Likeable nevertheless. Unelectable only because of the content of his politics. More’s the pity.
W does not project strength in any form, merely impenetrable stubbornness. Doesn’t seem to have gotten in his way all that much.
:rolleyes: You’re not talking about any of this bullshit, are you? Signs of a prickly personality, to be sure, but anyone who calls it a sign of mental illness needs their head examined.
And shame on them!
Perhaps if the opposing party would field an electable candidate. Bush was SOOOO beatable last time. The Dems should have beat him with a stick and made him beg for more. Instead, they lost. What happened? Kerry was unlikeable.
So the kingmakers in the party need to pitch someone else. Not Hillary, not anyone from the northeast. Not Obama. When Katie Couric and her kin get their marching orders on who to portray in what kind of light next year so you will know who you want to vote for, they better be favoring an electable person, or we will have another Republican in the White House.
The guy comes off as a slick used-car salesman. I feared him being a heart-beat away from the presidency; I sure as hell wouldn’t put him there directly.
You have an interesting take on likeableness, BG. You need to think about whether others would like him, not whether you like him. I find the guy to be a whiny little twirp who happens to be smart. No way would I want to have a beer with him.
Edwards is way too much of a lighweight. McCain would crush him with his pinky finger. I think Obama would have more of a chance than Edwards would. Bush only got away with being a lighweight in '00 because “no one could have imagined” that people would fly airplanes into buildings and that we’d end up at war.
Why do you think elections are run today like they were in 1850? There’s behind the scenes stuff, but the nominating is very out in the open.
:Rolleyes:
The quest for someone “electable” got us Kerry.
I also have the ability to tell if someone is crazy based on very brief observation. She has the kind of crazy that Micheal Jackson has. She is so rich, and so isolated, that her reality is in a sense a fantasy world in which she can do anything she wants. In addition, the fact that she thinks this is a proper way to act when her husband is RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT is enough to indicate an unbalanced mind. When you are running a campaign, you kiss the ass of the fourth estate. When you get a question you can’t deal with, you handle it in the usual ways, obfuscation, misdirection, you do not tell the press to “Shove it!”
After that fine day, you would have had an easier time getting a public statement from Jimmy Hoffa. 
Barring a minor miracle, I think it’s safe to say the Democrats’ hopes for the White House are doomed. Maybe if Obama were 100% white instead of half…
But that’s probably a good thing, as long as they can hold onto Congress so we have a divided government. I can only imagine the shrieks of terror that would sweep the country if the Dems somehow found themselves in control of the entire government for more than couple days without supervision.
Ah yeah, like that guy who called a New York Times reporter “a real asshole” in front of a microphone. And then his VP candidate agreed with him. I forget their names just now. 
[shrug] That situation prevailed 1993-95 without serious damage to the republic – it compared rather favorably, in fact, with what came after.
Correction to my last post, it was actually “major league asshole.”
Yeah, the whole “Kerry is electable!” meme just never made sense to me. It seems like everyone started voting for Kerry–not because they wanted Kerry–but because they thought everyone else did. Weird.
I always thought that if Dean had got the nomination he’d have beaten Bush in a landslide. But…Dean was against the war! That meant he was unelectable! Except it turns out that everyone’s against the war nowadays.
An aside…I’m just amazed at how easily the tone-deaf Bush team played the vote in support of the war. So many Democrats voted for the war even though they opposed it, just because they didn’t want that “no” vote used against them, like the “no” votes on the first Gulf War were used. It was going to be a quick popular war, so to vote against it would be politically foolish, so they stifled their objections, held their noses and voted “yes”.
It was a masterwork of political gamesmanship by the Bush team, to force all the nay-sayers to rubber-stamp the war and make themselves accomplices and co-conspirators. Which makes their later political failures so mysterious.
The nominating. Yah. But during the primaries and even before, the candidates are already being defined by buffoons like Wolf Blitzer and Brian Williams and George Stephanopolis. They sit around on TV and by the very conversations they beam into your home are already deciding for you who looks like a “viable candidate”. By the time the election rolls around they are already spinning their choice into first place. The popular candidate is often pushed aside for the guy the bosses want. Just ask Howard Dean. They took that guy apart, then gave him the chairmanship as a pacifier.
And how does anyone figure Kerry was electable? Seriously, some folks need to get out of Manhattan more often. Don’t they realize the bulk of the country hates NYC, Boston, and that whole scene? Kennedy overcame it with charisma. Kerry? No charisma chromosome. Sheesh, why I am giving away all this free advice to the opposition, only to take guff I don’t know.
Things that seem obvious to me seem to escape the Democratic party lately. They need to get with the program. They continue to come off as whiners, and until they come up with something more compelling than let’s lose the war, have gay marriage, raise taxes, and oh noes! GWB is going to put a policeman on your womb booga booga booga, I think that they are going to have trouble.
I guess it’s hard to run against a strong economy.
Actually, I thought that was kind of cool. They didn’t know the mic was open I don’t think. At least they didn’t do it deliberately and to the reporter’s face.
Two things:
First: Why?
Second: I voted for Kerry-Edwards in 2004. I despise both of them. Really and truly could not stand either one. The Democratic primary voters really screwed the pooch in an election that Bush should have lost by a large margin. If I did not think Bush-Cheney were the worst admin in my lifetime and my father’s lifetime, I would not have vote for Kerry-Edwards.
In 2000, I was oh so smart. I am a green republican, so I voted for Nader. That way I could take pride in not voted for the boob and crook or the robot-like Al Gore and his evil censoring wife. Not that my vote mattered as NJ went heavy for Gore in 2000, but I wish Gore had won in 2000 now. What I really wish is 2000 came down to McCain vs. Bradley. Either was a better choice than Bush or Gore.
BTW: I am also a hawk, and I have a weird knee-jerk attitude that no republican candidate should be a draft dodger and Bush was a draft dodger in my opinion. I don’t have a problem with a Dem being a draft dodger as I believe that can be in keeping with a democrats ideals. Clinton could have said, “I thought the war was dumb and stupid and I found a legal way to avoid it by doing great in an exempt college program.”
Jim
On preview: Lemur866 I liked Dean, I would have happily voted for him.
I am convinced that Gore wouldn’t fight even the most urgent war imaginable because all those bombs make smoke and dust that would contribute to GLOBAL WARMING! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I’ve never heard DK whine, not in any Nixonesque fashion. He complains a great deal, to be sure, but that is part of a pol’s job, especially one who represents a minority POV. As for the rest of your judgment, the kindest thing to be said for it is that it does not in any way reflect ill . . . on Kucinich.
Please. This is a fascinating conspiracy story, and I’m aware that not everybody in the party leadership liked Dean, but none of this meshes with reality. In reality, Dean lost the primaries in Iowa because he didn’t have the organization or the boots on the ground, and was screwed.
Experience, war hero, not very liberal.
's okay, nobody’s going to take your advice.
I think you ought to get your internet connection upgraded - because I’m guessing you wrote this post and hit submit several months ago. 
Sure, some PI lawyers are greedy scumbags, but what they do is part of our system and one that would be sorely missed if eliminated – by the average Joe, that is. And I’ve known many were sincere, upstanding warriors for the underdog. No way do they deserve any of the animus that the corporate-funded “tort reform” propaganda has heaped on them.