2021 SDMB [THEMED] Celebrity Death Pool

There’s also Ron Howard. He did an episode as a child actor.

But you have Holliman, who was the lead in the first episode.

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Theme: Double Initial Alphabet

Alan Arkin
Barbara Bain
Christopher Cross
David Dickinson
Elizabeth Estensen
Fiona Fullerton
Gilbert Gottfried
Harry Hamlin
Ian Irvine
Janet Jackson
Kevin Kline
Larry Lamb
Mark Mothersbaugh

BACKUPS
Alan Alda
Brian Benben
Cathy Lee Crosby

Presumptuous NB: as before, my backups will actually be replacement initials as appropriate.

Star Trek III - The Search for Points

(For the third year running, here is my list of Star Trek Alumni. In three years I’ve had exactly one nominee expire, let’s hope that’s a record that continues)

Main List:

Diana Muldaur
William Shatner
Avery Brooks
Brent Spiner
Walter Koenig
Malcolm McDowell
John Larroquette
Scott Bakula
Nichelle Nichols
Christopher Lloyd
Christopher Plummer
George Takei
Patrick Stewart

Alternates:

Kate Mulgrew
Wil Wheaton
Colm Meaney

Former NFL players diagnosed with CTE:

Larry Johnson
Steve Gleason
Kyle Turley
Frank Wycheck
O. J. Brigance
Andrew Glover
Tim Green
Leonard Marshall
Darryl Talley
Jim McMahon
Brent Boyd
Fulton Kuykendall
Mike Adamle

Alternates:
Tim Shaw
Wayne Clark

Women Writers (mostly mysteries)

Margaret Atwood
Sara Paretsky
Anne Rice
Louise Penny
Joan Didion
Fanny Flagg
Marge Piercy
Kathy Reichs
Patricia Cornwell
Nevada Barr
Janet Evanovich
Marcia Muller
J.A. Jance

Alternates
Tana French
Laurie R. King

If I was given the names Anna Pigeon and Nevada Barr and had to guess which was the name of the character and which was the real birth name of the author, I probably would have gotten it wrong.

Thanks for doing this again, phungi! Theme is Lawyers, which I always intend to switch out of for something more clever… although this past ‘Release the Kraken’ year did make for some entertaining new entries.

  1. Harry Whittington, b. March 3, 1927. Attorney.
  2. F. Lee Bailey, b. June 10, 1933. Attorney.
  3. Alan Dershowitz, b. September 1, 1938. Attorney.
  4. Victoria Toensing, b. October 16, 1941. Attorney.
  5. Robert Shapiro, b. September 2, 1942. Attorney.
  6. Rudy Giuliani, b. May 28, 1944. Attorney.
  7. Joseph diGenova, b. February 22, 1945. Attorney.
  8. Ty Cobb, b. August 25, 1950. Attorney.
  9. Larry Klayman, b. July 20, 1951. Attorney.
  10. Jack Thompson, b. July 25, 1951. Attorney.
  11. L. Lin Wood, b. October 19, 1952. Attorney.
  12. Sidney Powell, b. May 1, 1955. Attorney.
  13. Charles Carreon, b. April 7, 1956. Attorney.

Alt1. Michael Cohen, b. August 25, 1966. Attorney.
Alt2. Jay Sekulow, b. June 10, 1956. Attorney.
Alt3. Ken Starr, b. July 21, 1946. Attorney.

Plain text list:

Harry Whittington
F Lee Bailey
Alan Dershowitz
Victoria Toensing
Robert Shapiro
Rudy Giuliani
Joseph diGenova
Ty Cobb
Larry Klayman
Jack Thompson
L Lin Wood
Sidney Powell
Charles Carreon

Michael Cohen
Jay Sekulow
Ken Starr

Adapted from a lawyer joke:

"What do you call 16 lawyers on a Celebrity Death Pool list?

A good start

Sadly, many holdovers from prior year
Theme: Evil and its Minions (IMHO)

  • Donald Trump - orange hued evil incarnate
  • Mike Pence - evangelical hypocritical bobble-head
  • Mike Pompeo - Secretary of State - sycophant, political fixer
  • Rudy Giuliani - conspiracy theorist, crooked fixer for Trump, batshit insane
  • Betsy DeVos - paid for position of Secretary of Education
  • Brett Kavanaugh - “Sometimes I had too many beers. I liked beer. I still like beer.”
  • Mark Meadows – Chief of Staff, maskless sycophant extraordinaire
  • William Barr - Supposed US Attorney General, slime
  • Mitch McConnell - From GQ: “This man has no morals, nor any respect for the rule of law, nor any respect for those who would defy him. For his own personal gain, he permitted Russia to continue manipulating the November election so that his party’s candidate could win—giving us a quivering mound of chili drippings for president.”
  • Stephen Miller - WH advisor, architect of hard-line immigration policy, including separating families, putting children in cages
  • Ivanka Kushner - "She is not passively complicit in the Trump administration’s policies; she is an active architect "
  • Kim Jong-un - Supreme Leader of North Korea, and just as deranged as our own Dear Leader
  • Devin Nunes - Rep. Nunes cares not for the truth or his constituents. His lies serve only one master - Trump
    Alternates:
    * Vladimir Putin - President of Russia, top puppeteer
  • Dick Cheney - throwback to when evil was just heartless, and didn’t include aiding and abetting a pandemic

Plain List:
Donald Trump
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
Rudy Giuliani
Betsy DeVos
Brett Kavanaugh
Mark Meadows
William Barr
Mitch McConnell
Stephen Miller
Ivanka Kushner
Kim Jong-un
Devin Nunes

Alternates:
Vladimir Putin
Dick Cheney

Destroyers of Democracy IV

My fourth try with this list. In 2018, no one died, dammit. I scored my first and only points (in this thread) in 2019 with David Koch’s welcome death, but struck out again in 2020. May the rest of these people join David Koch in hell ASAP.

This year I have added two people who should never have gotten within 100 miles of the Supreme Court, We start, of course, with the true leader of the Republican party.

Vladimir Putin
Donald Trump
Mike Pence
Mitch McConnell
Lindsay Graham
Charles Koch
Stephen Miller
Brett Kavanaugh
Amy Coney Barrett
Rush Limbaugh
Rupert Murdoch
Robert Mercer
David Deniston Smith

Alternates:

Chuck Grassley
Steve King
Matt Gaetz

Mercer is the money behind Trump, and Smith is the Chairman of Sinclair Broadcasting, an ultra-right wing media empire

Theme: Dark Shadows

  1. Mitchell Ryan: The original Burke Devlin
  2. Katheryn Leigh Scott: Maggie Evans/Josette
  3. Alexandra Isles: Victoria Winters
  4. Nancy Barrett: Carolyn Stoddard
  5. Diana Millay: Laura Collins
  6. Kate Jackson: Daphne Harridge
  7. Jerry Lacy: The Reverend Trask
  8. Lara Parker: Angelique Collins
  9. Roger Davis: Peter Bradford
  10. David Selby: Quentin Collins
  11. Christopher Pennock: Jeb Hawkes
  12. Jim Storm: Gerard Stiles
  13. Robert Rodan: Adam

Alts:
14. Terry Crawford: Beth Chavez
15. Marie Wallace: Eve
16. David Henesy: David Collins

Clean list:

Mitchell Ryan
Katheryn Leigh Scott
Alexandra Isles
Nancy Barrett
Diana Millay
Kate Jackson
Jerry Lacy
Lara Parker
Roger Davis
David Selby
Christopher Pennock
Jim Storm
Robert Rodan

Terry Crawford
Marie Wallace
David Henesy

My entire list from 2020 gets submitted for 2021 completely intact. After a bit of luck with this theme in 2019, I thought a few more would shuffle off this year, but no dice. Most of these people are very old dammit!

Theme: The Mary Tyler Moore Show Universe

Cloris Leachman
Ed Asner
Gavin MacLeod
Betty White
Joyce Bulifant
John Amos
John Gabriel
Larry Wilde
Richard Masur
Ray Buktenica
Michael Delano
Garn Stephens
Robert Walden

Alternates:

Lisa Gerritsen
Julie Kavner

Only one person gave me points this year (thank you, Helen Reddy!), so the rest of them will just have to try harder in 2021:

“Carol Burnett and Friends”

Carol Burnett
Ruth Buzzi
Charo (Maria del Rosario Mercedes Pilar Martinez Molina Baeza)
Barbara Feldon
Janet Jackson
Steve Martin
Liza Minnelli
Rita Moreno
Neil Sedaka
Maggie Smith
Sally Struthers
Lily Tomlin
Ben Vereen

Alternates:
Alan Alda
George Chakiris
Joel Grey

Theme - nutters, grifters, and scoundrels who cloak themselves with religion:

Paula White
Cardinal George Pell
Jim Bakker
Jerry Falwell Jr.
Franklin Graham
James Dobson
Kenneth Copeland
Michele Bachmann
Mike Pence
Mike Pompeo
David Green
Mike Lindell
Kirk Cameron

Alternates:
Joel Osteen
Cardinal Timothy Dolan
Ken Ham

Theme: the 1969 Washington Senators (“a whole new ballgame in 1969”)

The Senators v2.0 (1961-1971) had exactly one winning season, and this was it. These players from that team all seem to still be alive, according to Google.

LF Frank Howard 8-8-36
RF Hank Allen 7-23-40
1B Mike Epstein 4-4-43
3B Ken McMullen 6-1-42
CF Del Unser 12-9-44
2B Bernie Allen 4-16-39
SS Tim Cullen 2-16-42
C Doug Camilli 9-22-36
SP Dick Bosman 2-17-44
SP Joe Coleman 2-3-47
SP Casey Cox 7-3-41
SP Jim Hannan 1-7-41
RP Darold Knowles 12-9-41

Alternate:

SS Toby Harrah 10-26-48

Clean list:

Frank Howard
Hank Allen
Mike Epstein
Ken McMullen
Del Unser
Bernie Allen
Tim Cullen
Dick Bosman
Joe Coleman
Casey Cox
Darold Knowles
Jim Hannan
Doug Camilli

Alternate:

Toby Harrah

Looked at the deaths on my past years lists and a lot of people who were 80 when they left this mortal coil. So I’m going with peeps born in 1940.
Jack Nicklaus
Katharine Ross
Smokey Robinson
Chuck Norris
Nancy Pelosi
James Caan
Al Pacino
Nancy Sinatra
Ringo Starr
Patrick Stewart
James Brolin
Raquel Welch
Sam Waterston

My alts are peeps who will turn 80 in 2021:
Dick Cheney
David Crosby

Appears that I forgot about the Theme last year and not having a new idea for a theme, I’m going with my 2019 theme. Checked and these actors were considerate enough not to take Brooks’example during 2020.

Theme: Shawshank Redemption: “I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy living, or get busy dying.”
Tim Robbins 10/16/58 Andy Dufresne
Morgan Freeman 6/1/37 Red
Bob Gunton 11/15/45 The Warden
William Sadler 4/13/50 Heywood
Clancy Brown 1/5/59 Cpt Byron Hadley
Gil Bellows 6/28/67 Tommy
Mark Rolston 12/7/56 Boggs
Frank Medrano 5/20/58 FatAss
Don McManus 11/8/59 Guard Wiley
David Proval 5/20/42 Snooze
Gary Lee Davis 1/2/46 Rooster
Jeffrey DeMunn 4/25/47 DA who prosecuted Andy
Bill Bolender 11/14/40 Elmo Batch - murdered Andy’s wife & her lover

Alternates:
Paul Kennedy 7/1/62 Food-Way Mgr
Brian Libby 4/20/49 Floyd
Dion Anderson ??? Head Bull Haig

In Memory:
James Whitmore 10/1/21 - 2/6/09 Brooks
James Kisicki 4/14/38 - 11/27/17 Bank Mgr

Clean list:
Tim Robbins
Morgan Freeman
Bob Gunton
William Sadler
Clancy Brown
Gil Bellows
Mark Rolston
Frank Medrano
Don McManus
David Proval
Gary Lee Davis
Jeffrey DeMunn
Bill Bolender

Alternates:
Paul Kennedy
Brian Libby
Dion Anderson

I really hope these people get busy living but for purposes of the Themed Celebrity Death Pool, I wouldn’t mind if they got busy dying. :smiling_imp:

A List About Nothing.

This is a list of people who appeared as themselves (or at least Seinfeldian versions of themselves) on the show about nothing.

Pat Cooper – The great comedian offered to get Jerry into the Friars’ Club.

Jon Voight – The Academy Award-winning actor. Not to be confused with John Voight the periodontist.

Rudy Giuliani – Before he became a Trumpian troll, Giuliani beat Dinkins for the 1993 NYC Mayoral race because he ate right and kept his cholesterol in check.

Keith Hernandez – The original Seinfeld Celebrity pop-in in Season 3, his narcissistic navel-gazing typical of everyone in the Seinfeld universe led to the title of his real-life memoir, “I’m Keith Hernandez”.

Bette Midler – In Seinfeldvania, the Divine Miss M plays catcher for the “Rachelle, Rachelle” softball team and trash talks George. In fact, I could see her doing that in the Real World, too.

George Wendt – While in LA, George Costanza wondered aloud to George Wendt whether “Cheers!” might be a better show if it did not take place in a bar.

Raquel Welch – In the Seinfeld universe, Raquel Welch gets involved in a cat fight! Rowrr!

Keith Morrison – He initially identified Kramer as a person of interest in the Smog Stranglings; eventually he identified the correct men, Tobias Lehigh Nagy, “5’ 6”, bald and reputedly a very generous tipper.”

Kathy Lee Gifford – While visiting the set of Regis and Kathy Lee to promote his coffee table book, Kramer spit-taked all over Kathy Lee. That’s something we’ve all wanted to do.

Bryant Gumbel – Always the nice guy in the real world, in the Seinfeld world, when Jerry showed up on the Today show to promote a benefit to clothe the homeless, Bryant mocked Jerry’s “puffy shirt.”

Candice Bergen – Kremer proved to be the only secretary Murphy Brown found competent.

David Letterman – David could not be bothered to remember Jerry’s name.

Al Roker – Who knew that there were people out there who collect TV Guide? I hope that Al’s recent surgery for cancer does not mean points. Thanks goodness, from all reports, he is doing well.

Marisa Tomei – On Seinfeld, Marisa is attracted to short, chubby, bald men. Ah! Were it only so.

Pat Cooper
Jon Voight
Rudy Giuliani
Keith Hernandez
Bette Midler
George Wendt
Raquel Welch
Keith Morrison
Kathy Lee Gifford
Bryant Gumbel
Candice Bergen
David Letterman
Al Roker

Alternate:

Marisa Tomei

I’m going for a clean slate. My theme is the surviving cast of the 1994 movie Clean Slate.

Dana Carvey
Valeria Golino
James Earl Jones
Kevin Pollak
Michael Gambon
Michael Murphy
Jayne Brook
Vyto Ruginis
Olivia d’Abo
Mark Bringelson
Christopher Meloni
Gailard Sartain
Robert Wisdom

Alts
Bob Odenkirk
Bryan Cranston

Was watching “The Music Man” the other week and found out that Shirley Jones is still alive. Which led to

Theme: Sitcom Moms
Meredith Baxter
Brett Butler
Jane Curtin
Marla Gibbs
Shirley Jones
Julie Kavner
Vicki Lawrence
Judith Light
Lee Meriweather
Phylicia Rashad
Marion Ross
Susan Saint James
Jessica Walter

Alternates:
Joanna Kerns
Patricia Richardson
Katey Segal