A player stands OUTSIDE the 3 point line and throws the basketball down INSIDE the 3 point line. The basket ball bounces up and makes the basket.
Does the player score 3 or 2 points?
Hard to find in NBA rules, but I believe it (Ball) can’t hit anything other than rim/backboard. Anything else is a basket, but not a basket from the point of origin/thrower of origin…and the shooter gets credit, but for 2 points. He has to get the ball clear from hand to the rim/backboard.
Man…hard to find in the rules…maybe someone else is sharper so we don’t have to speculate.
IMHO, It would be 2 points.
I don’t know if it’s in the rulebooks, but I think the shot described in the OP would be worth 3 points unless someone on the offense tipped the ball inside the 3-point area.
The rules for scoring a field goal just say that the ball has to come down through the goal. The rules for a three point field goal say that the shooter must have both feet behind the line before releasing the ball.
However, the official rules of basketball aren’t on the web in their entirety, so I’ve asked a basketball ref friend of mine to check this out.
If the player’s feet are outside the line, it’s a three-pointer, IMO.
What would be more interesting is if the person is in mid-air.
On any three-point shot, the rule of thumb is the position of the shooter’s feet prior to leaving the ground. If you shoot from behind the line and jump forward and land six feet in front of it, it’s still a three pointer.
I wonder when (or if) some long jumper turned basketball player will be able to dunk a 3-pointer. I remember seeing video of Mike Powell (former US Olypmic High Jumper) goofing around on a basketball court a few years ago. He said he’d like to go up against Jordan in a dunk contest. He could also take off from behind the three point line and lay it in.
I have my doubts that even a world class long jumper could make a lay up from NBA 3-point range. I don’t think those guys are high enough off of the ground that far into their jumps. However, they probably can get pretty damn close.
The bigger problem for them would be dribbling. I don’t think they would be able to build up enough speed dribbling and the court is too small to allow for the runup needed for a good long jump.
I never said it would be easy.
Wilt Chamberlain did dunk his free throw attempts until it was ruled illegal.
I think a tall Mike Powell might be able to dunk a three-pointer.
An alley oop is ocnsidered 2-points, but then the shooter is considered the 2nd player.
What about a 3-point shot that falls well short, bounces off someone’s head, and in? I would think that’d be 2 points.
I agree with what Philster said, it can’t touch anything else than the rim/backboard. If it does, that would seem to invalidate the "3"ness of the shot.
Wilt NEVER dunked a free throw in a game. He fooled around with dunking from the free throw line in practice. Word got out to the powers that be that he COULD, and they preemptively changed the rule.
Thanks for dispelling the urban legend about Chamberlain.
As for the OP, I finally found a definitive answer, at least for high school basketball.
The guiding rule is 4-4, art. 3
“A ball which is in flight retains the same location as when it was last in contact with a player or the court.”
So, a shot taken from outside the 3-point line and then bounces inside it and into the goal is worth 2 points.
Also, if the shot hits the ground after the horn indicating the end of the period, it doesn’t count for anything even if it goes in. The shot attempt is over in that case once the ball hits the ground.
how did they change to rule to prevent Wilt from dunking the freethrow?
For starters, you cannot stand behind the semicircle that is behind the free throw line. You also cannot have your foot across the plane of the free throw line.
So, you can’t taking a running start and the position of your feet BEFORE you shoot a free throw is what determines its legality.
For three pointers or out of bounds calls it’s where you last touched the floor that determines the call. It’s different on free throws.
Try this scenario on for size:[ul][li]Player 1 (without the ball) leaps into the air from behind the three-point arc.[/li][li]Player 2, standing within the three-point arc, passes to Player 1.[/li][li]Player 1, still airborne, shoots or tips the ball into the basket.[/ul][/li]
Is it a three-pointer?
Sounds like a 2-pointer to me.
This is the high school rule on it.
“A successful try or tap from the field by a player who is located behind the 19-foot 9-inch line counts three points. Any other goal from the field counts two points for the team into whose basket the ball is thrown.”
Since the player is tapping in the shot that started from within the 2 point range, it’s just two points.
I read the rule to say it’s a 3-point shot, since it would be a “tap from the field by a player who is located behind the 19-foot 9-inch line”. This is based on the assumption that “located behind the 19-foot 9-inch line” is determined by where the player last touched the floor.
Interesting. I was all set to say it’s obviously a 2, but the more I look at it, the more I’ve convinced it’s a 3.
“Player 1, still airborne, shoots or tips the ball into the basket.” If he can catch it and shoot it it seems like it’s clearly a 3, since he took off from behind the line. Where he got the pass from is immaterial, since he gained possession of it.
If he tips it, it’s also a 3. After all, consider an alley-oop that starts from behind the 3-point line. It is considered a 2, because the tipping player was in 2-territory.
Or consider a guard who passes back to a teammate who has just jumped from behind the mid-court line. This will be ruled a backcourt violation regardless of where the receiving players lands, because they took off from behind the line. In the same, Player 1 in this case would be considered to be shooting a 3-pointer.
Not that I have any real expertise, I can’t even dunk on an 8-foot basket anymore
I think it’s a 2 pointer, according to this section of the NBA rule book I dug up.
Rule V, Section I, Part C, Clause 1
(1) The shooter must have at least one foot on the floor outside the three-point field goal line prior to the attempt.
If you didn’t have the above rule in place, you could set up players for 15 foot three pointers by passing the ball to them as they jumped across the line.