A knight charges a parked car on horseback. The result?

This video describes the development of the lance and demonstrates the resultant effects on impact delivery.

It describes three stages of lance evolution: firstly, holding the lance in the hand; secondly, couching the lance under the arm; and, finally, using an underarm, couched lance with the addition of a shaped handgrip and flange, called a grapper, which buttresses the lance against the shoulder for maximum support.

The results of lance impact tests are then replicated at a ballistics laboratory. Even the couched, grappered lance is only able to slightly penetrate replica 13th century armor. The armor used in the video looks to be thinner than I’d presume the metal bodywork of a car to be, so I would guess that even if one was able to transfer the full impact power of a lance against the body of a car (and not have it deflected), then penetration would be minimal, if any.

Well no. A car body is made of mild steel about 0.7/0.8 mm thick, the authentic breast plate in the video would be made of 2-3mm hardened steel. My suspicion is the point of a late medieval war lance would punch straight through the car body. Add to that that the experiment on the video measured the impact of the lance on a foam aluminium disk on a quintain. When hit by the lance you can see that a lot of the energy goes into making the target rotate round the post. Drive a lance into the side of a stationary car sitting solidly on four tyres and all the energy will go into penetrating the metal.

In The Face of Battle, John Keegan runs through some thought experiments about cavalry and lances. For one thing, the vaunted “shock” effect of cavalry charges was largely moral, moreso than physical impact. Horses won’t intentionally run into solid objects nor armed men if they can help it. Apparently also a lot of “charges” were more like a steady advance, keeping the horses together and preserving their stamina as long as possible. It’s almost as dangerous to wind up among the enemy on a “blown” horse, unable to escape rapidly, as it is to pile into a line of pikes and get impaled.

So to fast forward a bit here, a typical “charge” seems to have involved the horsemen advancing steadily, but menacingly, on a line of foot.

If the footmen stay in formation and work together, they can repel almost any mounted force in hand-to-hand (horse archers like Mongols are another story) because you can fit a hell of a lot more spearmen/pikemen on a line than you can horsemen…I don’t recall precise numbers, but Keegan worked out something like 125-150 bayonets on one facing of a square, opposed by, at most, 35-36 riders. If the infantry doesn’t lose its nerve it vastly outnumbers the same frontage of cavalry. But mounted knights are scary as hell, and have a reputation their social “inferiors” have been taught from birth to fear. Sometimes one or more of the footmen has doubts, recoils at the last moment, breaks formation, or even runs.

In a memorable phrase, one soldier described a “visible shiver” running across a line of infantry standing to receive a charge. That moment of doubt is what the cavalry are looking for.

Disorganized footmen are wholly more vulnerable. If line is not solidly maintained by resolute fighters, openings or gaps appear as individuals shy away from impending contact. Horsemen can exploit these gaps, riding into the formation and fighting from their height advantage. Here the lance has another utility surprising to the modern mind – even from horseback, it’s easy to stick someone lying on the ground with your long spear, so there’s no escape by laying low. Keegan noted that written records from Waterloo, where a lot of lance-wielding cavalry fought, show a great deal of re-wounding of the wounded, who were presumably on the ground once wounded, and posits that the lances made it easy to inflict such injuries without the need to dismount and put oneself at risk.

The relevance here is that in real combat, there was apparently not a lot of running full tilt into something to add momentum to aid penetration. So the whole scenario many stem more from tournament fighting and/or fantasy than real war.

I thought so as well, which is why my initial assumption was that the knight would be using a tourney lance.

I’m thinking the lance gets stuck, the horse bolts and the knight breaks the lance falling on it causing the stuck part to snap back up across the knight throat … Car 1, Knight 0 …

Yes, you’re right. Automotive sheet metal is a lot thinner than I thought. I’m revising my guesstimate to the lance making a hole, if it doesn’t deflect or break first.

Of course, cars are designed to deflect (air); I’m guessing that unless you swing the lance to smash, or hit a sticky part (like the grill), the lance will deflect. I’m not sure what happens if it slides off the windshield to the edge- prob not good.

Better is the lance gets stuck in the car but bends like a pole vault, and the knight gets sproinged across the block to smash through a plate glass window leaving a perfect knight-shaped hole.

That’s what would happen to this guy.

A car isn’t a wall. Any reason the horse won’t just jump onto the hood of the car? I’m not too familiar with horses, but I’ve seen them jump fences.

I would imagine most of the damage would have been done to enemies that fled, as they would end up skewered from the back.

Medieval combat was all about demoralizing the enemy and destabilizing cohesion. Send 200 knights at a trot at a unit, and unless they are well trained, many will run, and that unit loses cohesion, making them more vulnerable to your own infantry. If no one flees, and out come the spears to keep the cavalry at bay, bring in the archers, or engage with infantry and flank with the more agile cavalry. They’ll have to be very well trained not to run when there’s angry horses coming at them from the rear.

If his credit’s good, it goes through.

The chess piece bounces off the windshield unnoticed.

Car glass is very tough, hard, and above all it’s angled. Any lance is just going to glance off. The glass may crack or star a little but that is all.

It’s all about angle. Sure, a war lance would punch through sheet metal if it strikes perpendicular, but if the lance hits the hood or roof or sides it will just glance off. Sheet metal is slippery, tough and bouncy.

The knight better hope the lance bounces off. Because a car isn’t a man. If the knight manages to get the lance to penetrate, perhaps by hitting the car on an area perpendicular to his charge (such as in the radiator), the lance will penetrate, then stop. And if the knight has his weight firmly behind the lance, and the lance doesn’t break, he is going to stop. Very suddenly. I’m thinking slightly damaged car, and knight with broken shoulder or arm.

um, we’ve actually done this. Not with lances, but if you gallop a horse directly at a car it just jumps over the car.

Did medieval knights actually use lances to fight, anyway? I thought that was a later cavalry development.

Definitely. Watch the programmeWalken After Midnight linked to above. It is based on British historical experience but it shows the use of lances from Hastings in the 11th century, through Lewis in the 13th to Bannockburn in the 14th. As infantry tactics improved and firearms became more effective the heavy medieval lance used by an armoured knight mostly fell out of use but lighter lances came back into use the 18th and 19th centuries.

Yes, they did, until defenders learned to use Toyota Camrys to stop the charges.