I am very curious (and ignorant) of what this means. The story says that defintely 50 (it may be as high as 100?) Trump electors to be ineligble to hold the position as electors of the College. In the linked article are two different links to to further info, including the actual findings of the bipartisan legal findings of the legal team re: Constitutional requirements that checked the electors. Seems really fishy to me, but my ignorance leads me to post this inquiry.
What I am curious about is if this holds water, or if its a really, really long shot at preventing Trump from being inaugurated on the prescribed date, etc. How could/would this hold up the inauguration or possibly change the results of who actually takes the office of Presidency? Do those who were illegally appointed as electors simply have their votes negated in toto?
I am surprised that,so far as I can tell by watching various news/media reports that none of the media outlets I have seen have focussed on this report, and if it really means anything in the process of election results. Is it BS or a real threat to Trump to taking the oath of office. Is it a non-sequitor at this point overall?
Short summary - it has been shown that at least 50 (maybe up to 100?) Trump electors were Constitutionally unqualified to be electors in this election by holding dual offices and/or not living in the district they represented.
Being that it was agreed upon by both R’s and D’s, it seems to be somewhat important and relevant, but my ignorance stumps me. I think it means it goes to Congress to choose the outcome, but am not sure by any means. I’d love factual/informed thoughts on this seemingly factual finding.
Thanks and appreciation for any thoughts/insights into what this means.
Mods: if this is already mentioned in another thread here, plz close this and redirect me to where it it is being talked about. Thx.
Anyways, a quick look seems to show that North Carolina’s rule on dual office for electors is:
NC 163-209
NC 163-209.2
The alternet article says they think 23 Trump voting states violated the 12th amendment by not providing 2 distinct lists for President and Vice-president. Yeah, ok.
Even if it was true, so what? The election goes to the house and they promptly elect Trump. Given how completely the republicans have abandoned their principles to kiss The Donald’s ass, is there any other possible outcome?
There are two issues here–the state side, and the federal side. I am not at all certain that problems on the state side of things, such as not having all Congressional districts represented, actually invalidate the electors in their federal capacity.
For the dual office holders, it looks like NC at least prioritizes the elector office over state office. So the electors there would still be perfectly legitimate electors. What happens after that with their state office is a purely internal state matter.
“Bipartisan”? What makes it “bipartisan”? Did it include Democrat and Green party members? This alleged bipartisan group is now urging that the election not be certified. Not even Hillary is asking for that.
Do you think they’re petitioning Republicans or Democrats to object to the vote certification? If there are objections tomorrow, do you think they’re likely to come from D’s or R’s? Or is it too big of a mystery for you?
I think they’re pissing into the wind and there will be no objections, at least not due to anything related to this particular challenge. If this is a “Dem plan”, then various white supremacist plots to kill black people are “Republican plans”.
So you took it upon yourself to correct the situation.
I could just as easily be a GOP effort. There are Republicans who don’t like Trump.
At any rate, this is not connected to either party in any official manner.
You’d know that if you had read your own link.
Well, various state constitutions have bars on dual office. I cited North Carolina’s above.
Eta: I never saw anything about electors having to reside in the district they represent. ISTM, in most states that would be a party matter not state/fed law.
