You know, when 2001 approached, I already heard the fingernails on the proverbial chalkboard. PROFESSIONAL news anchors and other people in the public ear would say “and” within numbers over 100. I have been hearing it ever since. “And” when used in a number denotes a decimal point.
Ok… I see my point isn’t as strong as I had learned throughout my life. Perhaps I need to relax on this one a little. It still sounds better to me WITHOUT “and.”
Two thousand one.
Two thousand and one.
I’ll take the one that sounds better. Which, for me, is with the “and”.
Well, I admit it’s unfortunate that you can find a cite that’s also wrong, especially one that purports to ‘educate’ kids, but I believe omitting the word ‘and’ in numbers over 100 is an American dialectal thing.
To others it’s the omission that’s uneducated. A seppo across the aisle at work said that it was one of the hardest habits to break, but she had to do so because she was sick of everyone correcting her.
The “and” sounds like you’re doing math on the spot…
Mr. X: “One hundred twenty and four.”
Mr. Y: “Yes, that equals one hundred, four.”
I understand that it varies by locale. I happen to be in the USA, where it is considered to be correct without “and” (or so I was taught).
Umm… maybe I’m in the minority here, but I don’t think saying “Two thousand one” versus “two thousand and one” will make the difference between a life of luxury and a life as a pauper. As far as grammar goes, this argument isn’t exactly on par with “Joe and me” versus “Joe and I”.
Oh, and to kinda answer the statement, I say whichever one comes to mind first.
Much as I would like to defy the wishes of my psychotic demon cow of a third-grade teacher, who would have a nuclear meltdown screaming fit if any child used ‘and’ in a number, I actually prefer the sound of ‘two-thousand-three’ over ‘two-thousand-and-three’.
I’m still partying like it’s nineteen-hundred and ninety-nine.
Two Thousand and One
Two Thousand Ten…
Wonder why the movies were named thus. Or am I remembering incorrectly…
They were just named 2001 and 2010. How you pronounce them is entirely up to you.
Could be worse; we could count like Germans:
Ein und zwenzig, zwei und zwenzig…
In Australia we use the language correctly and always use an and.
(Can I end a sentence with and?)
Well you managed it twice! I reckon you should use ’ '('s) though around the word ‘and’.
May sound picky but think of the fun if you do the ’ thing with your fingers everytime you type it. Hours of entertainment ‘and’ strange looks.
Yes. I was taught to say,“One hundred one”.
Not “One hundred and one”
“Four score seven years ago” just doesn’t sound right.
Probably because it’s “wrong.” Not to say they’re entirely unrelated, but they’re probably about as similar as Roman numerals and Arabic numerals.
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That is the type of nonsense up with which I will not put!
OK, maybe I should have previewed that one first…
Personally, I just stick with “Twenty-oh Three.” I mean, in 1995, we didn’t say “Nineteen-hundred and ninety-five,” or “One-thousand nine-hundred and ninety-five.” So why is everyone saying “Two-thousand three” (Or “two-thousand and three”)?
If everyone followed my lead, all this horrible fighting would stop.
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Mr. N: “Actually, that equals one hundred, twenty-four.”
(Do I get a pedant’s ribbon for being so pedestrian?)
It’s odd - I don’t think I’ve heard people pronouncing one hundred “and” something, much less twenty “and” something, but it seems more common with numbers one thousand and higher. Maybe the “and” is for the comma?
In Spanish, on the other hand, 16 is diez y seis (ten and six).
:smack: Crap. My bad.