A not-so-Modest Proposal for World Peace

History has shown that a large collection of small nations sharing a geographical region are much more prone to warfare than are a smaller number of nations sharing that region. It seems that each sovereign government, in its efforts to maintain power within a nation, extends that attempt outward and runs into the power struggles of the neighboring nations. Examples include the Balkan Wars of both the early and late 20th Cent., the numerous German-speaking principalities of the Middle Ages, the Celtic, Saxon and Nordic kingdoms of England prior to 1066, the Greek city-states of the 5th and 4th Cent. BCE.

There is no end to available illustrations of this situation and a clear conclusion may be drawn: Competing sovereign governments will almost always find a justification for war and, the more governments are competing, the more continuous war becomes. To end–or, at least, reduce the incidence of–war, steps must be taken for individual national governments to anneal themselves into a single, good government administering the entire region.

The gradual process of the bickering nations of Europe merging into the European Union has been tremendously encouraging and I applaud their good sense and this giant step toward the end of war in Europe. But what are the chances of, for instance, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and Burma amalgamating into a single nation, thus bringing peace to the region? Zero, I should say. Something must be done to help bring this about.

The United Nations was a good idea, back in the late '40s, but has shown itself, because of its structure and dependence on charity for operating funds, to be hopelessly ineffectual in accomplishing real gains. The UN does what it can and it has my total respect for what it has been able to accomplish in health, education and peacekeeping…but it clearly IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE in a position to enforce world peace.

Therefore, I do here propose that the United States of America begin now to take those steps which will bring it to the position of the “national” government of the entire world over the course of the next century or so.

Consider:

  1. The USA, as the last remaining superpower, is the one nation with both the stability of government and national resources to accomplish this goal.

  2. The USA, as a federal system of “sovereign” states, encourages local self-government for as many governmental functions as possible but with the national umbrella ensuring basic rights and freedom of choice. Thus, it could extend its sway without trampling on or attempting to submerge local cultures, languages, or customs–beyond those changes necessary to guarantee those basic rights for all humans.

  3. The USA, since the end of W.W. II, has acted as the world’s policeman, called in whenever a local situation has deteriorated into violence and major help is needed. Despite the verbal criticisms and hatred by a minority in many nations, the USA is, by and large, trusted and respected as having good intentions.

  4. The governmental and legal systems of the USA, though far from perfect, are better than most. The government is stable and subject to the rule of law; a military coup is totally unthinkable. Official corruption is far less prevalent than in most countries and is prosecuted when found. The even-handed legal system usually manages to preserve equity and to dispense a reasonable facsimile of justice.
    The Process:

Please understand that I am NOT advocating a military conquest of the world. Not at all. What I suggest is that, when the USA is called in by rival factions or by other nations in the region to bring peace to a troubled nation, it offer options to the people of that nation.

For instance, the nation of Somalia was in deep trouble about 10 years ago (it’s not much better off now) and the USA was asked to step in and police the situation so relief supplies could be distributed. At the time, the mission’s commanding officer stated that his orders were NOT to disarm the feuding warlords but merely to keep them from fighting openly when UN trucks were going by.

In other words, the USA kept an “arm’s length” attitude even when they were getting deeply involved. I think that this attitude was the fatal mistake in policy, NOT that of getting involved in the first place.

What the USA should have done in Somalia: When invited to help get the people fed, the USA should have moved in sufficient force to ensure peace, disarmed the warlords entirely, fought battles as necessary, and thereby have restored peace and a reasonable hope for the future to the people of Somalia. After peace had been in place and people were breathing freely for a while–perhaps a year or so–the USA should have then conducted a plebiscite in Somalia with the following options:

  1. The USA should leave entirely and let the Somalian people and government take up where they left off.
    or
  2. The USA should annex Somalia as a territory, with permanent peacekeeping and other governmental services in place during a waiting period of several years before Somalia becomes a state in union with the United States, with full rights, responsibilities, etc.
    or
  3. The USA should maintain the temporary status quo now in place and conduct another plebiscite a year or two in the future.

This plebiscite would be conducted and monitored by the UN or other third-party with a commitment to fairness in determining the true feeling of the people. My guess is that the people of Somalia would have opted for long-term peace through amalgamation with the USA and would be in a much better position today if this had been offered to them.

It is true that the American taxpayer would be asked to carry a heavier tax burden while a new territory is being assimilated…but it seems like a better idea than having to intervene once every few years in some unhappy region and starting fresh from zero every time. In Afghanistan? It would be a tough sell in the USA and in Afghanistan…but make sure the Afghan women vote in the plebiscite. :slight_smile:

After a few decades’ operation of this policy, the USA might be administering 4 or 5 territories worldwide and perhaps have a couple more states in the union. The rest of the world could see how much these (ex-)nations have benefited and, I think, other nations would start queueing up, requesting annexation. The final result would be clear from this point looking forward: world government (with a few holdouts: the EU and China and probably Quebec) and world peace.

One last comment: I hate governments; all governments–except for that individual self-government which resides (or should reside) inside each human being. In a conversation with Libertarians, they see me as a radical. I am NOT a chauvinistic supporter of “the American Way”; I am NOT hungry for conquests. But, evil as governments may be, I see the current violent whirlpool of competing governments as worse. First, let’s get world peace and THEN let’s talk about reducing the power, gradually, of the United States of Earth.

Ok, gang, let me have it. :slight_smile: And I especially would like to hear from non-US citizens.

Hmmm…have the United States take over the entire world.

  1. Some nations (like Somalia) may not wish to be peaceably annexed. That means you will have to annex them by force.

  2. Alexander the Great, Napolean, The British Empire, Hitler and Stalin were never able to conquer the entire world.

  3. There is very little benefit to Americans to annex every jerkwater country on the planet.

  4. Just because you declare a country to be a US colony does not mean that it will be peaceful. There are such things as civil wars and domestic terrorists.

  5. India, China, Russia and most of the Islamic countries may take issue with being annexed by the USA. The US would not be able to defeat all these countries in a war without inflicting horrific damage.

  6. Look how difficult it is getting the EU together. Now throw in countries with completely different cultures. Remeber that the 13 original American colonies were all basically British, not British, German, Chinese, Indian, Hungarian, Chechnean…

  7. Shitty countries will stay that way even if we annex them. Compare New York City to Appalachia.

Regarding the post od msmith537:

1) Some nations (like Somalia) may not wish to be peaceably annexed. That means you will have to annex them by force.

Then let them stay independent. In a hundred years, when they see the advantages accrued by annexees, maybe they’ll change their minds.

2) Alexander the Great, Napolean, The British Empire, Hitler and Stalin were never able to conquer the entire world.

They tried to take over the world against the wishes of the people they came across. That has nothing to do with my proposal. You skimmed it rather than read it, right? :slight_smile:
3) There is very little benefit to Americans to annex every jerkwater country on the planet.

Sure there is. We get to keep our tall buildings without fear of mass murder.

4) Just because you declare a country to be a US colony does not mean that it will be peaceful. There are such things as civil wars and domestic terrorists.

And we had a civil war in the US, too. But it was resolved and it is now unthinkable that such a thing could happen again. Picture the situation in a new territory: the majority of the population have voted to support the USA while an angry minority, without the supoort of the majority, try an armed insurrection. We have a police action; quickly resolved.

5) India, China, Russia and most of the Islamic countries may take issue with being annexed by the USA. The US would not be able to defeat all these countries in a war without inflicting horrific damage.

Read my response to # 2 above. Or, even better, read my original post.
6) Look how difficult it is getting the EU together. Now throw in countries with completely different cultures. Remeber that the 13 original American colonies were all basically British, not British, German, Chinese, Indian, Hungarian, Chechnean…

Yes, it’s a slow, careful process that will take decades. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t start it now.
7) Shitty countries will stay that way even if we annex them. Compare New York City to Appalachia.

I doubt it. “Shitty countries” are almost always that way because of inept government. Appalachia may not be as rich as the suburb where you live but it is far from shitty. Try visiting sometime instead of watching “Deliverance” again… :slight_smile:

What you propose is colonialism.

I see the label, Guinastasia. Does that make it bad? Would you care to elaborate?

And keep in mind that I’m proposing eventual full participation in the government of the USA.

Yes, and your point is…what, exactly? Colonialism is bad? Colonialism is good?

Satyagraha:

The free market is a far more potent peacekeeping force than military annexation. Our goals should be to “annex” nations economically, rather than politically or militarily in order to create peace.

In other words, we should establish worldwide free trade rather than worldwide interventionism–the latter of which is a patchwork solution. Nations that are mutually dependent in production and consumer capacities are as good as mutual territories–with real incentives to help each other, not political ones.

The few countries that war cannot compete with the regional stability of a world of mutally-dependent, prosperous nations.

I oppose any such complicated interventionist plans because underlying them is a lack of incentive for either the controlling government or the controllees to act properly with respect to each other (especially when the controllee is a despot or very poor state). Sure, there are national defense initiatives for us–in some instances–but once those needs are satiated, the territory is nothing but a burden. And I don’t think I need to remind anyone here that even the United States is capable of some incredible arrogance towards states it has no need for, politically.

What were the results of colonialism in the past? Imperialism? The British Empire? The Monroe Doctrine?

What happened in the past to these great empires-did they prevent war?

Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.

Or the angry minority flies some airliners into tall buildings again. We still have domestic terrorism here in the US (Timothy McVeigh, Unabomber, Puerto Rican nationalists, etc.). That’s the flaw in the plan, you still have a really angry minority who don’t want us there and see violence as the only option.

**The free market is a far more potent peacekeeping force than military annexation. Our goals should be to “annex” nations economically, rather than politically or militarily in order to create peace.
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Smoker4, I take your point very well indeed. I agree that my proposal assumes the economic integration of a territory following the political integration and that it is economics that, in the long run, will make a state’s people happy and peaceful.

However, many nations seem to be refusing economic integration in spite of the wealth they see around them; Afghanistan under the Taliban would be the leading example. So how do we “encourage” such nations to fit in with the world community?

That’s the point of my proposal: When a pig-headed government goes so far in rejecting economic incentives that a major episode of civil unrest takes place and peacekeeping forces are required from the international community, I suggest we take steps to make those economic incentives effective sooner.

And I don’t think I need to remind anyone here that even the United States is capable of some incredible arrogance towards states it has no need for, politically.

True enough…in the past. Slavery, the conquest of the Native Americans, treatment of JApanese-Americans during WW II…but those unhappy events are in the past and we now find ourselves becoming more of a true multiethnic system with recognition of the value of diversity and rights respected for all. Let’s spread the good news. :slight_smile:

And your response seems to imply that the wealthier parts of the USA, California and New York perhaps, would be better off divesting themselves of someplace like Mississippi. Is that reasonable? Or do we feel a national responsibility to Mississippi?

**What were the results of colonialism in the past? Imperialism? The British Empire? The Monroe Doctrine?

What happened in the past to these great empires-did they prevent war?

Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.**

Guinastasia, Britain never admitted Indian delegates to the British parliament. If they had, the British Empire might still be intact and chock full of happy peaceful local states.

I’m not advocating Americans, as currently defined, running the world. I’m advocating all peoples in the world running a representative world government, descended from the current major government of the North American continent.

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Originally posted by Satyagraha
Picture the situation in a new territory: the majority of the population have voted to support the USA while an angry minority, without the supoort of the majority, try an armed insurrection. We have a police action; quickly resolved.

Or the angry minority flies some airliners into tall buildings again. We still have domestic terrorism here in the US (Timothy McVeigh, Unabomber, Puerto Rican nationalists, etc.). That’s the flaw in the plan, you still have a really angry minority who don’t want us there and see violence as the only option.**

Yes, we’ll still have madmen like McVeigh…but Mcveigh acted almost alone and was able to accomplish violence on a scale small compared to 9-11. Bin Laden’s group was able to accomplish what they did because he had a secure base and the acquiescence of a national government willing to approve his actions. I propose we take steps to put an end to that.

My question to you is, who does the “inviting”? We invited ourselves into Somalia.

What you are proposing in essence is that the United States invite the rest of the world to become additional states. Presumably we’d have to be willing to amend the Constitution to accommodate “local” cultural traditions like stoning people to death, OR we’d have to impose an American legal and police system there. I’m not interested int the first option, and I’m not sure we could do the second.

But, as far as globe conquering schemes go, the idea of publishing a set of laws and principle and inviting the rest of the world to sign up (kind of like choosing an ISP) is the most reasonable approach I’ve heard. I say go for it, but toss the idea of taking over militarily for a while to establish… whatever priorities you want most.

Even Puerto Rico hasn’t signed onto the statehood bandwagon, and repeated votes over its legal status hasn’t eliminated political violence (though I’ll admit it has probably reduced it).

Do you know a single country that wants to become our 51st State?

I got the jist of it…

Moving a sufficient force into another country without permission = invasion

When you invade another country, disarm their population by force and fight battles against those who resist, that is called military conquest.

Timothy Mcvey was an American
The Colombine twins were Americans

What makes you think Osama Bin Ladins gang would quit the terrorist game if they were suddenly declared to be Americans? Much of the terrorism is due to what is percieved to be American imperialism. I hardly think that actual imperialism would reduce that threat.

Oh, its that easy. And how many Americans died in our civil war? That was only 200 years ago. Remember the civil unrest in the 60s? How about the LA riots in the 90s? A Soviet civil war was just as unthinkable in the early 80s.

Um, I didn’t specify which location was the “shitty” one. Try not to jump to conclussions. And the point remains the same, colonizing Somalisa will not automatically turn Mogadishu into the “Seatle of Africa”.

yojimboguy, as I recall it that the UN requested the US to step in and take action, following a majority vote of the UN including the East African nations, because UN peacekeepers and relief workers were unable to cope with the situation. But I’m speaking here off the top of my head and don’t have time to look it up as I’m at work and need to actually perform some work now and then… :slight_smile:

And the reason that Peurto Rico has voted consistently to maintain their ‘in-between’ status is that they like being protected by the U.S. government but would lose significant tax advantages if they became a full-fledged state. Let’s end that while we’re at it, too. =0)
The proposal to request annexation comes up from time to time in the Australian legislature and, I believe, a few other places as well. It is defeated, not because it wouldn’t give advantages to the citizens thereof, but because the legislators voting on it the idea, for the most, are afraid of losing their cushy jobs to someone else who might get the cushy job under a new system.
msmith537, do you agree with our current “invasion” of Afghanistan? If so, that’s the kind of situation I’m suggesting as being a call for the USA to do something. I’m just also suggesting taking steps to ensure that we don’t have to worry about Afghanistan in that way again.

The premise of your idea appears to be that US laws, the US economic system, the US system of government and the US way of life are superior to anywhere else in the world and that other countries would surely prefer to live under the US version of these systems rather than under their own versions.

I live in the UK and for a whole stack of reasons I prefer UK laws, the UK economic system, the UK system of government and the UK way of life to that of the US.

Its nothing personal. Im sure your system works well for you guys but I don’t want us to be a part of the US.

Just some quick examples so you get the idea of what Im talking about:

US law - the senior judges are all political appointees meaning you have a biased Supreme Court. Also you can keep your gun laws, your legal drinking age, your gambling laws, your id cards

US economic system - runaway capitalism. Everything has a price. This means you get wall-to-wall advertising all around you, only 2 weeks(?) holiday a year and, when you are in work, you have to work really hard to keep your job. This all leads to a feeling that you live to work rather than work to live

US system of government - your civil service are political appointees meaning they are not neutral. You do not have a separation of the powers of the executive, the legislature and the judiciary. Also you can keep your election system that allows Jeb Bush to oversee the election of his brother to the White House (aided by his little chum Katherine Harris). Also you can keep your pledges of allegiance and all that patriotic “God bless America” bs

US way of life - the automobile is not a God, the world is a delicate interconnected ecosystem. You do not have a guaranteed constitutional right to destroy this ecosystem for the world by your insatiable appetite for oil. Once the oil runs out (in about 200/300 years) America’s power may start to wane somewhat.

All in all, thanks for the offer, but I think we’re quite happy as we are.

Dear Lord. Oh my goodness.

Are you even remotely serious? I think you would find very rapidly that citizens of other countries do not want to be states of the US. And that if the US began annexing countries in conflict, then other countries like the UK or Australia would view that with great alarm. I don’t think that the US legal structure or the US way of life is the ideal. I like the legal structure of the countries I’ve chosen to live in.

It would be a form of imperialism and colonialism for the US to take over the world. Invited or uninvited it still remains an imposition of US values and culture on other countries.

Wellllll, it worked for Terminus in the Foundation Trilogy. So there.

For anyone interested in exploration of a similar theme, read Thomas Friedman’s “The Lexus and the Olive Tree.”

His take on making a peaceful whole world society is free market capitalism. The more tied you are to a country economically, the less likely you are to go to war with it.

“Money makes the world go around, the world go around, the world go around…”

I agree completely with Primaflora - there is no way (at ttthis point in time) you could convince tha nations of the World that they should all become one. Starting with this nation.

Many Americans I know would not want to be part of the same country with people from Iran - this implies that they would vote in our elections, and I do not want the representation they would vote for. I’m sure many in Iran feel the same way about the U.S. Same for China and Peru. Same for Spain.

I do not think this place has eveloved to a point where all people can agree on enough issues to have one government. The best we can hope for is peaceful co-existance.

I’d like to take the example of Sweden and Mexico. Different Governments, different cultures, but no wars between them recently. That’s the way I think the world should be. Work toward creating incentives for nations to get along, but one government is premature.

Y’know, there’s a difference between global government and global governence.

There is no need for a global government. What we need are peaceful ways for nations to resolve disputes between them. And these ways have been multiplying like weeds for the last 40 years or so…mutual defense pacts like NATO, free trade pacts, rules for global trade, rules for international law, transnational environmental agreements.

And the beauty is that these agreements are freely entered into, because all the parties recognize the benefits of them. There’s no need to annex and conquer the rest of the world, there’s no need to subsume all regions of the world into one nation-state.

Besides, the premise that if only the entire world was subsumed into one nation-state we would have peace is ludicrous. We may indeed someday have a world state, and world peace. But that world state will be the result of world peace, not the cause. And there will always be people and cultures that will not reconcile themselves to the world state. Declaring Afghanistan the 51st state and implementing US law there isn’t going to stop the civil war there.

Hell, look at what happened back before the Civil War, when one William Walker invaded Nicaragua, took over and declared it a state. He ended up getting himself killed.