4 Days in NYC, Christmas

My family has lost their collective mind and agreed to visit my sister in NYC at Christmas time. We trying to put together a loose itinerary of sorts - a list of what attractions folks will be going to and what day/time they’ll be going. We have a list of Things to Do already, but some of these seem better suited to warmer months. Are there certain things to do (which you would recommend) only at Christmas? And are some on our list which are “out of season”?

Feel free to recommend most anything (except alcohol-related things) - we will be staying in TriBeCa. Our party includes 10 adults, 4 young adults (18-23), and 4 children (<10). Dates are Dec. 26th through 29th, loosely.

I have already combed the following threads for advice:

Thanks in advance!

Oh yeah, the List:

Broadway show (musical)
Rockefeller center
Chinatown
Big Apple circus
Xmas decoration viewing
Toys R Us, Times Square
St. Bartholemew
Hockey?
Empire State Bldg
Statue of Liberty (Staten Island Ferry?)
Museums - history, art, the Met
Zoo
Central Park
FAO Schwartz (huge toy store)
WTC memorial
Intrepid
Harbor sunset cruise?
Village art galleries?
Walk across the Brooklyn Bridge?
The Strand bookstore?
Coney Island?

I briefly skimmed the other threads about NYC. Forgive me if I repeat something already mentioned. I can give provide some info on stuff I like in NY.

For art, the most concentrated neighborhood for art galleries is not Greenwich Village, it’s Chelsea.

Williamsburg in Brooklyn has more up and coming art galleries, and Chelsea has more galleries for more established or mid-career artists. A great internet guide for art galleries and openings is dks.net.thing. The regular gallery hours are in the day, and the openings are usually in the evening except on weekends, they may be in the afternoon.

Williamsburg has a small hipster scene that you may get a kick out of. Cool bars, clubs, cafes, and shops. There is only one small strip of it on Bedford. Then there are other cool places more interspersed.

I think two overlooked and underrated art museums in NY are the Brooklyn Museum of Art that often has better shows (edgier and more interesting contemporary art) than the Metropolitan and MoMA. Also there is PS 1, which was originally a public school (that’s what the PS stands for) that was donated to MoMA. which is in Queens. Most of the time has really great contemporary exhibits where I’ve seen some of the best contemporary work. The space itself is really cool because they preserved the look of the school. Even the bathrooms and staircases are something to look at.

Another underrated museum that I have only visited once or twice but was interesting was the Folk Museum which is next to MoMA. If you are going to see MoMA, you might as well see the Folk Museum as well.

NY also has some great off off broadway shows. The Village Voice has a decent section for theater, and they have a website.

If you’re going to visit the Metropolitan Museum of Art, two of my favorite sections are the Temple of Dendur and the Costume Gallery in the basement (often has great exhibits).

If you go to Chinatown, don’t eat at Joe’s Shanghai, though the food is decent, it’s only average for the area and is overpriced. It’s only a popular restaurant in Chinatown because it’s in a lot of guide books (tourist trap). The best Chinese food I’ve had in Manhattan is at Grand Schezuan which is not even in Chinatown. I think there are two locations, one in midtown Manhattan and the other on St. Marks Place downtown.

Last time I counted there were four Chinatowns in NY. The best known one is the one in Manhattan, but I think the one in Flushing, Queens is more authentic and less touristy. It also has better restaurants. Both have a different feeling and different populations. The Chinese in Manhattan’s Chinatown are more economically disadvantaged, and the ones in Flushing are more middle class. There are also a lot of Taiwainese and Koreans there as well. Main Street is the main drag in Flushing. Look in one direction and there are Chinese and Taiwainese shops and restaurants and the other direction is Korean. The two other Chinatowns are in Brooklyn, btw.

The Chinatown in Manhattan does have an interesting ice cream place called the Chinatown Ice Cream Factory that has interesting flavors such as Lychee, Longan, Green Tea, Red Bean, etc. Don’t get me wrong, some of the restaurants there are very good–ironically, some of my favorite restaurants in Chinatown are not Chinese but Malaysian and Vietnamese. I wish I could remember the name of this really great one.

I think Queens in general is very underrated. Jackson Heights holds the title of the most ethnically diverse neighborhood in the world. The best Indian food (others may disagree) is at the Jackson Diner in Jackson Heights.

There is a curry row (bunch of Indian restaurants) in Manhattan that is popular, but the food is very mediocre but cheap.

There are a lot of great shops on Broadway in Downtown Manhattan. Two fun stores that I think you might like are Pearl River Mart (for Chinese stuff) and Yellow Rat Bastard (that young adults and high schoolers might like).

You might also want to check out Lincoln Center on the Upper West Side, good for opera (expensive of course) and other shows. I’ve never been that keen on Broadway, but some people must like it.

There is also Little Italy which is just north of Chinatown if you are in the area. Though others may disagree, I still think that Lombardi’s has great pizza. There are a ton of brick oven or coal oven pizza places, but Lombardi’s has the best toppings. Also for pastries, I would recommend Ferrara Cafe in Little Italy. Also Veniero’s in the East Village is also well known for good pastries. And if Veniero’s is too crowded, there is DeRoberto’s across the street.

As far as bookstores go, Strand’s is well known and huge, but another noteworthy one in NY is St. Mark’s Bookstore. Smaller but has a great vibe and selection of books. My favorite bookstore in NY.

Also for the season, (if you are into this type of thing) check out the window displays at some of the large department stores like Bergdorf Goodman and Barney’s.

I wish I could say more, but I have to go to sleep.

Oh, I have to add, there is also Katz’s Deli in the Lower East Side where that scene from where Harry Met Sally was filmed, and it is also the best deli in NY. The Lower East Side also has a very active nightlife for young folks. In the day, there are a lot of interesting little boutiques for clothes there (but sort of expensive).

Junior’s Cheesecake on 45th St & Broadway. We had an NYC Dopefest there, and everyone agreed it is fabulous.

Agreed!

Also, don’t bother with Coney Island unless it is something you have always wanted to do. They are going to start dismantling it soon so if it is something you feel like you need to see for your life to be complete you should go, but if it is just something you had thought sounded interesting skip it. It will be cold and windy and a very long train ride to the far reaches of Brooklyn.

Highly recommended: Irving Berlin’s White Christmas

I’ve always found MoMa to be overrated. Every time I go, I expect to be impressed by something, but then I’m not.

I used to think the same of the Met, but my friend dragged me there during my recent trip, and it was awesome. The key was that we both compromised and we briskly got away from all the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian parts (which he sort of likes and I dislike), past the fru fru European things (not my main interest), and saw the exhibits he really wanted to see and I had never seen (arms, armors, musical instruments, Japanese and Chinese art). Other times, when I go with my sister, we pick one or two main exhibitions/special exhibitions, stick to those, bypass the rest, and get out.

My trip was veeery low key. Be sure to do some window shopping in Bryant Park (I wish I had wasted my money there, it was lost afterwards, after all)… I spent a whole afternoon with the above friend walking around Central Park. All the areas. It is certainly very pretty and relaxing, even in the winter. And the walking kept me fairly warm.

Speaking of zoos (since I work there last year :wink: ), the Bronx is like the Met. Try focusing on a couple of exhibitions. The “kiddie” exhibition (petting zoo, small animals, farm animals, prairie dogs) is very nice, but I’m not sure if it will be worth the expense (I entered for free). Central Park is always nice, and easier to see all in one trip. Queens’ zoo (Prospect Park?) is actually a nice walk and stroll, very low key. It is a contrast compared to other more bustling places, but I found it very comforting and easy to follow.

Guggenheim I like depending on the exhibitions.

American Museum of Natural History is my overall favorite, although by now I’ve seen most of what I want to see there. I loooove all the animal halls, and usually skip the “People of X” halls, but the kids may find all of them fascinating. Again, stick with a few rooms and get out. The recently added marine area is my favorite (off the biodiversity hall, also one I like). Previously mentioned friend calls it “the world’s largest collection of stuffed animals”. Yet he plans to intern there.

He also likes Max Brenner’s, for the chocolate (I loved their chocolate too).

For Broadway, I would recommend Slava’s Snowshow at the Helen Hayes.

Linky: http://snowshowonbroadway.com/

Slava is probably the best known and respected clown in Russia, and this show is a premier example of the art. Forget unicycle-and-selzer-bottle clowns you grew up on, this is a whole other thing. It’s non-narrative (no clear story; no dialogue) but a purely visual, emotional, childlike experience. Think Cirque du Soleil without the acrobats and you get close. If it sounds pretentious, it’s not. People of all ages and backgrounds love it, even my jaded, impossible to please, redneck teenage cousins were completely enchanted.

It really is NOT for kids under 6 - it can get LOUD and intense at times, and other times slow and meditative - and being that they ARE kids, the point of reawakening your childhood spirit is pretty much lost on them. But for teenagers and adults, and the more open-minded younguns, it’s a can’t miss.

It is definitely NOT your standard, jazz-hands flashy Broadway musical (it’s not a musical at all) but if you’re willing to expand your horizons a bit I can’t recommend it enough. And, to be honest, most Broadway musicals are utter crap. :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks for all the advice so far! I may put Junior’s on the list, since y’all had such a good experience there.

KG, I think that will be my favorite too (Natural History).

So, walking the bridge is probably out as well?

Since there are children in the group, I recommend http://wondertechlab.sony.com/. It’s free and the kids get to play video game, the adults get to marvel at technology. Even the line to get in is fun. The robot downstairs talks to the crowd.

It’s on Madison Avenue, just a couple of blocks away from a lot of other great attractions.

Rolf’sis a German restaurant in Gramercy Park. It might be a little cramped for a large group, but if you’re in the area definitely stop in to at least look at the decorations. It’s pretty cool.

For the WTC Memorial I think you need to come back in about 20 years.
If you are going to do the Statute of Liberty, I suggest you go to Liberty Island and perhaps Ellis Island (If you know anything about when your ancestors emigrated) and not the Staten Island Ferry. The statute is’nt that impressive till you get up close.

You can walk the Brooklyn Bridge is the weather is good and you are dressed for it.
In Queens, if you decide to make the trip out there, check out the QMA and the http://www.queensmuseum.org/panorama/about.htm panorama of NYC.

Breakfast at Norma’s in the lobby of Le Parker Meridien. Expensive but totally awesome.

Dinner at SarahBeth’s on Central Park South, down the street from the Ritz Carlton.

We will be there again this year, 12/21-12/26. I love Xmas in Manhattan! With two kids (9 & 6), we do the Natural History Museum, a zoo or two, the park, that kind of stuff. I didn’t see any of my old threads (or zev steinhard’s- he is always helpful) but there are a few out there- I will try to find them.

Gotta run, but go to the Metropolitan Museum to see the Neapolitan creche displays. Gorgeous and extremely valuable collection of antique figurines for Christmas.

I only searched for threads over the last year. I would love to hear more about “that kind of stuff”.

The Museum of Natural History has the dino bones and loads of other stuff plus is has the Hayden Planet-arium. Great if the weather is too cold for outside stuff.

http://www.amnh.org/home/?gclid=COmyzqfvpJcCFQkcHgodUUPX-w

I believe the Empire State Building is currently undergoing rennovations and the observation deck is closed.

Seconding this one. Lots of taxidermied animals as well, and I think even a live snakes/lizards exhibit (at least it was there a while ago).

I’ve been meaning to go back–you never see everything you want to in one visit, but you know how it is when you live here.

Here’s what I remember us doing last year, and/or what we are planning this year-

Bronx Zoo- pretty good zoo, and I am spoiled (we live near the San Diego Zoo). Go on a dry day that (hopefully) isn’t too cold.

Central Park Zoo- extremely small but fun for kids- try to catch the sea lion feeding time. Warn your kids, though- Madagascar lied, and so do all the other movies- there are no lions, zebras, giraffes, alligators, etc, at that little zoo! :slight_smile:

Walking through Central Park- I always get lost, but we try to walk to Strawberry Fields, the boat house (even when it’s closed), Wollman Rink for ice skating (very close to Central Park South), lots of little hidden play spaces that are great for “kid breaks,” touristy horse and carriage rides through the park (kids loved this, now we have to do it every damned time), lunch at Tavern on the Green (don’t stand on ceremony- lunch is not dressy and kids are welcome).

The Apple Store is right next to the giant toy store- something for everyone! :wink:

Natural History Museum- great fun, my kids love the giant whale and the prehistoric bones.

The Met and the Guggenheim- depends on the kids, the day and the exhibits. You never quite know what will be out at the Guggenheim, but it’s a fun walk down!

FOOD! I already mentioned breakfast at Norma’s, breakfast at the Bus Stop Cafe on Hudson Street in the Village is also very good (but tiny and no tourists), Sarabeth’s is great for breakfast and dinner. Usually we just “end up somewhere” so I have no idea where we eat!

Empire State Building- fun if the observation deck is open, but expect a hella long wait to get up there. That can be hard on the kids.

Ground Zero/St. Pauls/Trinity/St. Peters- we still visit, even though there will never be a fucking memorial built… check out the firefighters mural on the side of 10 House. St. Peters is where I always go to say a quick prayer for Father Mike.

More later when I’ve had more coffee!

You know what is also worth a mention is the Museum of the Moving Image in Astoria (Queens). Astoria itself is known for it’s restaurants and cafes, and Greek food in particular. If you have anyone in the crowd that is itching to see the so-called “real New York” then this is a good place to send them. Ditto for the already mentioned Jackson Heights and Flushing.

If you’re looking for history-stuff then the Tenement Museum one idea, and Ellis Island is, IMHO, a must-see.

If anyone in the group likes to sew then drop them off in the fashion district for a few hours of fabric shopping. I think this is the only part of NY that my mom actually liked.