53 bicycles: A lateral thinking puzzle

Biotop has a much more charitable view of human nature than I do.

So the police said that the victim was sick, and needed medical attention, so the kidnapper brought the victim to a hospital, or the like.

If that’s not it exactly, then it’s close enough that we can probably handle a little overlap, so I’ll start mine.

I’m thinking of a set of stories that have something in common. Off the top of my head, the stories include The Iliad, Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring, Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files series, and the movie Avengers: Infinity War, but I’m sure there are plenty of other examples. Now, I’m sure those stories actually have a lot in common, but the particular commonality I’m thinking of is not only quite rare in fiction, but quite common in real life. For instance, it occurs in at least two recent news stories, as well as in a number of situations that I’ve been a part of.

Yes, they said that the kidnapped boy needed a certain uncommon prescription medicine. The kidnapper went to the drug store to get it and they arrested him.

Side note: In the real life situation, the kidnapper escaped even though the pharmacist called the police. He was caught later using ordinary methods.

:slight_smile:

Is it:

grammatical?

spelling?

something that occurs in the plot?

Clarify these questions, please.

No.

Something that happens:

with the spelling of their titles?

spelling of something in the books themselves?

unique occurrences of letters in certain sequence?

Does it have something to do with the names of the characters? In real life people have the same names, but in fiction that just causes confusion for the reader/moviegoer.

…When I saw Biotop’s name on the “last post”, I was thinking “Dangit, I’ll bet he just solved it”.

And he just solved it.

These books have multiple characters with the same name, just like real life?

In retrospect I should have simply asked if Twin Peaks was an example. That would have allowed the puzzle to remain for others to guess if I was right.

Another example from fiction vs real life is people talking over each other. Conversation is rarely as simple as one person says something, and then the other. But that is usually how it is presented in fiction.

I have one I may post soon if I can get my act together.

**This is a true story, not a lie:

It happened in the 1930’s. With the backing of one of the world’s largest oil companies, trusted experts Otto and Ernest knowingly deceived the public in a report they issued. At first they got away with their deception. But then their lie was discovered. A lawsuit was sure to follow. Putting that kind of misinformation out to the public was a serious crime.

Except the case could not be prosecuted because the lie was was not a lie. Experts Otto and Ernest turned out to be wrong. Their intentional lie was actually the truth. And it was one of the world’s very smallest businesses that proved it so. What was their lie?**

I really do want to know the answer to Chronos’ puzzle. Like, specifically.

Was their lie about the location of oil?

Was their lie about ownership of land?

Was their lie about the amount of oil?

Was their lie about oil in any way?

Unfortunately, I wouldn’t have been able to answer the Twin Peaks question, because I’m not familiar enough with the show. But for the ones I list: The Iliad has a pair of Ajaxes, The Fellowship of the Ring has Toms Bombadil, Maggot, and Cotton, Infinity War has Peters Quill and Parker, and The Dresden Files has both a knight and a Volkswagen mechanic named Michael. Meanwhile, in the news, we have John replacing John in the Senate, and a couple of lawyers named Michael in a high-profile legal battle.

Moving on:
Was the “lie” about oil?
Was the “lie” about sources of oil?
Was the “lie” about uses of oil?
Was the “lie” about unintended effects of oil?
Was the “lie” about some product in competition with oil?
Did Otto and Ernest believe the “lie” to be a lie?

EDIT: Looks like Mahaloth ninjaed me with a few of these.

reply to Mahaloth

Was their lie about the location of oil? No

Was their lie about ownership of land? No

Was their lie about the amount of oil? No

Was their lie about oil in any way? No

In Twin Peaks there are two high school kids, Bobby and Mike. They are friends. At the same time there is evil Bob and a one-armed man named Mike who are linked. Yet there is no connection between the two Bob/Mike pairs. They just have the same names. Well, with David Lynch there possibly is more to it then that, but if so it is never explained.

answer to Chronos

Moving on:
Was the “lie” about oil? No
Was the “lie” about sources of oil? No
Was the “lie” about uses of oil? No
Was the “lie” about unintended effects of oil? No
Was the “lie” about some product in competition with oil? No
Did Otto and Ernest believe the “lie” to be a lie? Yes

Was the lie about land?

Was the lie about profits?

Was the lie about safety?

Was the lie about jobs?

Is the lie about American Indian heritage?

answer to Mahaloth

Was the lie about land? Yes

Was the lie about profits? No

Was the lie about safety? No

Was the lie about jobs? No

No