’s okay if the torch sometimes passes to a black woman.
Meh.
Maybe so. Let’s see how it goes.
I’ve seen every Bond premier in a theater since Live and Let Die. I saw the earlier ones on TV.
Are they black? I’m familiar with the first two—Yeoh was the best part of Tomorrow Never Dies—would have to look up Ms. Bingbing.
How did Black Panther do financially in East Asia? Have Chinese audiences previously been open to watching a black female action lead. I genuinely don’t know.
Or are we in the post-‘caring about whether a proposed project tests well’ stage of reeducation?
I was hoping for a Mexican James Bond
I completely agree with you. Hollywood, go write some. Make the next John Wick-type action fantasy a setting where this actress of color can go kick ass and entertain billions.
Instead of bastardizing a popular series and character to pander to someone’s idea of social retributive justice.
It seems unlikely to me that this new 007 will “carry the torch” in future films and take over the role of being the film series’ new hero, replacing James Bond. I think it much more likely that this will be the last of the Daniel Craig Bond movies, and then there’ll be a reboot/new [del]Doctor Who[/del] James Bond incarnation. That would mean the 007 position would need to be vacant for the “new” Bond. Ergo, the 007 character in this movie will be killed during the course of the movie, so there’ll be a blank slate again for the next guy (probably).
…the only Star Wars movie to be considered a flop was Solo, where the protaganist was decidedly a straight white guy. And Ghostbusters didn’t fail because it had a female cast, but because it wasn’t a good movie. Captain Marvel and Black Panther “went woke” and didn’t “go broke.” They “went woke and made billions.” Just like The Last Jedi did.
Wow.
I know that standards of beauty are subjective, but this sentence you wrote is about the ugliest thing I’ve read all day. And I read Trump’s latest tweets just a few minutes ago.
I don’t think Doctor Who has anything to worry about. And if it did: then I would suggest to you that it might have absolutely nothing to do with a female Doctor at all: I found the weakest part of last season was Chris Chibnall and his writing, I much more enjoyed the episodes he didn’t write than the ones that he did. So if there has been a drop-off, then maybe you could consider the change of show-runner to be more significant than the change of actor?
Anyone else remember how in 2015 (just prior to the release of Spectre) Daniel Craig was hilariously emphatic that he’d never do another Bond film? “I’d rather break this glass and slash my wrists. No, not at the moment. Not at all. That’s fine. I’m over it at the moment. We’re done. All I want to do is move on.”
Guess he changed his mind.
In the books, there were (IIRC) three or four other agents with the 00 prefix besides Bond. I don’t see why a retiring agent’s number couldn’t be passed to a new agent, and obviously in this day and age there’s no reason to assume that a British Secret Service agent would have to be white or male.
Never Say Never Again
I’m about the same age as you because Live and Let Die was my first Bond movie and up until the second and later Brosnan films they were required viewing at the theater. When the older films were shown on TV, we were able to stay up a bit later to see them.
Having a non white female take over the role does not mean deleting every previous incarnation. Part of me feels Bond should have never left the Cold War era and while I will watch the current movies if I’m in the mood for a Bond movie I’ll watch one of the older ones.
Frankly, I have been bored with the most recent Bond movies and still haven’t seen Specter. Having a woman take the role might get me interested in it again because it would be something different. The main thing is that the movie is good.
I don’t care if a black woman plays 007 and/or James Bond so long as I don’t get told that I HAVE to like the movies and that if I don’t the reason is racism/misogyny.
I, for the record, haven’t quite liked to last few 007 films so a change might do good.
I also have no idea who the actress is, however, they should’ve picked a much better looking one. Looks have always been part of the character; maybe Maisie Richardson-Sellers or Camille Hyde? Freema Agyeman?
(Idris Elba would’ve been great 10 or 15 years ago, he’s too old to play the role for any extended period of time)
Really, if you wanted to update the Bond films to the present day, the Chinese government would be as likely to be the antagonists as the Russian government. It’s just that the movie studio wants to release the movie in China.
“Bond is having to learn to deal with the world of #metoo”
Didn’t Austin Powers do that 20+ years ago??
Why would Bond give a flying fuck about that??? He SAVES THE WORLD. That’s why he has a licence to kill. Along with that comes a licence to fuck, drink and do anything he damn well pleases to…again…SAVE THE WORLD.
Why are the producers spoiling the GD movie?
Again…this was already sort of covered with Pierce Brosnan. I’ve only seen the first three Craig movies, and from what I recall, Bond is a broken alcoholic who doesn’t particularly fuck his way through the movies. He used that one woman he got killed in Casino (and felt the appropriate amount of guilt a broken aloholic who saves the world feels.) And of course was genuinely in love with Vesper.
I predict this will feature an Abrams-level deconstruction of Craig/Bond and be an utter disaster that will be blamed on the Patriarchy.