Liberal. I am interested in this thread. I respect you. I don’t think you are contributing anything. That is all I have to contribute.
Could you please explain to me where you read any of that in my posts?
Do you live here? Do you have the first hand experience I have? Do you have acces to data about fringe political parties and their influence? Do you hear the everyday talk on the street? Do you live in a town where a quarter of the population is Muslim?
And what, pray tell, is “my own kind”?
Merkwurdigliebe, my husband has just told me what your username means. Groovy! 
If you’re really saying that anyone in the world who can get himself to the Danish border should be given free health care and welfare, you won’t be Christian (or Danish) for long.
No, they wouldn’t, and you’re a fool if you believe they would. No matter what we do, there will always suffering and evil somewhere in the world, and it is simply insane to demand that Westerners must accept unlimited responsibility for protecting everybody everywhere in the world from every possible evil. Look, grow up. Try to understand that most people aren’t much impressed by your ridiculous moral pretentions.
Look, bub, it’s entirely normal and natural to identify with one’s own race, religion, ethnicity, nation and so on. When you smear such sentiments as “prejudice and racism,” it is you who are revealing a low moral character, not the people you attack. Your attitude reeks of vanity and malice, not compassion and concern for justice.
Are you saying that the flood of immigrants would destroy “our way of life”?
Apparently, “your” kind consists of sanctimonious gasbags. When you and all the other ninnies like you refuse to recognize any limit to the demands you make on the rest of us in the name of compassion, it is impossible to believe that you are in any way motivated by honest compassion.
I normally would not call myself enlightened but I suppose it’s a matter of degree and that, in comparison to you and your claims that it’s somehow worse to dislike people similar to you than those dissimilar, I am in this instance.
Yes, you fool, they would.
No, I don’t want 300 million different people of different and more restricted culture to overwhelm my state and culture In England because of the poor standards they have there. Besides, Humankind isn’t ready for that kind of live where you want on Earth attitude just yet.
I think we shouldn’t look at immigration at a person from A to B thing, look at the reasons behind them coming here. I think wiping debts would be a start.
ROTFLMAO!!! Ah, you arrogant little sparrow fart!
In my opinion your argument is a smokescreen covering up the real issue. The positive effects of immigration on western economies aside, certainly any country would have to balance their humanitarian efforts against available resources. But that’s not the issue.
I would like to refer you to Gaspodes’s excellent posting on page one, quoting:
*Pia Kjaersgaard, leader of nationalistic Danish People’s Party and part of the government coalition is on record as saying: “Fuck human rights”.
Another aspect is that this obviously was directed to the “less desireable elements” but hit equally. A debate started about Danes studying in the US, meeting womeone there and then returning home. The minister for Integration [my emph], Bertel Haarder: “Everyone knows this isn’t about Americans, but the rules must be the same for every one. Unfortunately. And I do mean unfortunately.”*
Denmark has come to the point where the goal of keeping the country as white & European as possible includes the deportation of an 88 year old woman who, apparently, cannot take care of herself.
I notice some defenders of Denmark in this thread are pointing out that she’s not paying taxes and are in need of health care. But frankly, her children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren are living in Denmark, and I suspect at least some of them are paying their share.
I do not think Denmark or any other nation should throw open its borders and yell “Come and get it!”. Certain limits and regulations on immigration are necessary (for example, a quick check or two to be sure that somebody hasn’t left their country because the police found all those bodies they’d hid in their crawlspace). BUT, from what I’m reading in this thread it sounds like Denmark has adopted a policy of “We welcome immigrants. So long as they are not ragheads, Pakis, or any other impure race.”
Merely donating an opinion, I assure you. Naturally, I expect nothing in return. Although I did find it frankly hilarious that when you tried to illustrate the difference between “donation” and “paying” above, both your links went to the exact same definition. So I guess I do feel like I’ve gained something from this after all.
But no, I have nothing more to add at this time.
And blah blah blah. Anybody who opposes policies that amount to unlimited immigration must be racist (GASP!!!). Anybody who asks, “How will these policies affect the quality of life for me, my family and my community?” must be a selfish monster. (SHAME ON YOU!!!)
What’s the point of trying to reason with toads like you?
More like “We welcome immigrants. So long as they are not ragheads, Pakis, or any other impure race. But since we can’t say that outloud we have now closed our door to everybody.” I have heard similar stories about Danes marrying citizens of other non-European wealthy nations also given crap by inmmigration in DK. Funny though that both princeses married foreigners and had no trouble bringing them ‘home’. :rolleyes:
How is allowing an elderly, deathly ill woman to stay in Denmark opening up the boarders for thousands of refugees to come flooding in?
I believe someone pointed out that Danish law allows them to look at immigration and such on a case by case basis. Surely this is one of those cases where the person should be allowed to stay?
Who are talking about, quote: “unlimited immigration”? I said: Certainly any country would have to balance their humanitarian efforts against available resources. Didn’t I say that?
The point in question is: Are immigrants belonging to a certain culture ok, while immigrants from a different, more remote, culture a no-no? If your answer is yes, then you are a racist pig. Or do you simply believe that cultures cannot mix?
And how exactly are those policies affecting the quality of life for you, your family and your community? Maybe you should try to explain that.
I’m saying that if you open the doors completely, of course they would. There is such a thing as a reasonably sustainable level of immigration, and also such a thing as a complete abandonment of sovereignty and national identity. The “open borders” position taken in several above posts is the latter, not the former.
You can live in a welfare state, or you can have open borders, but not both.