A big eye roll for the New York Times

Because, of course, no one who supports Republican candidates is ever insulting, partisan, libelous, or simply assholes.

Seriously, I don’t get this. Why is it when liberals act like jerks, we always get told we’re alienating swing voters and helping Republicans get elected. But when Republicans act like jerks… they get control of all three branches of government. Are they just better at it, or what?

FinnAgain, since you have been a card carrying member of the “anybody but Bush” faction since waaaaay before the Democrats even nominated Kerry, your admonishments in this thread about “civic responsibility” and “Choosing the best person for the job” etc… are really, really funny. Tell me, are you too stupid to realize how much of a hypocrite you are, do you consider being a hypocrite acceptable, as long as it’s in defense of a position you agree with, or is it that you just don’t care?

First off, did you even bother looking at the location?

Honestly, man, I can just see you, sitting at the computer, arms flailing, foaming at the mouth because someone has the temerity to see things in a different way to you. To you, it seems, things are black and white. Bush bad, Democrat candidate good. To someone on the fence, someone who does not agree that one candidate is necessarily “bad for the country” and the other isn’t, all that’s become clear is that one side has a great flaming asshole as a supporter and the other doesn’t.

There’s no arguing that your term is correct, too. Lanham’s handlist lists like three others and essentially begs people to stop using some to simplify things.

Snippy - in the Pit?

I have to lie down with a cool cloth over my eyes. :smiley:

No need to apologize. It’s just a (really old) joke. And I hope nobody takes what is said in the Pit all that seriously.

Unless it is something nice like what Clothahump said, for which I thank him.

Regards,
Shodan

Do tell Davey. Why exactly is opposing Bush funny? I’m real interested here.

Actually Davey, it seems you’re the one being painfully stupid. How, exactly, is it hypocritical to not support Bush? Mmm? Take your time.

Yes, you’re a British petulant brat instead of an American petulant brat. Congrats.

Yeah, I know, you’re pretty stupid. I’d feel sorry for you, except I find you aestheticaly unpleasant, like dogshit on clean shoes.

In case thinking hurts you too, I have no problem with people supporting their ideals. In fact, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying people should do. What I do have a problem with is people opposing their own ideals in order to vote for someone they don’t support in order to ‘stick it to’ someone not even running for government. It’s an abrogation of civic responsibility and reminiscent of high school social politics.

Hey, moron? I said specifically that I’m an independent. I didn’t vote for Kerry. I don’t think the Dems have a lock on the truth any more than the Repubs. Fool.

Well, they might also be painfully stupid like you, and not even realize that I don’t and didn’t support Kerry. Little hole in your strawman logic there, schmuck. Moreover, if someone can’t be bothered to actually determine which candidate they prefer, and instead vote based on how many “flaming assholes” support one party or another they’re, wait for it… wait for it… a fool, a petulant child, and yes, discarding their civic responsibility.

You’re supposed to pick the best candidate, not run a popularity contest amongst the supporters.

Getting back OT, I can find fault with Bush even durring a natural disaster. It’s not that I want to be petty, he’s just that crap a president.

In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.

What a douche.

Hold on.

In what way would my hypothetical vote for a candidate based on how many ‘flaming assholes’ support the party be any more wasted than yours for an independent candidate was in the 2004 Presidential Election?

In what way would supporting your ideals with a vote be less of a waste than opposing your ideals with a vote? I dunno…

Wow, you are stupid beyond belief. It has nothing to do with Bush, it has to do with the fact that YOU made up your mind to vote for anybody but Bush before you even knew who would be opposing him, and in this thread you are railing against someone making a knee jerk decision on weather or not to vote for someone because you are an asshole. Pot, kettle, black.

Nope Davey, that’d be you.

It doesn’t have to do with Bush, it just has to do with Bush. Does this shit even make sense to you while you’re typing it? See, this is neutron density dumb Davey, I’d expect better of you.

And, simply for the record, once I determined that Bush was unable to do the job of president, the answer of ‘anybody but Bush’ becomes rather clear, does it not? But then again, something tells me that you know that’s just a phrase, and you know I wouldn’t have voted for a wino off the street, but any qualified political candidate, since Bush was not qualified.

It’s like having to go in for surgery and being told that the surgeon they’ve selected for you has parkinsons. “Give me any surgeon but that one.”

It’s hard to parse that Davey. Are you saying I’m an asshole for railing at people for voting for candidates they oppose simply because people not even running for office said some mean stuff? If so, ah well. Sorry you consider civic virtue to be the quality of an asshole.

If, on the other hand, you’re saying that I’m railing against people voting for candidates based on the perceived ‘asshole quotient’ of those not running for office, then yes, I will rail against those petulant spoiled brats. Sorry.

Again Davey, since you seem to be having a brainless day: I opposed, and still oppose Bush because he’s incompetent. Others voted, not based on the candidates at all, but what talking heads and anonymous people on the internet said. If you can’t tell the difference between voting based on the candidate and voting based on things other than the candidate, I can’t help you.

Well when conservatives act like jerks they are jerks just the same. It runs the same way.
When the conservatives where concerned about Clinton getting a BJ I was pissed off and expressed it with my votes, if the liberals use this tragedy as a launching pad for attacks against Bush, I will express it with my vote again.

Bush is an asshole, just as much as Clinton was, we have not had a non asshole president since before I was born. That is the problem both the Left and the Right being more concerned with a fucking party ideals rather then the normal persons ideals.

And since no matter the election it will be asshole -vs- asshole on the major party ticket, it ensures only an asshole will get elected, I will use my vote to punish those who made a bigger ass out of themselves. Since no one I would want to be President will ever get there just because of this blind to everything but there party bullshit.

How old are you? Jimmy Carter was no asshole. Ford was OK too. At least he didn’t do any damage.

In my mid-30’s, and no they where assholes, if they proclaimed to be a Democrat or a Republican, they where assholes. Until someone can say they are neither party, but just American they will be assholes. By the very nature of the party system, it pits American against American, some assholes do less damage then other assholes but that doesn’t change them into something they are not.

You don’t think Jimmy Carter did things he didn’t want to do “for his party”? I would think your wrong. Not one Democrat President, not one Republican President has stood up and said “My party is wrong, I think I should do this for the people and forget my party” (That I can recall anyway)

No I have no “cite” for Jimmy Carter doing something he thought was wrong but his party said was right it could be something as simple as endorsing a fellow Democrat he didn’t particulary care for but his party asked him to help.

All assholes.

Oh, it’s just a true scotsman thing. Never mind.