Ending the jet fuel argument once and for all, from a blacksmith …
While I agree with his point, his manner does nothing to convince. He’s changing too many variables, the largest of which is he heated the steel 300 degrees hotter than burning jet fuel. That’s almost criminally stupid in a youtube video.
And the pinhead youtube comments make my head hurt!
Yeah, the video basically proves nothing, at least nothing that would convince a “truther.”
As I was following the White Rabbit, I came across this site, which claims that one of the main causes for the collapse was due to differential heating of the support beams, which caused not only stress in the structural members, but also caused the load to be distributed unevenly. It’s an effect I hadn’t heard of before, and makes some amount of sense.
Youtube can’t melt idiots.
I play Scrabble with a few older gentleman of a Friday evening and one week one of them came in from a seminar on the truth behind 9/11. He stated that it was clear that someone besides the hijackers did it, it just wasn’t clear who would have been able to do it. I didn’t even know where to begin so I nodded noncommitally and went back to Scrabbling.
That’s essentially the evaluation of the husband of one of my co-workers at the time; he’s a structural engineer. As we all sat paralyzed in front of the TV in the conference room, she came in to tell us that he predicted the second tower’s collapse. His timing estimate for the collapse turned out to be correct within 15 minutes.
Well obviously, that means he was in on it. He probably planted the thermite strap charges.
From what I’ve heard if the water lines for the sprinklers had not been severed then the towers might have held.
Where’d the conspiracy theorists get 1500F from? The adiabatic flame temp for kerosene-in-air is about 2100C, which is more like 3800F. That assumes a perfectly blended stoichiometric mixture, but even allowing for crappy mixing and lean/rich mixtures, it seems reasonable to expect a temperature quite a bit greater than 1500F.
This has been posted many times before, but just as a reminder, the towers had special building code exemption to use spray-on fire retardant instead of the usual kind. The spray-on stuff was easier to use on the project, but never intended to adhere if the structure flexed from a horizontal impact. A lot of it probably flaked off just as the fires started.
That just shows how deep the conspiracy goes. New York building inspectors in the early seventies were obviously in on the early planning stages for 9/11.
Everywhere I see this posted truths come out with all kinds of special pleading for why this isn’t accurate.
OK, except here.
Or you could just ask one of the co-designers of the buildings: Leslie Robertson. He quickly figured out that the jet fuel in a then-modern plane would be enough. Article published in 11/2001.
Just Google around on that name.
To believe anything other than obvious requires believing that there were tens of thousands of people in on the attack, working for decades to achieve it and continuing to magically keep it a secret from then until now.
Just remember that they watched some youtube videos, viewed some Facebook image memes, and heard some 3rd-hand out-of-context quotes from ‘experts’ so therefore they know much more than the world’s engineering and architectural community.
One of the 9/11 debunking shows (on Sci-Channel or one of those) had a team of engineers putting various CTs to the test. In one of them they filled a small depression with jet fuel, put a naked structural beam over it and lit the fire. The beam basically filed in under 5 minutes. It was a pretty convincing demonstration of how the steel loses structural stability at relatively low temperatures…the same temperatures of burning jet fuel (and not counting all the other combustibles in the buildings hit by a large air craft at high speed and full of jet fuel). The CTers were completely unconvinced and pulled all sorts of ridiculous shit out of their asses and were waving their hands to beat the band. If THAT didn’t at least make them pause for breath and think, nothing would.