If Trump runs a independent campaign, is there any chance Bernie Sanders will also - leaving us with a Democrat, Republican, Trump, Sanders race?
I’m a newbie to this, so I hope I am in the right forum?
For Bernie to make any difference he’s going to need a lot more money.
A Trump-Sanders ticket might be interesting.
I seriously doubt whether Sanders will go the third party route. Has he ever made those sorts of noises?
He’s an independent, that’s how he got into congress.
He’s also not an idiot. He’s running because there are things that he wants to happen, and he knows that going third party won’t make them happen.
He has specifically ruled out a third party candidacy because he wants no part in helping to elect a republican.
Trump ruled out a third party run but changed his mind. However, Trump is saying so as a threat to be a spoiler. It would take one hell of a change in the Democratic picture before Sanders would want to spoil a Democratic candidate. I can’t think of anything short of one of the current GOP candidates getting the Democratic nomination.
Yeah, very little chance of that happening. Unless, and it’s a big unless, he only narrowly loses to Clinton, Trump enters the race as a third party candidate, and Sanders sees polls showing that he could win a 4-way.
The real issue, as always, is whether a candidate will be a spoiler or be able to win in their own right. Sanders won’t be a Nader. But he wouldn’t mind being a Jessie Ventura if that’s at all possible.
Actually Trump is saying so because threatening to do so continues to focus attention on Trump. but I agree with your main point. Trump doesn’t care nearly as much about making sure a Conservative gets into the whitehouse as Sanders cares about getting a Liberal in.
Sure. And his spoiler threat is an idle one too. He has no intention of spending tons of his own money on this election. He’ll only run 3rd party if someone else is paying the bill. Unless the GOP nomination is a real squeaker with someone else edging Trump out he’s not going to get the money or consider running a 3rd party campaign. This is all a game to him, he’d never accept a VP spot. He’s barely a Republican, I’m kind of surprised he’s running against the likely Democratic nominee, and he may even be doing this to help her out.
Sanders specifically has ruled it out, saying that he would never do anything that might help elect a Republican.
Trump is basically the physical embodiment of everything Sanders is running against - a bonafide member of the ‘Billionaire Class’. In the crazy world where Trump somehow offers Sanders a place on his ‘independent’ presidential ticket, I would enjoy watching the speech in which Sanders tells him where he can shove it.
Sure, but what’s even better would be the speech where Sanders accepts. Can you imagine what kind of upside-down wrong-is-right cart-pulling-the-horse sky-is-green-grass-is-blue type world that would have to be?
This is even the election year yet and look at all the fun. Ok, maybe it will all die down quickly after the first primary, but I’d love to see the chaos continue all the way through.
It has already been pointed out Sanders will not run third party because he wants no part of helping a Republican get elected. Bernie is smart enough to realize a four way race has an even greater chance of ending up in the House of Reps. That would end up with a Republican being elected.
So, no, not gonna happen.
Even if the polls looked something like this?
Sanders 34%
Bush 24%
Clinton 23%
Trump 19%
Granted, that’s an extremely unlikely possibility, but if Sanders was looking at poll numbers like that I’d have to think he’d be tempted. And if Sanders did lead by 10 in a 4-way he’d win the electoral college because you only have to win a plurality to get all the electoral votes.
There will not be a 4 way. There will not be a 3 way. There will be no brokered conventions. The election will not go to the House. Every year the same speculations, every year they don’t come true.
Trump will not waste his own money on a third party run. Sanders will not run and deny the White House to Hillary. None of these will happen. It’s more likely that Hillary will dance with Bigfoot at the inaugural ball.
Very unlikely but not that unlikely. Trump is a very real possibility and it’s not like 3-way races are unheard of. We had them in 1980, 1992, and 1996, and to a lesser extent, but still enough to swing the election maybe, 2000.
Given his talent for getting free media, a fairly small investment by his standards will go a long way. Given that he wouldn’t be ‘in it to win it,’ as they say, he can easily afford to blow the $100 million on an independent candidacy that would enable him to make plenty of noise right into November 2016.
ETA: I would bet against his doing so, if I had to pick one side of such a bet. But it wouldn’t surprise me if he ran.
I’m not seeing the motive for Trump to run a 3rd party effort. He can’t win, he knows that. If he did, he’d guarantee a Hillary victory, he knows that. Not to mention it would cost him a ton of money. Guys like Trump don’t throw good money after bad- if his bid for the nomination comes up short, which it will, it’s time to cut your losses.
Trump isn’t a Republican. He has a long record of supporting Democrats and liberal causes, as well as Republicans and Republican causes. He’s talking like a Republican because he’s in the Republican field.
Trump would run as an independent because I don’t think he cares who wins the next election if it’s not him. He does believe in payback though, and if the GOP establishment brings him down, he’ll bring them down.