Missouri’s population is just barely moderate enough to punish a man for claiming that some rape is legitimate. Tennessee, however, not so much. Tennessee is Alabama’s northern border, and we saw what happened in Crimson Tide country last night.
It was the state legislatures that did the gerrymandering that got the Republicans where they are today.
House Republicans won about 1.4 million more votes than Democrats in 2016. That’s what got them where they are today.
Maybe the Democrat Party should clean up their own house first? Or not. Whatever gives them an edge in elections is OK, but those other guys definitely shouldn’t be doing the same thing?
“The Economist calls Illinois’ fourth congressional district one of the most strangely drawn and gerrymandered congressional districts in the country.”
OK, yeah, that’s pretty gerrymandered. But as you said, it’s one of the most gerrymandered. One of the most how many? And what are the other districts on that list? Are we looking at “one of the top ten”, where entries 1-9 are all Republican districts?
Got numbers on '12 and '14 too? I mean, I know in Michigan, the popular vote results in the past few elections comes no where close to how the parties actually represent us in Congress and Lansing. Dems consistently draw more votes than Pubs, yet somehow the Pubs have more members of Congress and run the state legislature. Funny, that.
And the results of 2016’s election are no where near “what got [Democrats] where they are today,” and I’m pretty sure you know this.
The important thing is that both sides do it. :rolleyes:
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
And I’m on a mobile now, so no, I don’t have handy access to numbers from previous elections. They also don’t have much to do with the composition of the House in 2017, but if you want to use them to make some point about gerrymandering, I’m sure you could look them up for yourself.
Popular vote:
GOP-49.1 %, Dems - 48%
Seats
GOP-55.4%, Dems - 44.5%
The linked article said, “The Economist calls Illinois’ fourth congressional district one of the most strangely drawn and gerrymandered congressional districts in the country.”
Are you suggesting that gerrymandering is OK if it’s only a little gerrymandered? Or that gerrymandering is OK if the Democrat Party does it?
The important thing to remember is that both sides do it, but some Democrats, or maybe some Hillary-worshippers, demand that the other side must stop. Maybe they don’t like the competition?
What a stunningly disingenuous comment.
Just like in 2012 when House Democrats won about 1.4 million more votes than Republicans. This resulted in house seats being split 234 - 201 in favor of the Republicans. Wait… what?
doorhinge, I think you must have made a copy-paste mistake in post #50. You quote me, but then what you said after that has nothing at all to do with what I said in the quote. What were you intending to say?
The redistricting happened after the 2010 census, and affected the 2012 elections. (REDMAP provides a clear description of the strategy to focus on those state races.) But actually, I really was referring more to the kind of the voters they rely on, as part of successful redistricting and House control, (as well as to get out the vote). It is because of their debt to this base, for example, that they’re willing to rush through poorly designed bills to replace the ACA at any cost. Even if they wanted to, Democrats wouldn’t be able to generate votes from a base with that much success. Yes, everyone tries to benefit from redistricting, but the Republicans shrewdly took it to a whole new level, and have been riding the wave of that windfall since.
Another one apparently quitting.
One who’s not planning to go, but probably should.
Jeff Flake not running for reelection.
ETA: I’m listening to him live right now. He’s slamming Trumpism.
Much talk of fighting back and not letting the savages win. Without him. Flake is flaking out.
Arizona already looked like a winnable Senate seat for the Democrats – now it looks even better. The very slim chances of a Democratic takeover of the Senate are now slightly less slim.
He won’t be leaving till his term ends in January 2019, right? So he can stick around sticking spanners in the Trump works for over a year without fear of electoral blowback.