No, they never even said they knew each other. You are again assuming they are colleagues. This festival has people in different locations different days. For all we know he was in the audience watching and approached them afterwards and said wanna come to my hotel room?
If we are assuming they knew each other in one way or another then we could make lots of other assumptions that I don’t feel comfortable making.
…no need to get personal. If you want to get personal there is a whole forum for doing that, take it there. You claimed the public would not allow Louis CK to speak honestly. But you concede Louis CK spoke honestly. So were you wrong before?
I have never removed my clothing in front of someone who I wasn’t absolutely sure wanted me to do so. And nobody’s ever removed their clothing in front of me without being absolutely sure I wanted them to do so.
And when such removals did occur, a fine time was had by all. If the wishes of any of the parties were in any doubt, the clothes stayed on.
It’s really not that difficult, if you start out with the premise that sex partners are individual human beings whose feelings are important, rather than frustrating puzzles that have to be solved to unlock a sex achievement.
How were you absolutely sure, if there was no verbal acknowledgment? (this questions is very important because the answer will be a subjective answer 100% of the time)
…my apologies. You outright intended to infer my posts weren’t intelligent. Thanks for clearing that up.
This requires a yes or a no answer. "When you said “the public would not allow him to explain it honestly” did you actually mean “the public did allow him to explain it honestly”?
What was omitted and how was what was omitted relevant? How has the public not allowed Louis CK to explain things honestly?
I know that they are colleagues because they are all comedians who were all there for a comedy festival. And they all knew that they were all comedians, and the two women wanted to hang out with Louis CK because he was a comedian they admired. “Colleagues” doesn’t have to mean people who know each other and work together; it can just mean people in the same profession.
I can’t really explain it to you; it’s a grown-up thing.
One clue, though, is that the issue of clothes removal never just suddenly manifested itself in the midst of far more casual activities like sitting down to have a drink with one’s coat and hat still on.
(Technically, of course, that could be an appropriate situation for a discussion of outerwear removal with no sexual implications whatever. But let’s not go there, it looks like you’ve got a big enough job just trying to comprehend the basics.)
One simple answer is networking/auditioning. Louis CK is one of the biggest names in comedy today. If you go back to his room and shoot the shit with him and make him snort milk out his nose, next time he’s casting for a small part in Louie he might think of you, give you a call, see if you’re interested. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the world of comedy can step in here; my vague understanding is that this is how it often works.
If they are all in the same profession and all at the same out of town location for a gig? Why on earth wouldn’t they?
When I go to academic conferences I go for drinks in the hotel rooms of people I’ve never met all. the. time. No masturbation or propositions ever form part of these get-togethers, nor did they even when I was younger.
Again, your remarks are shuttering back and forth between naive-teenager (“how do you know when it’s okay to take your clothes off?”) and Edwardian-prude (“why would ladies even enter a stranger’s hotel room except for immoral purposes?”) modes so fast it’s giving me whiplash.
But ok, lets say that is the case. Then as I mentioned both sides omitted things. A very important part was omitted. Why would they have omitted that? That would be a very convincing piece to say. instead they said “He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial”
I could potentially have been wrong, but as it happens in all those years I never have been.
In fact, there’s a remarkably high correlation overall between consistently espousing strong principles of respect and consent in sexual behavior on the one hand, and never getting accused of sexual assault or misconduct on the other. Must just be one of those weird coincidences.
Both of those are great questions. No one, Male, female or other. Should go to a private place with someone they don’t know. Safety rule #1
If someone doesn’t say “it’s ok to take off your clothes” then you are ALWAYS making an assumption and that assumption ALWAYS has the chance of being wrong.