You’d rather he not inspect his hanky and leave a stray booger nugget on his chin?
Double Ick.
'Cos we’re all commies, of course! We consider littering and regicide to be GOOD things!
Sheesh, try to keep up.
Great! Let’s base ALL our policy decisions on the example set by Mob bosses!
Movie Mob bosses, no less!
Because for some bizarre reason TPTB refuse to rename the forum “Politics”.
Really? The capstone moment of Obama’s speech was gun control. It was by far the most important thing he spoke of evidenced by the fact that he saved it until last, it got them most applause from the Democrats, and he was more passionate about it than anything else he spoke about by far.
To ban it from a conversation about the speech leaves there nothing to talk about.
You might as well close the thread.
To you both, and others who continue to pile on me about gun control. I am forbidden from responding, and if I do I’m sure I will be warned.
But you can probably feel free to continue to get your shots in at me. I doubt anything will happen to you.
Your bravery in continuing to hammer away at me is very admirable, given how my hands and feet are tied.
Seemed to me the most passion was for voter-access and that 102-year-old voter.
He devoted 158 words to voter access. He devoted 380 words to gun control.
Obama stopped three times during voter access for applause. He stopped ten times during gun control for applause.
He mentioned voter access first, but gun control was the last item in the speech.
For voter access he said he was forming a committee. For gun control he demanded a vote. Eight times.
There’s no contest.
Did you happen to notice that the standing ovation he received while demanding a vote was very bi-partisan and included Speaker Boehner standing and clapping behind him? You seem to be outside your own party on this one.
They might indeed want a vote. Do you think that their vote will be “yes”?
You want to put money on it?
I’ll put money on the electorate, and the GOP won’t want to be on the opposite side of that.
Maybe once we actually have a vote scheduled.
Exactly. The GOP is on the wrong side of the public on this one and they know it.
"…history says that raising the minimum wage has little if any impact on job creation. A study published in November 2010 in the Review of Economics and Statistics, for instance, found “no detectable employment losses from the kind of minimum wage increases we have seen in the United States.” Another published in 2011 “found no impact on hours worked or employment levels.”
The seminal study of the minimum wage, done by economists David Card and Alan Krueger, found that job creation was actually strengthened by an increase in the minimum wage. This result has been found time and time again. So Rubio and Ryan have the history exactly backwards: raising the minimum wage results in higher wages and more purchasing power for workers, not job losses." http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/13/1587381/top-republicans-oppose-minimum-wage/
Links to the studies listed in the story:
http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/157-07.pdf (pdf warning)
An Increased Minimum Wage Is Good Policy Even During Hard Times - Center for American Progress Action
http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf
It seems to me that raising the minimum wage would be stimulative. Given the known wage stagnation, I’d support that.
That’s why, every so often when they remodel an old government office, they stumble across a pile of century-old alcohol registraton forms.
:dubious: You’re not thinking supply-side!
See post #147 for my response to this.
Yeah, you are correct. But getting this point through can be quite difficult. I wonder what the reaction will be in the political climate we have today. They don’t think rationally or take science into account. I mean just look at how many major corporations threatened to cut jobs, or hours in response to the ACA or just the re-election of Obama.
Debaser, there are 300+ million guns in this country. Opposition to gun control is irrationally fierce. To think that gun registration will result in confiscation, at any point in your lifetime, is not only incredibly naive, but also irresponsible.
REGARDING GUN CONTROL:
We have a half dozen gun threads going and one thread on the SotU. Any more attempts to hijack this thread into gun control will receive Warnings.
As to the claim that removing gun control would remove any point to the thread, that smacks of tunnel vision. Immigration, Global Warming, Minimum Wage, and a number of other topics were prominent in the address and provide fodder for a number of observations.
[ /Moderating ]