The question I have
concerning alcohol is how it effects you. I fully understand the equivalence
factor, but there is another theory my fiancée` has. His experience tending
bar leads him to believe that different kinds of alcohol effect people
differently. An example would be; someone would tend to stay away from
whiskey, in the thought that it brings out the meanness in them. I believe
that it’s the amount of alcohol and the speed of consumption that is
directly related to the effects. Or another person might say that a specific
kind of alcohol will give them a hangover while another one does not. Do the Teeming Millions or Cecil have any facts that will support or not support any of these beliefs?
I await your reply.
I’m not really sure what your question asks. A few notes here.
Yes, some varieties of alcohol affect people differently. Red wines are far more likely to produce hangovers than whites (the cogeners) and people get drunk on martinis in a shorter space of time than if they’re pullin’ on Miller Lites.
As far as the “it brings out the meaness in them” question, I’ll hazard the guess that personality changes related to alcohol consumption remain the same (you become a mean drunk or a happy drunk) regardless of the delivery system. If you’re prone to becoming a mean drunk, you just get there quicker on martinis.
Beatle… That’s very good information…but are you saying that with an equal amount of alcohol in a Martini…and the same in a Miller Lite…drank at the same speed…they will porduce different results? I believe that most people drink shots and mixed drinks faster…due to the less volume…so thay are actually drunker faster. Most people I think on an average comsume about 2 beers an hour…but a person can drink three to four shots…or a mix of stuff. If you took just the ahcohol out of beer and wine and whiskey…and sat a few different kind of drinkers down…and gave them their equivalent to what they normally consume… and at the same speed of which they drink…who would be drunker? Please reply.
I do know a few people who allege that when they get drunk on Tequila, they end up “doing things they would never do drinking anything else”, such as whisky, rum, wine, beer, or even Everclear. One was a a woman who claimed that she could get drunk on Everclear Kool-Aid until she passed out, and never did anything interesting. But when it was Tequila, ah then came the incidents of the Naked Drive, the incident of shooting 6 rounds from a .38 through her apartment wall, and the time she woke up in in a tent in a KOA Kampground in Arkansas, no car or other personal belongings, when the previous night she had been in Kansas.
The scary thing is - I knew her personally, and knew she was not making the incidents up. She called her brother (my best friend)to pick her up in Arkansas so their parents wouldn’t find out. Since Bro’s car didn’t work, she had the surprise of Dad, Mom, and Bro picking her up personally. They tell me it was a long, quiet trip back to Kansas.
Long story short, I can’t imagine a scientific reason for Tequila affecting her in a different way than any other alcohol. Part of it could have been a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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I know this is not exactly what you mean, but FYI… there is only one type of alcohol that is meant to be consumed in social situations, and its name is ethanol. Furthermore, ethanol is ethanol is ethanol is ethanol… Any difference in effects from different drinks is not from the alcohol itself, but from anything else that may be in the drink. Personally, I cannot drink Killian’s Irish Red (beer). It gives me one hell of a headache. But, I will tell you that it has nothing to do with the alcohol. There is something in it that I am allergic to. There is also a psychological effect from drinking. Ever heard of giving someone non-alcoholic beer to see what they do? If you expect to do weird things when drinking X, and then drink X, you will be more inclined to do weird things.
What I meant above was that certain means of imbibing (martinis, Tequila shots) put alcohol into your system at a greater rate than others usually do. When people drink beer, they tend to consume alcohol at a slower rate than when they’re sitting around the Tequila bottle. And, as noted by Steve-o (you don’t live in Austin, do you?), some alcoholic beverages affect people differently through the effects of some other ingredient.
I can tell a difference myself. Ice House beer will always give me a headache after three beers. That is the only beer I have a problem with. I usually don’t drink beer because it causes too many trips to the bathroom. I can drink vodka, gin or such with no problem. But give me Tequila and then run. Tequila has never made me happy, it always makes me do things I’d not ever do drinking something else. Hence I don’t drink Tequila. It only took me twice to find out that I needed to stay away from it. Call it what you will.
I’ve learned that if someone says something unkind about me, I must live so that no one will believe it.
I have a terrible problem with drinking, can you guys help me out? No, I don’t have a drinking problem, I have a problem with something that happens when I drink.
I can NOT get a hangover. Oh, I’ve tried. I’ve drank lots of stuff, lots of times, in lots of differing situations and volumes, with lots of results (i.e. passing out, normal sleep, hyperactivity, boredom, sadness, happiness, tiredness, vomiting [and how]) but nothing I have ever done or ever drank has ever given me a hangover. EVER.
Oh, wait, that’s not a problem. I just wanted to brag a bit. Thanks for your time.
–Tim
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I’d agree with Steve-O. Different beverages may do different things, but that’s not the alcohol, that’s the impurities. (The other 95% - 5% depending if it’s beer or Everclear.) Of course, those impurities are the flavour, etc, so you don’t want to be without them…
You could try boiling the alcohol out of tequilla and drink it with everclear shots (for the alcohol) and see if it has the same effects (waking up in Arkansas - no fair for those who already live there to claim this…) as tequilla with the alcohol in.
I’ve heard that tequilla is moderately hallucinogenic, though for all I know, it’s just an UL.
Homer, to get a hangover, drink a moderate ammount of alcohol, preferably enough to get pretty drunk. Then sleep in a hot room. Don’t drink any water before going to sleep.
But only hangover I ever got was after five beer over a night, but no other liquid. Otherwise, I had half a bottle of rye once and no problems, but I was drinking pop and water as well (not as mixes, just along with.)
btw, does anyone know if rye still gets ergot (sp?) in usual conditions, and if the LSD-type molecules still make it into rye the drink from rye the grain? Supposedly the stuff used to cause people to hallucinate.
Is that a fact? Well try this on for size…SCHNAPPS. This stuff was forged by lucifer himself. It always makes me ill, and i drink tequila like it was water. Last and final experience i had with the stuff (i really mean it this time! ) i drank 1/2 a bottle of sour apple to go with the tequila and the 8 or so Guiness draught i had. I felt sick for 2 1/2 days.
God WAS my co-pilot, but we crashed in the mountains and i had to eat him.
Somewhat true. Some drinks that are called tequila are actually a peyote drink. Peyote is definitely a hallucinogen. The two drinks taste very similar. I was in Mexico once, and bought a really cheap bottle of “tequila”. I drank a tad too much of it and ended up puking all night in a toilet in my hotel room. I really wish I could remember what hotel I stayed in, because they had fantastic service. While I was puking, they sent up this very well dressed (stereotypical Swiss Alps attire) dwarf to watch me puke. He was really well mannered, and kept asking if I was O.K. Damn fine hotel that was.
Don’t know if this helps clear things up but when I drank Budweiser in the states I woke up without a hangover. However, when I drink it over in the UK, I get a terrible headache. Assuming that the beer is the same, flavourings etc then it must be the alcohol content which gives me the pain(it’s 5% here and I believe that it’s 3.2% stateside) which then begs the question, why don’t I get a headache when I drink bud ice at 5%? Anything else I can help you guys clear up?
Back in my drinkin’days, I had an iron constitution and was a pleasant drunk except when I drank TEQUILA (sp). Whenever I drank that stuff, I would become violent and self- destructive( and sometimes incarcerated). That never happened when I drank whiskey, vodka, rum, etc…there’s somethin’ differnt in thar.
You might be mixing that up with mezcal (IIRC, mescaline is what makes peyote potent). Mezcal contains no mescaline at all.
Tequila is actually made from Agave plants (blue agave - Agave tequilana, which aren’t cactuses, to dispel that myth). The core of of these plants are roasted, then the sap is fermented, and distilled and this is where you get tequila. Tequila is technically a type of mezcal. The site listed below makes it clear NO cactus are used in tequila production (and that’s what peyote is). The ancestor of both drinks is pulque.
Homer - are you sure you know what a hangover feels like? If you get drunk one night and then you don’t feel completely normal the next morning, then most likely you do have a hangiver and you just don’t realize it.
I used to think that way too - when I was in college, I would ponder over not getting hangovers and then bitch about being dehydrated and headachy on mornings after I drank. One day with the help of a friend I put 2 and 2 together and now I get the most bitchin’ hangovers almost every time I drink. It may just be all in the perception.
All of this talk about mezcal and peyote made me remember what my ex-husband used to tell me. He said that getting drunk on tequila always made him an angry drunk because he had some Indian blood in him! (only 1/16 I think) He got really drunk on tequila one night and came over to my house… it took him 45 minutes to drive 2 blocks from the bar to my apartment). He finally got the door opened and stumbled in with his pants around his ankles. He had shit his pants and later he puked all over my floor!! When he woke up the next morning his left eye was black and blue and swollen shut and he couldn’t remember what happened.
Usually he just drank beer and got hammered after about a 12 pack. When he gets drunk on beer he babbles and tells me the same story 20 times in a row - he giggles a lot too. Then he would get pissed at me because I told him I didn’t want to hear his stupid story again so he’d yell and throw a fit and pass out.
I don’t think that different types of alcohol make you an angry drunk or a happy drunk. If your in a pissy mood when you start drinking, you’re gonna be an angry drunk. If your in a good mood and happy when you start drinking, you’re gonna be a happy drunk. Most of it is just mind over matter!
Well, i have some cherokee blood in me (more than 1/16, my great grandmother on my mother’s side was almost %100 i think) and tequila never makes me mad. In fact, it makes me happy! I love it, it’s my favoire drink. But then again i am a happy drunk.
This i think i agree with, though most always drinking makes me really happy if i am in a pissy mood. But, i guess that has to do with hanging out with friends while drinking and stuff. Anyways…
) i drank 1/2 a bottle of sour apple to go with the tequila and the 8 or so Guiness draught i had. I felt sick for 2 1/2 days.