So now he’s lying about saying ‘black’?
- When referencing “black people”, he was saying “them”, not “you”.
- He tied it to the fictional “Department Of Public Welfare”-Black people, welfare, them-get the picture?
- He copped to saying it, and even provided a reference! Why the fuck would he capitulate to the media when so many of his fans are willing to say he said otherwise? Normally, this third point would be enough to but an end to this controversy, but i think this thread left normal a long time ago.
We’ve secretly replaced Rick Santorum’s dog whistle with a regular whistle. Let’s watch.
Look buddy, we all already know you are stupid as hell. There’s no need for you to continue to show it (eg, by displaying your lack of understanding of the word “liar” and the difference between a fact and an opinion).
ROFL! Whether he meant to say that or not, that was an awesome comment
To add some context, I don’t think Santorum wants to make black people’s lives better. I don’t think he wants to make anyone’s lives better. He just wants to make sure everybody’s peepees and hoohahs are being used the way God wants them to be used. Because anything else is icky and makes God cry and lose his erection. Why do you people hate America and want God to be unable to get it up?
Again, this sounds like deliberate stupidity. Sometimes people stumble over their words, and when they do, they do not always start to say the next word in sequence. Sometimes you get gibberish (and we’re already discussing a Rick Santorum speech). But if I had to guess, I’d say he stumbled over saying “people’s lives,” which starts with a p and not a b and makes the word fragment “ply.” Those happened to be the next words in the sentence.
I’d lean toward “no,” particularly if he did not intend to say it.
Oh my God, Bela Lugosi was actually saying “Blaaaack!” in all those Dracula movies!
The problem is that he wasn’t speaking of black people. If he’d been discussing the black community in some way, I could understand this interpretation. He plainly was not doing that.
I will refrain from snarkily asking where you work.
I already knew you were a dimwit-
And this argument is used only by people who have no argument. Moving on.
He does dispute it. That’s what this thread was about initially: his implausible-sounding explanation of what he said. In the CBS story, he does not dispute that he said it. As I said in another post, he makes the rookie mistake of trying to explain what he said without being sure what was being discussed. He’s asked why he said something about black people and assumes he was actually talking about black people. It’s a dumb thing to do, but you have to keep in mind that he’s an idiot.
Agreed. I’m not arguing that this is too dumb for Santorum. I’m saying that the comment does not make sense with “black people” in there. And when I say it doesn’t make sense, I don’t mean it in the way that “sex for pleasure is evil” doesn’t make sense, but in the way that “purple monkey dishwasher” doesn’t make sense.
“Black people” makes even less sense in the context of the longer clip Czarcasm posted. I am annoyed at having to explain this and I may be losing IQ points from having listened to that idiotic rambling. The questioner asks Santorum about foreign governments having too much influence on the U.S. and his example is there is a polar bear on Coke cans. This is an adult voter and I doubt he should even be allowed to cross the street by himself. Then Santorum takes that question and uses it to blather (or did I say blacker?!) about a bunch of things that don’t have much to do with foreign influence, including the loss of manufacturing jobs and overexpansion of federal aid programs. I guess the gist is that those programs are “European” and not American. Total asshole.
I think people here are hearing nothing but the word “welfare” and assuming he’s going on about welfare queens, which would explain why he said he doesn’t want to help black people. The thing is, he’s not talking about that, and it’s even clearer if you can listen to the longer clip without stabbing yourself in the eardrum. He says manufacturing jobs are going away and the Iowa government is going to be penalized if it doesn’t get enough people on Medicaid. He says “they” - meaning the government - wants to get “you” (meaning his lilly-white audience and people like them) onto federal programs. That’s the big problem with the “black people” theory right there: he says the government wants to get these voters onto the rolls of programs like Medicaid and Social Security, and that’s a bad thing. He’s talking to white voters when he says this. So how does that fit with saying he doesn’t want to give money to black people? He’s saying he wants to create jobs and doesn’t want to give money to anyone. It’s a pretty stupid comment on its own, but instead of pointing out that he’s giving lipservice to blue collar manufacturers (for whom he would do fuck-all if elected) and saying Social Security and Medicaid and other programs are bad, you’re listening to him trip over his tongue and saying it means he is a racist.
What he said sounds more like he didn’t remember saying it, but since there was a quote he assumed he did.
I love seeing Republicans get called on their dog whistle racism but I’ve listened to the quote over and over and I don’t hear ‘black.’ I think he just stumbled over his words.
While he displays ignorance about the economy, misrepresents Obama’s plans and provides no logical link between cutting taxes and more jobs, he definitely does NOT say “black” or anything close. Maybe he was starting to say it and then backed off, but he doesn’t complete enough of the word for anyone to confidently claim that he meant to say black. If anything, it sounded more like “blind people.” Or maybe “Bligh people”, displaying some sympathy for the captain’s loyalists on the Bounty.
I was saving that joke, so now I need a replacement. Um, Santorum doesn’t want to give money to… uh… Gwyneth Paltrow’s mom?
I hear “bly people”, which could be black people with a southern accent and a compression of the final k into the p of people, or could be a stumbling of the people and lives (p and b are both similar letters as far as the lips go.)
His explanation of ‘Waiting for Superman’ sounds like he doesn’t remember making the statement at all but is trying to guess what he might have been thinking at the time.
All in all I think its about 50/50 chance either way as to whether he said black or not.
Given that this no matter what he said doesn’t change my opinion that he is a complete Santorum, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this account.
If the score is 84-3 there is no need to contest the field goal.
The question becomes, then, how will this affect his chances with black voters? Not very much, I would imagine.
Does the fact that Newt said the exact same thing change anyone’s mind about what Santorum might have said?
Gingrich didn’t say the exact same thing. He kind of said the opposite, in fact, when he said he’d reform Social Security to better serve African-American men.
Wonder if he stole that idea from Chris Rock.
I hope you don’t think I’m a Republican. I’m not. If anything, the last couple of years have galvanized me against that party. I’ll gladly vote for Obama against anyone the GOP runs.
Well I guess he just doesn’t care about the Buuuu vote.
Rick Santorum doesn’t care about bly people!
I’m not just a liberal; i consider myself a leftist and i don’t think he said “black.”
I think, in some ways, this gets to the heart of the matter, and not just regarding black voters.
Whether he did or did not say black does not really change my opinion of him either way. Finding out that he did say black would not make me dislike him any more, and finding out that he did not say black would not make me dislike him any less.
As for the people who support Santorum, i doubt any of them would abandon him for saying that all black people are on welfare. As i said earlier, stereotypes of the black welfare recipient have been a staple of conservative politics for decades, and i’m sure plenty of Santorum’s supporters buy into the rhetoric.
I’ve listened to this, repeatedly, on my studio audio equipment - over speakers and headphones.
I still hear “blyte people.”
That being the case, it gets be more a matter of accidentally saying what he was only supposed to insinuate.
Like the kid in that movie? “I see blyte people.”