@Kyla: Something I remember hearing, but no cite and not sure if true: Roads aren’t that great anymore. After Israel gave Sinai back, Egypt drove tanks all over the roads and destroyed them.
Anyways, we all agreed about the results of the war and that there is absolutely no real reason for either side to go to war. /thread?
I don’t know - I think we’ve left the dinosaur vs. tiger issue dangerously unresolved, haven’t we?
Alright. Cat that is bigger than a modern tiger vs. lizard the size of a turkey. Tiger wins.
/thread.
Deep thought of the day.
If we pay for a quarter of two countries militaries, and those two countries go to war, are we fighting a proxy war against ourselves?
Well, yeah. That’s the whole point of the military support - the side that starts a fight gets cut off.
that’s a laugh.
Like today where Israel are willing to negotiate peace but Biden and Mitchell and the rest of the world can’t even get them to stop settlements to even get indirects talks going.
Seems like Israel does not make any compromises even if the International community wants them to to get peace. They want it all. Always will do.
Seems that you all think too that I want a war.
Where did you get that crazy notion from ?
I live here so NO I don’t want war.
I was saying if you read my post that IF Israel attacked Iran, you would see Syria and Lebanon and Egypt back Iran and most importantly Turkey would be there too.
In fact you might just see Turkey hit Israel sooner than any Iran conflict because they have stated categorically that they will support Palestinians if Israel launch another attack on Gaza.
“Turkish Prime Minister Rajab Tayyip Erdogan warned Israel against responding to rocket attacks from the Gaza strip. In an interview with the Turkish TV station TRT Erdogan said that Turkey will not stand idly by if Israel carries out another campaign inside the Gaza Strip again.”
Take what you will from his statement.
Hysterical.
You have never been to Sinai then obviously in May.
Actually if you do come you will see the Ain Musa Fortification bunkers all held up by the Egyptian what was railroad sleepers and track. The Israeli’s didn’t build roads. They destroyed Sinai.
I know Sinai well. I go there a lot to our other house so don’t try to tell me this crap.
The Main road from Cairo to Sharm is two lane!! often covered in sand, has many places with no road lines or marking. It’s a freaking desert!
Granted the Israeli’s will know the area well. Everyone does now we have Google earth:rolleyes:
Taken 6 months ago
Cairo to Suez Rd (Cairo side) most of the way looks like this if there is no rain and no sandstorm. Look we have dual carriageway:cool:
Approaching the Ahmed Hamdi Tunnel( Cairo side)leading to Sinai.
The Main Cairo to Sharm Rd (in Sinai) at the Hammam Pharoun ( a tourist destination!!) between the two signs.
Most of the road from Suez Tunnel Sinai side looks like this. Double track. This is actually a main road in Sinai!
If you look closely you will see an Egyptian soldier in the last one.
They are everywhere you look doing desert manoeuvres.
I must have missed all those lovely ’ Israeli built ’ roads then:D
The best road I’ve been on is the Egyptian Army built Cairo to Sokhna Rd but it is still only 2 lane.
In that case, I’d suggest the displaced European Jews who it was decided had a right to return to “their homeland”, started that particular fight in the ME.
Now just before someone comes on and tells me Egypt doesn’t get floods:rolleyes:
Feb 2010 Sinai
( Main Rd from Suez to Sharm)
Highway was washed away and had to be repaved by Egyptian Army.
Deeper thought.
What if US weapons factories all closed tomorrow?
What if YOU stopped making up strawmen?
Seriously… I am not going to try to debate you when you just make up random anti-Israel “facts”. When you are ready to debate for real, send me a PM.
Guy in the office showed me this and asked me since I am Egyptian do I want to join in and discuss.
Guys , here is my opinion coming from someone who lives in the middle east and Egypt in particular.
Israel ( we consider it invaders from Europe ).
Is still an occupying foreign force which is armed by Europe and USA.
Without Europe & USA , Israel is nothing as they can not survive in the region by their own.
So Israel is not a real country … it is a watch dog for the west ( getting fed and armed to keep an eye on our resources ).
We are 80 million people who hate Zionists not the Jews , therefore we hate Israel so much which is illegally made by occupying our own land of Palestine.
Arabs (Palestinians+ Arabs of the Gulf ) are Semitic people who were born here , who lived here for thousands of years.
Israelis in general are European Jews who came from Europe to kill us and steal our land.
Regarding the military power, Yes Israel is very powerful and thanks to the USA, who is starving 40 million American of their own and give the tax money to the Zionists to practise their terrorism against Arabs (Muslims & Christians)
1000 Years ago, Palestine was occupied by Crusaders for more than 83 years and European crusaders who murdered the Arabs (Muslims & Christians ) and stole their land , established the kingdom of Jerusalem and thought this will last for long.
This happened when the Arabs were a sleep …
When they woke up, put hands together … they kicked their asses out back to Europe where they came from.
Egypt is powerful and Zionists in Palestine are powerful too.
When we wake up again , and put hand together … Zionists will be contained without one bullet.
They live in the middle of an Arab lake, surrounded by Arabs who are filled everyday by hatred to Zionism and occupying European Jews who claim to be Semitic when they are not.
Ibrahim the father of the Arabs and the Hebrews came from the north of Iraq and that’s why the Arabs and ancient Hebrews called Semitic people.
Jews in Israel nowadays are mostly Europeans, Russians, American, with a small number of black Yehud alflasha from Ethiopia.
Anyway, back to the current story (military power)
If Israel strikes Iran.
USA fleet will be the first target of the Iranian army navy … most of it will sink in the Gulf … Petrol will be very expensive , Europe will be back to the dark ages … America will lose another war … many Israelis and Arabs will die along side the American victims of the stupidity.
Egypt , Jordan , Lebanon represented by a few men from HezbAllah, Syria and Turkey will join in the game, 5 countries will be raining rockets on the heads of the European occupiers of Palestine … a big environmental disaster will occur as I believe that a nut case from Israel will be using nukes against the liberators , the Liberators will answer back by throwing more chemical bombs.
Middle East will big mess, Europe will go back to dark ages. America will not find any good land to occupy.
Probably Americans will get back Health insurance when the money stays in America and not to go to Israel to support it’s terrorism and aggression against Arabs.
40 millions in poverty in the USA will not food stamps any more because your money will stay in the country.
But I think Americans will find another one to fight as they can not survive without wars.
America is the most terrorist country in the modern history.
They were the first and only country to use nuclear weapons against civilians resulting in the death of more than 150 thousand innocent Japs.
American is the only country supporting the terrorism and aggression of Zionists against the neighbouring countries.
America is the country who is not supporting the UN by forcing and imposing its resolutions to establish world peace.
America attacks Iraq when Iraq did not attack America.
America drops bombs and murder civilian Iraqis when there is not one single Iraqi attacked an American.
America invades Afghanistan on the head of civilian Afghanis who do not know anything about America not even attacking it.
America has got ships sailing all over the international water thinking that they are the world patrol police.
At the end … America is run by Zionists who love blood and money, who do not care about their own people and let them starve and give their money away to terrorists such as (Zionists in Palestine, Taliban & Bin Laden in the seventies … and more )
Americans who paid Sadam Hussein to fight Iran can not find health care, jobs or food.
Americans who pay to make the Israelis very rich and one of the most nations on earth who live very comfortable life when you yourselves suffer, starve and sit home unemployed. or have to do two jobs just to survive.
you send your own sons and kids to fight people they never heard of, and get back home in coffins or losing limbs.
you destroyed Iraq, you are fighting and making enemies on behalf of the Zionists who control you by the neck.
You go and murder foreign people you never met in your life , and make more enemies … in addition to that you make more American orphans or widows to make your masters who are occupying Palestine happy and powerful who will hesitate to attack you if you ever think of criticise them. even your own vice president who was licking their dirty asses was humiliated and never respected.
Why every president has to meet up with the masters of America and lick their asses (AIPAC organisation) and the other branch in Palestine.
So make no mistake if Israel attacks Iran , we will join our Muslim brothers and finish Israel once and for good.
We will have a lot of casualties … but at the end of the day it’s our own land, we inherited it from our ancestors and will die for it unlike the European IDF who all or most have two passports in case they need to leave the land quickly.
Hi to the Facts guys.
By the way
Egypt in the first days of the war of 6th of October day 1973 was about to wipe the Zionists out if it was not for the continuous support of the USA.
Ask Golda Maeir who was crying on the phone to the American president asking to rescue the sinking ship.
Sinai is full of Egyptian well trained soldiers who are camping very close to our borders with occupied Palestine … ready to defend our soil.
3 million soldiers (1/2 the population of the Zionists) ready, and a whole nation of 80 million behind them not mentioning the rest of the Arab countries and 3 million Palestinians waiting for the whistle to blow.
One day America will wake up.
Uhhh…
Nah. I’m not gonna do it. Nor do I think anyone else should bother. Even assuming this was on the up-and-up, the post-parsing wall of text required would make my eyes bleed.
Huh. And here I thought we signed a peace agreement.
The sad thing is, while you Egyptians seem to be obsessed with Israel, we Israelis hardly ever think about Egypt at all.
Is this a joke ???
the Israelis know only how to destroy … demolish.
As I am an Egyptian who drives a lot in Sinai between the western side of Egypt and Palestine & occupied Palestine which you call Israel has very bad network of roads which has been destroyed by the European Zionists using American bombs.
In Egypt we do not have great roads in general but all our roads are built by Egyptians and Egyptian companies, and some built by the Egyptian army ex, Ain Sukhna Road which has the max speed limit of 120 KM/h in Egypt.
They are building Alex desert road which will become completely free way in a few years.
And say Hi to your friends who destroy and demolish the Palestinian houses and Gaza roads last year. 
may be my English is not that great , but at least I know a foreign language.
If you want me to put in Arabic … you are welcome.
تحيا مصر… تحيا مصر …
ًWhat kind of Peace man
terrorising and humiliating the Palestinians everyday !!
bombing Lebanon ?
occupying Jerusalem and declaring it your capital ?
occupying part of Syria since 1967 ?
Threatening us everyday with your borrowed power ?
you are welcome to live … we always had Jews living among us for more than thousand years.
But the way you landed in our land is not welcome at all.
the way you behave is not welcome at all.
Stop and think for a moment … why do we hate you ???
Is because you are Jews ??? or because you are aggressors and terrorists terrorising us and striking us and our brothers constantly.
Think about this,
You lie and say you are Semitic , but you are not ! you are European settlers who believe in Judaism.
You are not the Hebrews who are the brothers of the Arabs and who come from Iraq originally. (where prophet Ibrahim come from)
Peace means Peace … no wars … no more occupying, no invasions, no threats , abiding to UN resolution which formed the organisation of Israel on Palestinian Arab land.
If you say that you have a legal resolution from the UN to form your country, so why does your country does not apply all UN resolutions ?
Or you just accept what suits you and throw what you do not like ??
This is a fact …
you are an aggressor occupied Arab land and your origins are back in Europe, Russia and America.
Peace my friend is peace in all languages as I described it above.
The peace between the Israeli people and the Egyptian people, of course. It saddens me to think that you may have signed that agreement in bad faith; the Egyptians are believed to be an honorable nation.
To everyone else: for years, I’ve been trying to convince you that the Arab-Israeli conflict is not about the Territories, but about the Arabs’ inability to accept Israel’s very existance. It’s nice to see one of our Arab cousins supporting my position.
This is some seriously weird shit.
The Turks apparently have no problem standing idly by while Hizbollah attacks Israel. But the notion of Israel trying to put a stop to it is intolerable.
:rolleyes:
Regards,
Shodan
In 2002 the Arab League offered a full peace treaty to Israel which says that Israel is welcome and accepted to be fully represented and recognised by all Arab countries and open embassies in all Arab capital in return Israel should withdraw from all the land occupied in 1967 and allow the Palestinians to establish own state.
Unfortunatly Israel let this down and refused they prefer to be hated and keep the land.