A swindle of global proportions, starring IBD, George Will, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck

Well, the detailed swindle is long to tell, but you can get the summary by watching this video showing the stinky liars in action:

Even if there could be doubts with some of the global warming research, lying to discredit the most up to date science is outside any agreed standards of decency.
Like the maker of the video mentions, we have to shine a light on those liars and keep telling the truth.

Now, for the ones that want to read how far outfits like FOX are willing to go to distort science:

http://www.desmogblog.com/about-climate-cover

Anatomy of a lie: How Marc Morano and Lorne Gunter spun Mojib Latif’s remarks out of control.

Is this supposed to be news, opinion or entertainment? Distorting information and lying to make people to continue giving support to politicians that will continue with the distortions and the lies?

Investors’ Business Daily, the same rag that injected racism into the health care discussion and has been demonstrated to be wrong in other occasions (A fool and his money are soon parted they say, and it is clear that many fans of IBD are) passed the bit to “I’ll never learn to dismiss right wing sources that lie to me” George Will.

And from there it is passed to FOX news and liars like Hannity and Beck.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200909240021

Well, not all know, but it is becoming silly to say that those guys distorting the science are just ignorant after all this time and when corrections are available.

Well, that’s a mighty long post to get to the punch line, but all I can say is, anyone who would ever take the word of Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity as accurate reporting on a scientific subject, without doing some fact checking, is a first-rank fool.

Well, I warned you. :slight_smile:
The sad thing is that there are dopers that have supported all of those guys in recent discussions.

As far as I can tell, George Will can be added to that list. And, while I don’t know much about the IBD, any magazine that allows the assertion that Stephen Hawking wouldn’t be alive if he grew up in the UK into print obviously has serious issues with their fact-checking.

I’m not seeing the problem – and I watched the entire video.

He clearly said the things Beck/Hannity/that English guy said he did.

Just because your so-called “scientist” has one interpretation doesn’t mean it’s the correct one.

And wait a second … who said your guy was a “scientist”? Where are his degrees from? Who paid for them? Does he have millions of fans watching him? Listening to him? Reading his books? I didn’t think so.

Like I said, the news commentator’s analysis was accurate. Sure, they may have paraphrased a little, and sure the words they did quote may not have been in quite the same order when first spoken by Dr. Chicken Little, but that’s just journalistic license.

I’m going to bump this one over the fence from The BBQ Pit to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.

Gfactor
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Where? Where did he said that “**he **was wrong?” like beck said?

That is only part of the point, this is to demonstrate FOX and others are stinky liars.

So you did skip the rest huh? It is the climate researcher who you have a beef, not the messengers telling you that FOX and others are distorting what the climate researcher said.

No.

Bullshit. You know why they use that peculiar “journalistic license” to mislead their viewers and readers.

I have to say that I’m confused, to me people who lie and claim that they are “just reporting” is not a mundane thing, it is a pitiable thing.

And a bit wooshable too. :smiley:

Ah, well, sorry about that. In any case the BS line was made when I thought I was still in the pit.

I guess I should had put down that in the near future the denial machine is going to kick into high gear, the BS will come fast and furious regarding the climate bills in the American congress.

It’s a lie by omission. They omit that the guy still thinks that temperatures are rising, which is crucial to understanding his point.
The first guy was okay, in that he pointed out that it was merely his opinion that global warming was falling apart as new data was added. But the others, while still using some of the guys words, made it sound like the scientist had a completely different conclusion: that global warming had stopped.

Also, word of advice: Don’t impugn a guy’s credentials just because you don’t know them. You have the ability to look them up just as much as we do, and if one of us looks it up and finds that you are wrong, it appears that you wanted another argument, couldn’t find one, and, thus made up one based on your lack of knowledge.

And since when does having fans have anything to do with being a scientist?

ETA: I do not understand what has been whooshed. If the guy I’m responding to isn’t serious, my responses still apply to inevitable person who will be.

Well, it seems **Rhythmdvl **was trying to be sarcastic. But deniers are so out there that whooshing attempts regarding this subject are easy (hard?) to do.

Rhythmdvl, that was just TOO close to a genuine climate-denier argument! You had bluster, scare quotes, an insult, and a change of subject. A very low-flying whoosh- parted my hair.

My apologies for this! I wasn’t trying to Gotcha Ya-whoosh anyone, I really thought I was going over the top enough (i.e., quoted words out of order) such that it was obvious I was mocking the average Beckhead.

FTR, I’ve been academically and professionally involved in CC policy issues since the late nineties. From running an exhibit in Smithsonian Nat Hist to obscure policy briefs, I’ve faced the worst the API et al can muster, so perhaps my sensitivities have been a bit numbed.

How exactly do you pronounce Mojib?

The default for pronouncing foreign words in roman characters is that:

o - Rhymes with bow
i - Rhymes with flee
u - Rhymes with you
a - Rhymes with paw
e - Rhymes with bay

He’s Pakistani, so it would be moh-jeeb.

ETA: Which fits in perfectly with **Sage Rat’s **charty thing.