That’s right. Good boy, you figured it out.
You sure do seem to care deeply about your fast-food drive-thru experience for someone who is clearly far superior to “greaseball addicts.” You of course must be ordering the McSalad with a side order of McGranola and McTofu for dessert, right?
I worked some fast food back in the day. Saying, “Just a minute” and then picking from the menu what you would like to eat is not a hardship. No one I ever worked with minded that. Now, if you are high and take 5 minutes just deciding on sandwich, come inside. Otherwise, “just a minute” is fine. You won’t hold up the line much that way at all.
Part of the issue here for fast food drive through servers is that they’re rated and judged, to a significant extent, on how fast they can cram customers through the drive-through.
I rarely go to fastfood places. I was just curious. I also didn’t read the entire thread before responding, so I guess the “dead horse” comment was deserved.
Shockingly, so did I. That has jack all to do with whether or not I feel tipping coffeeshop workers today is stupid or not.
Plus, Starbucks employees get health insurance, so hearing a few cry poor over the years has pretty much made me reflexively dismiss the money complaints of all coffeeshop employees, even the ones that work at local shops.
Of course you tip bartenders. However, I was pointing out that I don’t because I don’t go to bars. Or… whoosh!
OH GAHD NO! NOT HEALTH INSURANCE!?!? Who knew these peasants were being given such riches as HEALTH INSURANCE! Why, they should feel so grateful that THEY tip YOU!
It might not matter what time of day or how busy the store is. I worked in a c-store and 20s where never a problem. 100s and to a lesser extent 50s were. We never allowed to have more than $50-70 (depedning on shift) in the register at a time and couldn’t keep anthing larger than a 10 in the till at all. Everthing else went into a drop safe. We were not allowed to open the drop safe to get change under any circumstances. We had access rolls of coins and some extra 1s & 5s, but that was it. Of course people didn’t bother reading any of the signs saying saying “Less that $50 kept in register” and “We may be unalbe to accept $50 or $100 bills” and insited on buys a pack of smokes, or a cup of coffe, or 2 gallons of gas with a 100 and threw hissy fits when their sale was declined. :smack:
Before we switched to mandatory prepay/pay at pump I once had a woman come in and try to prepay for $20 of gas with a $100. Picture a well-dressed middle age white soccer mom driving a minivan (in a neighborhood where student ghetto meets actual ghetto). Of course she threw I fit when I declined her sale. She then went back to her van, waited a few minutes, and pressed the pay inside button so the other employee turned the pump on for while I was busy with another sale. She pumped less than $20 worth of gas and came in and verly snottily informed me that I now had to take her $100 bill. She was smiling. I told her she was right and reluctantly gave her change. Including a $25 box of rolled pennies. 
The point, that you have very artfully dodged, is that the vast majority coffeeshop employees do not fall under the category of “tipped employees” and are paid a wage over minimum wage. And as I tried to show, many of them are compensated considerably better than other retail workers. Offering health insurance to part-time workers is a BIG DEAL and they should be applauded. But hearing their employees whine about how tough they’ve got it does not endear to reach for the tip cup.
You’re adorable that you believe what you said had anything that required artful dodging.
Then why did you even bring it up when I said something that was clearly a reference to a time when I was working in a coffeeshop and making about $6 an hour?
… **One **chain coffeeshop offers health insurance to a portion of its employees, and suddenly that means they’re all drowning in money? Have you listened to yourself talk lately?
**You **may choose to not tip someone who just made a drink that requires a reasonable amount of skill, because they make slightly more than minimum wage and potentially wouldn’t be driven bankrupt by a poorly timed medical emergency. However, I, personally, enjoy expressing my appreciation for a well-done job with an additional gratuity, especially because I have personal experience into how hard it is to get by on a barista’s income, which I have fortunately greatly exceeded post-college.
You said you don’t have much interaction with bartenders. Do you tip bellhops? Taxi drivers? There are plenty of classes of jobs in the U.S. where a gratuity isn’t factored into the income but is socially expected and appreciated.
And you are still completely missing the point. Acting mock horrified that I think coffeeshop employees already making a decent wage shouldn’t be tipped just makes you look petty and argumenative.
Because when you were making $6 an hour it probably went a little further than it does now. You were also likely a teenager or a college student.
Drowning in money? Who said that? And Starbucks offers health insurance to most of their employees (all full-time, most part-time), not a portion.
Don’t deal with bellhops or taxi drivers either. Sorry.
No, I don’t care deeply. Those that do are the ones behind me honking their jiggly asses off because I paused at the menu. No, I don’t consider myself clearly far superior to them, but thank you for the vote of confidence. And I don’t know why you would assume I’d be getting a salad just because I said I don’t frequent the joint- I also said, if you had bothered to read for comprehension, that I might know I want a burger just not what kind, or a chicken sandwich but I want to see what the choices are.
I guess you read the posts like you read the menu, which is to say, not at all.
2002 through 2005. Not that long ago at all. And yes, I was a college student, and my expenses were less, but what does that matter? The fact remains that I got paid a shitty wage and what tips I got helped a lot.
AFAIK, it’s anyone who works over 20 hours a week. I didn’t say it was a small portion, nor a large portion, simply a portion, because I don’t know the stats on how many of their employees work 20+ hours a week. None of this changes the fact that you’re treating one small class of employees getting basic benefits as being a sign that baristas all have a comfortable income that allows them to easily support themselves and their families.
A waitperson will make much more money with their base wage plus tips than a barista making a flat $7.50 an hour. So why do you think that the barista makes enough that you don’t need to tip them, especially when they’re providing a customized service that requires some level of skill and training, where the social norm is to provide some kind of gratuity for said service?
You don’t go to bars, you don’t stay in hotels, you don’t take taxis… Jeeze, live a little, will ya? 
And at home, Nathaniel sits on a spike, and I sit on Nathaniel. Because two spikes would be an indulgence!
Yep, you had to take her $100 bill. However, you didn’t have to give her change for it, if you didn’t have it. 
I worked in a convenience store for a while, too, in Las Vegas, and we were reprimanded if the boss or one of the managers caught us with a lot of money in our drawer. People would come in from the laundromat next door, wanting to buy quarters from us…well, if we changed all that money, then we wouldn’t have enough quarters for our own purposes. On occasion, we’d have someone purchase something that they’d opened in the store, but they used a fifty or hundred. We’d smile and say that we didn’t carry that much in the drawer, but they were welcome to wait around a while, and as we sold stuff, we’d give them the money, marking down each ten or twenty that we’d paid out. I bet Soccer Mom would have really appreciated you doing that for her.
The problem with paying for a pack of gum with a twenty at a c store isn’t necessarily that the cashier won’t have the change for that one transaction. It’s that the cashier can’t keep giving out that much change without having someone run to the bank, or open the safe. The cashier might have access to a dropsafe, which will dispense a small amount of change (in our case, we could get up to $10), but will have the transactions limited to one every five or ten minutes. And it’s not the cashier who gets to decide how much “float” (cash) s/he keeps in the drawer throughout the shift, nor how much float to keep from one day to the next. A business depends on keeping enough float to make normal transactions, and putting the rest of the cash into the bank where it can be drawing interest. Keeping a smaller float will also reduce the risk of both outside robberies and sticky-fingered clerks. If you’re the first person of the day, expect that the cash drawers don’t have much in the way of reserves. While a business can make reasonable amounts of change, they aren’t banks, and shouldn’t be expected to act like banks. If you have large amounts of money to change, go to a bank, not a convenience store. That clerk might be down to a five dollar bill and nine ones, since s/he’d dropped the last four twenties into the safe, and given out most of the change in the drawer. Again, THE CLERK DOESN’T HAVE ACCESS TO MOST OF THE CASH IN THE DROP SAFE.
Oh, I read and understood your post just fine. I was simply making fun of you.
I actually am not that exercised about someone taking a minute to read the menu in the drive-thru lane. I just found it mock-worthy that you’re so worked up about this that you’re calling other people “greaseball addicts” and whatnot. Calm down, dude. Eat a burger or something.