A Little Knowledge...

I’m one of those guys who has a head for useless facts, you know? I’ve noticed that a lot of Dopers seem to be like this.

I can tell you who won medals at the Battle of Rorke’s Drift, the names of Hitler’s dogs, who played Lou Gehrig in the movie of his life… I can remember all sorts of trivia, on the condition that it’s trivia that won’t help me make any money, you know?

Weirdly enough, my father-in-law is the same kind of person. What’s worse, we’re both history buffs. This has led to any number of conversations where the family’s together, and something will come up in the subject that leads one of us to make a comment about history…

…and then the other will pipe up, “Yeah, and…”

…and the next thing you know, he and I will be discussing the details of the Battle of Rorke’s Drift while the rest of the family is looking confusedly at each other. Huh?

This led my daughter, when she was younger, to make an observation that between me and her Grandpa, we pretty much knew everything. Either we both knew it, or one of us did; anything one didn’t know, the other one would know. This made it extremely handy when both of us were in the room, if you wanted to know what a word meant, or you were trying to write a paper for History or English Lit; not only could we tell you what you wanted to know, it was a fair bet that one of us would have the book on hand, so you could easily fudge your bibliography.

Now, this makes my wife a little nuts. I don’t know why. My wife’s far from stupid herself, and has an uncanny knack for watching a given movie or TV show, analyzing the narrative, and correctly determining how it will end… no longer than halfway through it. I’ve always found this amazing. But it makes her crazy that if her father and I are in a room, and you ask any given question, we will answer in unison… or only one of us will speak… but never *neither * of us.

She’s tried to catch us out, more than once. So far, one of us has always been able to answer the question.

Now, what’s worse… I have a strong strain of Irish in the blood, and it’s been said that not only did my ancestors kiss the blarney stone more than once, but that we actually hacked OFF a hunk of it, ground it up, and fed it to our young at some point, with their morning oatmeal. And I will admit to a bit of a wicked streak when it comes to leading folks down the primrose path, on occasion.

This has led to some situations where my wife will ask a question of me… and listen patiently to my answer… and then remark, “You’re b.s’ing, aren’t you?”

Usually about the point in the story where the Nazi frogmen burst into the room, guns drawn, if you know what I mean.

So… basically, what we have here is a situation where you have two guys, who, between them, have access to all earthly knowledge… but, on occasion, one of them might be lying through his teeth, just to see how far along in the story he can get before you catch on, right?

Yeah, I know. Makes my poor wife nuts.

Anyway, the other night, we were lying in bed reading, side by side. I don’t remember what I was reading. She was reading The Demon-Haunted World, by Carl Sagan. And at one point, she rolled over, and said, “Honey… what does lebensraum mean?”

“Uhmm, German,” I replied. “Means ‘space to expand’ or ‘room in which to live’. Generally used in conjunction with colonization. Literal translation, living room.”

She sat bolt upright, and hissed, “How the hell do you know that?”

I jumped, a little. “Um… well… it’s German,” I fumbled.

“Howthehell did you pull German vocabulary out of nowhere?”

Now, at this point, my sense of mischief kind of got the better of me. “You mean, you don’t speak German?” I said.

“NO, you miserable rat-bastard, and neither do you!” she snarled. “Now howthehell did you know what Lebensraum means?”

Ach, ein fang,” I remarked. “Ich bin ein Berliner. Achtung! Vorsicht, bissiger Hund. Angebot leer, wo verboten. Keine Früchte oder Gemüse hinter diesem Punkt.”*

“Dammit! There is no way we’ve been married for ten years, and I just never noticed that you speak German! You are RECITING, not speaking! Now how the hell do you know what *Lebensraum * means?!?”

I sighed. Looked like it was going to have to be the boring old truth, after all. “All right,” I remarked. “Remember when I told you about how I went nuts over model kits, when I was nine?”

“Right,” she said, suspiciously.

“And how I built military model kits, and how I got interested in World War II, looking for pictures, so I could build them to look just like the real thing?”

“Right,” she said, suspiciously.

“And how I wound up reading all this stuff about World War II, Hitler, the causes of the war, and so on?”

“Right,” she said, suspiciously.

“Well, lebensraum was part of Hitler’s official policy. One of his favorite words. Pops up quite a bit in some of his speeches, right up there with “aryan.” The lebensraum policy was basically why he wanted to clean out the Slavic countries, wipe out the Slavs, and replace 'em with good Aryan Germans. Space to live. Colonization room. He used the word quite a bit. That’s why I remember it. From my studies.”

She looked at me a moment, weighing my words and demeanor against the possibility that I might simply have regrouped and chosen yet another primrose path. “Thank you,” she said, finally. “That fits with the context. The author here has chosen the word “lebensraum” in reference to what white settlers did to the Indians, Manifest Destiny, and all that.”

“Ah,” I remarked. “Makes sense. Same basic thing.”

She cooled down. We returned to our books.

After a long while, she asked me, “What does aubergine* * mean?”

“Um,” I said. “I don’t know. Not a clue. Haven’t the foggiest. No comprendo. I–”

And then she beat the crap out of me.

Women. Who understands them?

*“Wow, a beginning,” I remarked. “I am a jelly doughnut. Attention! Beware of the dog. Offer void where prohibited. No fruits or vegetables past this point.”

**Aubergine: European word for “eggplant.”

HEHEHE! Awesome! Haven’t had my Wng-Ka fix in a while, and that story made my day.

My best BS moment was years ago when I was in college. The drama department was having tryouts for Hamlet, and I went with my friend Jim to auditions. We both got bit parts as guards, and only had a couple of lines each. However, the director required everybody who took part in a scene to be present at rehearsals. All I did was stand in the background holding a lance, but I had to be there.

Jim and I got to the point where we could remember everybody’s lines, and we’d recite them to each other during breaks. I also managed to get a feel for the director’s nuances. She loved irony. For instance, it was traditional for actors to enter stage right for the first time they appeared in the play. It’s bad luck to enter stage left. She had King Claudius enter stage left, since he was the villain.

While blocking the scene where Ophelia goes mad after finding out her father is dead, the director mentioned she wanted to have the actress do something other than stand there and recite her lines. People were suggesting things like “throw flower petals” “play hopscotch” and such. All the sudden I piped in with “Well, in Norse mythology, whenever Hela, Goddess of Death, decreed that someone was to die, she’d send a valkyrie maiden down to dance a circle around the victim.” The director looked at me and said “OH REALLY???”

Of course that’s bullshit. The other three people in that scene eventually die in the play, and I knew the director would love putting in that sense of premonition. I just wanted to see if I could snowball her into actually having Ophelia dance around the other actors on stage.

What’s more, the guy playing Claudius got up and said “Why yes, the Valkyries were servants of death and blah blah blah…” He wasn’t doing it to go along with the joke. He was fooled too. He did it because he wanted to be in the spotlight.

hee hee hee

Hee, hee.

Yeah… I guess it doesn’t actually count as “fighting ignorance,” but it’s certainly more fun…

:smiley:

The key is to read a wide variety of stuff, and to remember what you read…

I am always amazed by people who don’t (or can’t) do either.

I read a lot, and play a lot of Trivial Pursuit, and I usually absorb a good deal of the information. My parents and brother are the same way, and we often have arguments over which of us is the smartest.

One night, we were watching Jeopardy! over dinner, and the Final Jeopardy answer went something like “There is a statue of this famous spy in front of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.”

I immediately pipe up, “Who is Nathan Hale?” I remember where I picked up this information–it was a novel by Clive Cussler, although I can’t recall which, after some time they all seem about the same. I know for a fact that both my father and my brother would have read this book, yet once the right answer was revealed, my brother actually accused me of having seen the episode before (they both said Benedict Arnold). He believed there was no way I could know that, and I therefore must be cheating.

I also have a friend with the unbelievable bullshit skills described above, and I take any answer he gives with a grain of salt. I think my favorite thus far was when he explained to his girlfriend that Legolas can walk on top of the snow when others have to slog through it because all elves have hollow bones. It seemed perfectly logical to me, so I accepted it for longer than I care to reveal. :slight_smile:

Huh? Nathan Hale was a spy. Benedict Arnold was a military commander who changed sides.

We covered this stuff in grade school, for potato’s sake… (although, now that I think about it, I was in grade school during the Bicentennial Year, which may account for much of my generation’s knowledge of American history…)

I also retain usless information. One of my favorite books is 2201 Fascinating Facts. I first read it when I was in elementary school. I got in trouble in 6th grade because my history teacher was telling the class that the pyramids in Egypt were the tallest in the world and I was able to prove her wrong (Mexico) by showing her the book. I’ve learned when to not open my mouth now but I still love it when I say something and I get, “How the hell do you know this crap?!?!”.

This has actually helped me at work though. I can remember an e-mail I received 6 months before and use it to solve a problem. It kind of annoys my boss.

I usually can’t remember what I wear from one day to the next though.

Another collector of trivia. My head is full of facts, useless and otherwise. Drove my wife nuts; I would come up with the weirdest bits of information off the top of my head while we were watching TV. And if I didn’t know something, I would pull out a volume of the encyclopedia, or a book off the shelf, and look it up. When I got the cable modem and suddenly had immediate and rapid access to the Internet I became really insufferable.

Just don’t ask me to remember things like how old my nieces and nephews are, or where I left the magazine I was reading last week.

I love guys like y’all. The only thing I’m really good with is words.

(I knew both lebensraum and aubergine.)

Archergal
WordNerd

So how dumb did you feel when you found out an aubergine was an eggplant, ignorant Yankee?

(just kidding)

Heh. I think maybe I’m related to you people.

I have a head for useless information as well, and a complete inability to remember my Social Security number (actually, that’s not true - I know mine, my husband’s, my daughter’s and two of my five brothers’ numbers. Why, I don’t know, I just do.) I do forget relatively important stuff though, while retaining volumes of trivia.

And I’m also a pretty good BSer, so occasionally, when stumped, I will make up an answer. So far I’ve only been caught at it once, when a friend who was listening intently to my explanation of some chemical reaction suddenly caught my eye and said, “You’re making this up, aren’t you?” I was so far out of my realm of actual knowledge that I said, “Um. Yeah.”

I love pulling obscure information out of nowhere. (I also love snowing people with fake trivia, but the real stuff is better).

Possibly my finest moment in this regard came while watching (Lady help me) Poltergeist: The Legacy with a friend. A character was poring over an ancient document that he was trying to decipher, but he didn’t recognize the script. At one point there was a brief, clear shot of the document. I confidently announced:

“The fool! It’s obviously mirror-reversed Aramaic.”
<friend gives me a strange look>
<Character looks thoughtful, holds up a mirror by the page, and begins translating>
Character: “It’s Aramaic!”

My friend went all googly-eyed and insisted that I couldn’t have known that, as it was a brand-new episode. In turn, I insisted that it was obvious, and furthermore, proof that the props crew for the show was better than the writers (no great challenge, that).

Congrats, Balance! I’ve managed a few like that, but not with such perfect timing.

I also have a head full of miscellaneous stuff (see my sig), and have been know to BS from time to time. Usually I try to taking it farther and farther out until the victim has to notice. Sometimes that doesn’t work - the victim just takes the craziest stuff, until I have to relent.