53 bicycles: A lateral thinking puzzle

O.K., now I’m really confused. Here is my summary that you said was spot on: German adults who were trying to hurt other people did a thing that was later outlawed because it resulted in human deaths. Most reasonable people would consider the thing they did to be stupid. The deaths occurred in multiple different ways. They had something to do with suicide, but the people doing the stupid things were not trying or intending to commit suicide. The outlawed activity was kind of in the area of a challenge, dare or bet.

These German adults were trying to hurt other people. Do you not consider these other people to be victims?

Were the German adults just trying to hurt some other people generally, rather than specific individuals? (For instance, they were working on building a bomb, or making ricin or something equally dangerous, but hadn’t picked specific targets.)

Were the people who died indirectly as a result of the German adults’ activity selected by the German adults?

Were the people who died indirectly as a result of the German adults’ activity self-selected - i.e. they chose to do something because of the German adults’ activity that lead to their deaths?

Correct. At least not how I think of the word victim.

I think I answered correctly and accurately.

I am loving this one, by the way. It’s just the right amount of mystery. You are getting more and more info, but the solution is just out of reach enough to make it pull you along. I’m very pleased this time. :smiley:

Well I’m glad someone is enjoying this. :wink:

Are we trying to identify one thing? Or two?

There’s the thing that the German adults who were trying to hurt individual people were doing, and there’s the thing that the people who died were doing. Are these two separate things?

Was the thing that the German adults who were trying to hurt people were doing outlawed?

Was the thing that the people who died were doing outlawed?

They are not two separate things. This whole thing makes one “thing” or “activity” that the German government outlawed. As is now pretty clear, the whole situation is pretty strange.

Figure out what people were doing, including the strangeness of the situation, that the German government had to outlaw.

Is the one “thing” that is being outlawed done by the people who are trying to hurt another person?

Is the one “thing” done by the people who die?

It’s both. Combined into one big “thing”, so to speak.

Can the thing be done either indoors or outdoors?

Does the thing require a certain amount of physical strength?

Does the thing require a certain amount of physical coordination?

Does the thing involve using primarily the arms?

Does the thing involve using primarily the legs?

Does the thing involve using primarily the brain?

Does the thing involve using the entire body?

It’s not the William Tell shooting the apple thing is it?

By thing, you mean the thing they banned.

Can the thing (yes, the thing they banned) be done entirely naked and without involving any additional object?

Is the thing done with the hands/fingers?

Does the thing involve body modification (tattooing, piercing, scarification, etc.)?

KK

Does doing the thing require clothing?

Does doing the thing involve an additional object?

Does the thing involve being blindfolded/unable to see?

Does the thing involve searching for something? (scavenger hunt, geocaching, treasure hunt, etc.)

Does the thing involve a game of chance?

Does the thing involve sexual activity?

kk

Finally, a yes I can work with!

Does the thing involve lottery tickets?

Does the thing involve dice?

Does the thing involve card games?

Does the thing involve a roulette wheel?

Does the thing involve any type of game?

*Not a game in the way I think of it. For example a coin flip is hardly a game, but it is kind of like one. No, coin flips are not involved in this.

Is the object involved in the activity used to determine the chance? That is, do you need to do something with the object (spin it, throw it, read it in some way) in order to find out whether the answer is one thing or another (or a certain number is picked, etc.)

Does this involve a Magic 8 Ball?

Not a magic 8 ball.

So the action involves doing something with an object to get some kind of random chance answer?

Can the action itself indirectly result in a person dying?

Can knowing the random chance answer indirectly result in a person dying?

Does the action involve a mind-altering substance?

KK

Would any of the people who died not have died if the random chance answer had been different?

Is the object involved in obtaining the random chance answer typically used for a different purpose?

Is the object involved something that you can hold in your hand?

Is the object involved or has the object involved ever been an animal or part of an animal?

Is the object involved or has the object involved ever been a plant or a part of a plant?

Does the object involved require electricity?