I think Handy has been downloading too many still shots for the internet and assumes that you could fake it as easily in live action.
I believe that anyone can give any rating they like to their movie except for G, PG, PG-13, R, and maybe NC-17. The MPAA owns the intellectual rights (copyright? trademark? service mark? I dunno) to those, and possibly to NR as well (NR meaning the movie has not been rated).
I don’t know who “owns” the TV ratings, if anyone. It may be a voluntary best-judgement sort of affair and not an official rating.
Any other rating is fair game. You can say your movie is rated SPQR for all MPAA cares, as long as you don’t claim they gave it that rating.
So, I suspect those categories for XX and XXX in the manual you’re talking about are just convenient guidelines which are internal to your company, so that you don’t have to say “Well, it shows this and that but not the other thing” for every movie. You can just say “xx” and all the people that work there know at least vaguely where it falls on the raunch scale.
JimB, you mean Hollywood doesn’t know how to fake things? Don’t you think after, say, doing a cum shot take for the 15th time to get it right that the star is a bit exhausted?
If you read Linda Lovelace’s books, Out of Bondage is the best, she explains things about the x biz way back in the 70’s when they didn’t fake shots so much. She said you might see 5 guys but they have a couple dozen extra guys around & they would show their penises when one of the 5 guys couldn’t do it.
Of course they are faked these days. A tube runs under the pee pee & a bulb squeezed ejects the fake cum. They can also run the tube under a CLEAR condom, out the tip.
Guys those aren’t real ships in Star Trek either.
Handy, stop and think about this.
I’m producing a sci-fi movie. I want a starship. What are the odds I’m going to get a real one? So of course I use special effects.
Now I’m producing a porno movie. Why would I pay twenty five cents for a piece of tube and some powdered sugar? It’s not like orgasms aren’t free for the asking.
Trust me on this, Handy, the sex in porno movies is real and so are the orgasms (the male ones anyway).
Here is a link to the Motion Picture Association’s ratings page. http://www.mpaa.org/movieratings/
It doesn’t mention an X or XXX rating, but a search of the database reveals an X rating for some movies like The Devil in Miss Jones.
I’m going to have to concur that the come shots are real. Looking at the production values of all the porn I’ve seen, they could not possibly “pull off” (so to speak) a special effect that looks that realistic.
handy:
You are wrong.
Sometimes the orgasm that winds up on film did not actually happen in sequence to whatever act is being completed, but the orgasm is NOT some weird special effects.
My qualifications: Wrote for some porm mags several years back
Yer pal,
Satan
So is the SDMB in consensus yet? Is the cum fake or real? Sounds like the majority says real (sorry handy). But I’ve heard you can alter the flavor of your cum based on what you eat, so if you eat a lot of fruit, you can make it TASTE like sugar water.
Satan, I have got to ask what is a “porm” magazine? Is that more or less dirty than a porn magazine?
Just curious.
Jeffery
Well I vote real ( sorry handy )
“Ward, You’re upsetting the beaver.”
Barbara Billingsley
Im going for fake & my qualifications for that is actually an xxx video that shows it being faked. It was some XXX Bloopers video.
I remember years ago, while reading a porn mag (hey, I only masturbated to the articles…), there was an ad in the back for a tape of porn bloopers. It said something about a midget having a “cornstarch” orgasm, and I wondered long minutes what on earth that could be. Now I wonder if that was the same video you saw handy, and the cornstarch was an ingredient in the fake splooge.
By the way handy, I guess I now finally know how you got your name!
I’m sure in some cases it’s fake, but I betcha they’re the exception and ot the rule.
So you have one porn bloopers tape and from that you are prepared to say that genuine on-screen moneyshots are all but extinct since the 70’s?
Why fake it that often? The actors are more than willing to donate the real thing.
I’m not perky.
Alpha, for one, AIDs, for two, after twenty takes on the same scene, the guy’s shooting dust balls.
But I tell you what cum shots are REAL. Those that get on the XXX video carts in the store.
You can see the dirt on them, its quite obvious. I guess guys jerking off to them don’t wash their hands before taking the video out. If you don’t believe me, go to the store and look at them.
Used to laugh with the video store clerk about this asking him if they disinfect the cassettes after someone brings them back.
Handy, I’m guessing what you saw was outtakes from porno subgenre know as “freaks of nature”. Essentially these are specialty videos that use prosthetics to simulate body parts like enormous breasts, quadruple breasts, fifteen inch penises, double penises, etc. This is one of the rare cases in porno where special effects is used because of the difficulty in finding genuine “freaks”. But in 99.9% of the porno videos made, the equipment used is all natural for simple economic reasons; it’s cheaper to use a real penis than it is to use a fake one. As for the difficulty in acheiving twenty orgasms, that’s probably true but so what? They’re not filming Citizen Kane here; the first ejaculation usually does the job just fine and there’s no need for a “retake”.
handy:
Hellooooo?!?
I WORKED for a porn (not porm, thanks, typo cops! 
) magazine. I WENT to a porno viceo shoot. I INTERVIEWED porno stars and starlets.
Trust me - Not fake.
I don’t doubt that somewhere, maybe someone came up with an idea to create a jizz-mess, and relied on a machine, but that would be a special deal, not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.
Yer pal,
Satan
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I’d imagine that the chance of contracting HIV from a whacking off on your face is minute. Plus, porn stars get tested constantly.
Plus, I’d imagine if anything that the box cover would have the artifical stuff. Some box covers I’ve seen look like the “Got Milk?” ads. Maybe fake cum still-photographs better than the real stuff.
OK, who wants to email Vivid Video and ask them what percentage of their cumshots are real?
I’m not perky.
“I WORKED for a porn (not porm, thanks, typo cops! ) magazine. I WENT to a porno viceo shoot. I INTERVIEWED porno stars and starlets”
Why didn’t you participate?
I never said all of them were faked. Also, there really was a xxx bloopers video. Might still be out.
Im a mural artist & One time I got offered a job to do a few huge xxx murals for a porno theatre in SD, Calif. I said no. I don’t want anything to do with those people in any way.
Also, Rev, I got my handle ‘handy’ cause it’s the last thing a guy sees before I give him a knuckle sandwich.
Isn’t sperm just mostly protein ( I mean of course besides the little wigglies in there.)
“Ward, You’re upsetting the beaver.”
Barbara Billingsley