“Oh, and she wants you to win now, BTW”
“RAAAAH !”
I would have dumped her then and there, love or no love, hotness or no hotness. Games aren’t cute.
I wanted to run a lance through her that. What a bitchy way to behave. Make him “prove” his love by letting himself get beaten half to death, and then turn around when he’s so hurt he can hardly breathe and have to WIN to prove the same thing. He should have dropped her off a cliff somewhere.
Still, I can’t help loving this movie!! The modern music was fun against the backdrop of jousting tourneys, and I loved the whole story. Just wanted to smack Jocelyn around, a LOT!!
Ditto (only substitute Fraser for Sossamon). Argent, I think you know I’m an armour geek too, but in this movie, it didn’t bother me that the armour was inaccurate one little bit (like it didn’t bother me in Excalibur either). Now, Besson’s The Messenger, on the other hand, there the inaccuracies bothered me a lot…
The entire ‘love’ part of the story was a complete drag for me. Jocelyn was a very poor actress in comparison to Ledger, she had little on-screen charisma, and the chemistry seemed to be whatever the director could salvage.
The game-playing is part of the actual “Ulrich von Lichtenstein” tale (referenced earlier) but it just bored me. Everything else was just fun.
I was certain when Jocelyn told Will that she wanted him to win after all that he’d win, she’d come running over all lovey-dovey, and he’s say something like “Sorry, babe. I won that one for ME! Now to find a girl who doesn’t play games…” And then he’d wind up with Kate.
I still can’t believe that the filmmakers didn’t see this would have been a much better romance plot. Although it was rather obnoxious, I could somewhat understand Joceyln wanting a man to prove that he cared more about her than about winning. But when she turned around and said “Oh, I changed my mind, now win against incredible odds” I lost all sympathy for her character. She could have been trampled to death by a horse for all I cared.
I like the movie. A lot. I just think he picked the wrong girl in the end.
My wife and I both love the movie, bought it, and my son watches it when he is home sick from school.
The DVD extras really help spell it out. The Director comments that he is sure that some music was played at the tourneys, that the fans had their favorites - so he wanted to portray that in a way that was immediately approachable to the audience. Result - painted faces, guys with their shirts off, tankards of beer, and Queen. You take the elements of an NFL or college Football match and put it in a jousting scene. Even better is that a lot of the action is ad libbed due to extras who don’t speak English! As I recall, the woman dancing in the stands just started doing it and they filmed her.
The costumes (according the costume person on the DVD) were not based on history, but rather on Fleetwood Mac and the Rolling Stones during the fantasy rock period of the 70s.
I don’t know an NFL game that is not complete without yak’s meat and hot wine. 
Are you bringing it over for next week’s game or not?
Note to self: Do not party with ivylass or Algher.
Note to self: Do.
Per pale gules and Or, a lion rampant argent langued and armed sable confronting a unicorn passant azure horned argent.
But I would never put a lion on a red background. Lions work so much better with red tongue and claws than with black.
Likewise, a unicorn almost has to be white, so I wouldn’t put it on the yellow background.
A Knight’s Tale has pretty much everything I dislike in movies - over-the-top anachronisms for humour’s sake, a conventional plot and mediocre special effects. And yet, I find it really enjoyable. The way it treats historical accuracy as an afterthought is actually very winning and the performers have a ton of fun with their roles. Fun movie.
Oh, for all those people who get peeved about historical inaccuracy (ESPECIALLY in a movie that is clearly not trying to be historically accurate) please find another hobby.
Did you know that people in that time would have had terrible teeth? That their clothes would have been tattered? That their language would be almost incomprehensible? That the lighting would have been awful? And on and on and on. These are not historical documents. Movies will ALWAYS have problems with historical recreations. Please get past it. In movies story, time and budget will always win over accuracy. As it should.
The anachronisms don’t really bother me; what bothers me is that the armour they used in the movie looks stupid compared to the armour that knights actually wore back then, which looked incredibly badass. It’s not really the historical inaccuracy that peeves me so much as the fact that they missed a great opportunity to showcase unbelievably badass-looking and visually fascinating armour and heraldry (that actually existed), in favor of using suits of plate armour that, frankly, just look kind of lame.
If the links up-page are examples of what you would rather see, then we shall have to respectfully disagree once again.
What you see as badass, I see as gaudy and stupid looking, and believe that such bright, peacock style armour would just distract the average viewer from the movie itself.
The armour in the film seems functional to me. Thats all it has to be, because the film isnt about the armour.
Going back and checking, I think I was more charitable to A Knight’s Tale’s over the top anachronisms and the like in comparison to another 2001 movie: The Musketeer, which managed to be an insult to the audience, western martial arts, eastern martial arts, historians, action-movie fans, and random audience members who were just in the theater to hide from the police.
This was in the period following the Mongol conquest of most of Asia (though I believe it’s after things started to fall apart). Europe was much more linked up with the Far East than it had been in a very long time (perhaps ever). Still, probably not a lot of Filipinos or Hawaiians ended up in Western Europe (an understatement).
Oddly, I find **Braveheart **more jarringly ahistorical. A Knight’s Tale is a case of
Braveheart is anachronistic to exaggerate mythic Scottishness.
Sounds right to me.